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Balkanized America
Topic Started: May 19 2009, 07:57 AM (4,044 Views)
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Nice. That's me. Rebel all the way. *hoists black flag, loses pants and guzzles beer*

In all seriousness, I hope I don't bother anyone. I rarely post but I do enjoy reading the goings on around here and like the debates you folks get into. Hope I don't step on any toes or anything as that's not my intention at all. Dax once asked me to stick around for color commentary and I've done so. If it's a problem I trust either he or Sel will swoop in and slap me into line.
If it's a problem with me lurking and rarely posting without claiming, please, speak to the admin for your own sake. I need to be dealt with.
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Hahaha, neat! Just save some for me, I'm needing something to take the edge off. :D

No, it shouldn't be a problem... Though I'm fairly relaxed, so whatever... You do provide a lot of something, whether that something is good or bad - who cares - at least you give a certain feeling of other worldly debauchery I think this board has been missing.
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I watched them strap him into the seat and shut the door. He might of looked a bit nervous about it but that was about all. I really believe that he knew he was going to be in hell in fifteen minutes. I believe that. And I've thought about that a lot. He was not hard to talk to. Called me Sheriff. But I didn't know what to say to him. What do you say to a man that by his own admission he has no soul? Why would you say anything? I've thought about it a good deal.
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,19 May 2009 17.01.04] Oh yeah? I can take it all a step further than you guys. A balkanised earth:

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd188/N...sionsAlgrey.gif

Not actually mine, but omg!

Holy...

Now I can finnally create Greater Mongolia...or the Altaic federation.
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,19 May 2009 23.09.52] Oklahoma still exists? I thought it would have gotten sucked into a black hole by now... :P

There is one bright star in that deep black hole. :wub:
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Nice. That's me. Rebel all the way. *hoists black flag, loses pants and guzzles beer*

In all seriousness, I hope I don't bother anyone. I rarely post but I do enjoy reading the goings on around here and like the debates you folks get into. Hope I don't step on any toes or anything as that's not my intention at all. Dax once asked me to stick around for color commentary and I've done so. If it's a problem I trust either he or Sel will swoop in and slap me into line.

It's alright. No complaints from me as long as you don't stir up trouble.
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,19 May 2009 23.09.52] Oklahoma still exists? I thought it would have gotten sucked into a black hole by now... :P

There is one bright star in that deep black hole. :wub:

LOL are you talking about...
I'm amused easily by childish things.
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,19 May 2009 23.09.52] Oklahoma still exists? I thought it would have gotten sucked into a black hole by now... :P

There is one bright star in that deep black hole. :wub:

LOL are you talking about...

Yes, sir.
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Because I DO WHATEVER I BLOODY WELL WANT AND DAMN THE CONSEQUENCES.

No. It's because this an intelligent community that I approve of and enjoy participating in. I don't really have time to devote to a major nation, so I refrained from claiming one. I also have no interest in roleplaying internal dissent in some backwater thirdworld nation that wouldn't require regular posting so, again, I refrained from claiming one.

I lurk and read alot of the roleplaying here and, occasionally, I leap in and attack a random argument like Maryland being pro Dixie or Yankee, 'Anarchism could work!!1!', or 'what's the worst song EVAR?!"

If it's a problem with me lurking and rarely posting without claiming, please, speak to the admin for your own sake. I need to be dealt with.

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*hoists black flag, loses pants and guzzles beer*

Your subconsciousness agrees with me.

It's a pity that debate died when I got busy *curses at life*

Needless to say, more of your timely interjections into the Mess Hall would be a good thing.

YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO.
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,19 May 2009 14.51.57] The first map burns my eyes! You violate so many cartographical rules it's horrible!!! There is no reasoning, you just drew a bunch of long lines! AHHHHHHHHHHH!

Is this considered a flame? And I have no cartographical experiance there, Comrade Trotsky.

I actually wanted to use that map for a possible RP idea I had of total chaos after 1862, the nation splitting more, and then these nations conglomorating from the mess of smaller nations. But I can't discuss this openly...

Dont consider it a flame, you know how fashion designers or people like that sometimes throw a fit when they see an article of clothing that is "horrendous" to them? Well Phil is like that just with maps, there may not be anything wrong with it, but he will find it "horrendous" :)

I once participated in an RP where the Union had broken up and each state was its own nation. It was really entertaining, considering that I was New Jersey and was able to wrest New York City from the player who RPed New York, after I convinced him to go to war with Conneticut. It was a brilliant move, however the RP died just like most others do.

As an amateur cartograpger and vexillologist, I'm the same way as Phil.

As a Texan, I'm disgusted by the horrendous shape you've made us, as well as the inclusion of parts of the Great Plains, Colorado, and Arizona (New Mexico and Louisiana are cool, though). The only possible offense you could have made further would be including Oklahoma! I assure you, Texas would never allow itself to be formally associated with those areas.

Also, Eyyg, I remember that. I was Michigan that time around, I believe.
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,23 May 2009 09.38.00] As an amateur cartograpger and vexillologist

I consider myself to be the same since I have drawn up a number of flags and maps. I used to do it more in the past and not so much now.

Hitler was a vexillologist and designed the Nazi flag himself.
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Lol. Hitler. Hehe. I mean no...........bad dude.

I dont mind making flags in my head, but putting them down always FAILS.
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I have designed at least three flags that I have used. I designed another one, but haven't used it. I'm sure I have some other ones here and there as well, but I can probably upload 3 right now.
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,19 May 2009 09.42.17] I actually made a similar map about a month ago and had a whole story behind it and everything. I'm sorta obsessed about what would happen if an American Civil War broke out today. For now though, i'll just give out the nations and stuff...

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Failed Nations:

Republic of Deseret (Utah, Northern Arizona, Southern Idaho) = Annexed by the New American Democratic Republic (NADR) following a fierce 'Vietnam-style' resistance

The Navaho Nation (Navaho and Hopi Indian Reservation, parts of Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado) = Supported by California, but attacked by the Texan Confederation. Voted to be integrated into Republic of California a year later.

Republic of Louisiana = Although supporters of the United States of America, with nowhere to go and surrounded by two hostile nations, Louisiana surrendered to Texas merely two months after its creation

Democratic Republic of Florida = Consisting of Florida without the 'panhandle', the Florida National Guard fought too poorly (and governed too poorly) to defend itself against the Confederate States of America. They rejoined the USA 5 months later.

To be honest, I think that the upper peninsula of Michigan wouldn't stay with the lower.
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The UP would join the Midwestern Coalition. Along with most of Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, and a lot of the rest of Michigan, most likely.
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UP would take the opportunity to ditch the mainland and declare independence.
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Those eastern most counties in West Virginia are pretty much Virginia-lite. Particularly Berkley.
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If I remember my 4th grade Michigan history, I don't think very many people lived in the UP in the 1860s (heck, not that many live there now).
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Whoever made the "Maryland is too Liberal" comment needs to go jump into a book.

The Confederacy was a Liberal nation.

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,23 May 2009 22.45.54] Michiganders unite!

Haha, yes!

State pride in Michigan is funny :lol:
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I still don't think California would do anything but dissolve if it got half the chance.
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I watched them strap him into the seat and shut the door. He might of looked a bit nervous about it but that was about all. I really believe that he knew he was going to be in hell in fifteen minutes. I believe that. And I've thought about that a lot. He was not hard to talk to. Called me Sheriff. But I didn't know what to say to him. What do you say to a man that by his own admission he has no soul? Why would you say anything? I've thought about it a good deal.
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Capital:Sacramento, CA
Lone Star Confederacy
Capital:Austin, TX
Midwest Combine or Midwest Republic
Capital:Kansas City, MO
United States of America
Capital:New York City, NY
Confederate States of America
Capital:Washington, DC

Story behind Alaska and Hawaii - Occupied by International UN Forces (Would make the most sense, rather than having Regional Powers occupy them).

Mock-up Background:

Actually, I'm going to work on this in a Text document.

Now I'm intrigued to actually make something out of all this. >.>
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Sacramento? lol, that place would never be fit for a good state capital, much less a country's capital.

Jeez, don't you guys understand... California is a failure. :P
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I watched them strap him into the seat and shut the door. He might of looked a bit nervous about it but that was about all. I really believe that he knew he was going to be in hell in fifteen minutes. I believe that. And I've thought about that a lot. He was not hard to talk to. Called me Sheriff. But I didn't know what to say to him. What do you say to a man that by his own admission he has no soul? Why would you say anything? I've thought about it a good deal.
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Jeez, don't you understand.. all this implies the entire Country is a failure. (Which, really, it is.)

(:

It's also a WIP.

So don't make me grab a whip.

Because I'll beat you.

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EDIT: Also, I'm not 100% on any of the Capitals I chose.

Honestly, I want to be bigoted and chose Omaha for the Midwest. >.> Actually, I almost want to chose multiple Capitals for each Country - IE Federal, Judicial, Legislative like very few countries do. (Or maybe it was just the one I read about before). Honestly, I'd see this happening after Obama's Economic policies add onto the Failure of Bush's Economic policies - Supplemented with pure speculation and bad choices made by the Civilian-level of the Market. Not only that, but a lot of pressure from the outside world for Economic aid as certain lackeys start turning for the worst Economically speaking as well.

That, or I could just nuke the whole damned place. Would make choosing Capitals that much easier. :3
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Capital:Kansas City, MO
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Capital:New York City, NY
Confederate States of America
Capital:Washington, DC

Story behind Alaska and Hawaii - Occupied by International UN Forces (Would make the most sense, rather than having Regional Powers occupy them).

Mock-up Background:

Actually, I'm going to work on this in a Text document.

Now I'm intrigued to actually make something out of all this. >.>

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Because it pisses you off.

Also, it doesn't necessarily need to follow how the original Confederacy formed and broke off from the rest of the Union. There are drastically different reasons to this break up, seeing as the last one for the most part was States Rights' and Slavery.
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Why does everyone keep fucking Texas up by adding other states to us!?!
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Link: http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7200/balkanizedna.png (It's too big to post)

Key:
Dark Green - Cascade Federation - Capitol: Vancouver
Dark Blue - Republic of California - Capitol: San Francisco
Gold - United States of Central America - Capitol: Denver
Dark Red - Texo-Mexican Empire - Capitol: Ciudad de Mexico
Bright Green - Canada - Capitol: Ottawa
Bright Blue - Republique Quebecois - Capitol: Ville de Quebec
Blue - USA - Capitol: Washington, DC
Red - CSA - Capitol: Montgomery
Orange - Republic of Cuba - Capitol: Havana
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Black - Unlivable Wasteland - Capitols: Salt Lake City, New Orleans
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California again? :P
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I watched them strap him into the seat and shut the door. He might of looked a bit nervous about it but that was about all. I really believe that he knew he was going to be in hell in fifteen minutes. I believe that. And I've thought about that a lot. He was not hard to talk to. Called me Sheriff. But I didn't know what to say to him. What do you say to a man that by his own admission he has no soul? Why would you say anything? I've thought about it a good deal.
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As someone who lived there for 7 years, you might say I picked up a bit of Californian Nationalism. ;)
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Blue - United States of America - Washington DC
Red - Confederate States of America - Richomond, Virginia
Yellow - Midwestern Alliance - Jefferson City, Missouri
Cyan - The Texan Republic - Austin, Texas
Green - Northern States - Olympia, Washington
Brown - Southern Federation - Phoenix, Arizona
Redish Brown - The Californian Republic - Sacramento, California
Dark Blue - The State of Alaska - Juneau, Alaska
Pink - Nation of Hawaii - Honolulu, Hawaii

I was bored so I made one.
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Next person that posts a map of Texas with any other state added into it is going to get a map of a Polish-Armenican Commonwealth in their face.

(A true cartographer would be frightened.)
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Oh, oh oh! Look at that, there are two blue dots in Oklahoma! :D
No, Bugs, not you, you filthy Republican. :P
I'm amused easily by childish things.
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,24 May 2009 23.00.33] As someone who lived there for 7 years, you might say I picked up a bit of Californian Nationalism. ;)

As someone whose lived here for 17 years, you might say I picked up a bit of Californian realism. ;)

No really, CA is fail. :P
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I watched them strap him into the seat and shut the door. He might of looked a bit nervous about it but that was about all. I really believe that he knew he was going to be in hell in fifteen minutes. I believe that. And I've thought about that a lot. He was not hard to talk to. Called me Sheriff. But I didn't know what to say to him. What do you say to a man that by his own admission he has no soul? Why would you say anything? I've thought about it a good deal.
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You realize, Moorington, that all of this is highly out of context/sort of just a goof around.

Also, California would hold a lot of influence over that sort of scenario - Though I do know how shitty the State's major cities really are.. I once lived there. :3

Also, my post was a damn work in progress - Sort of a fun idea I suppose. Anyway, I'd say that realistically the Capital could be anywhere between the three -

Sacramento, Denver, and Seattle - It's just the thing is.. choosing a Capital for these sort of regions would be difficult.. I'd imagine a sort of Multi-Capital system would probably work for places like the little 'California' part.

Anyway, I changed my map slightly because I do believe Texas is bad ass as well.

"California" Inherited New Mexico, and the Confederacy inherited Oklahoma/Louisiana/Arkansas (Though I was tempted to color it and Oklahoma Yeller).

So, yay - I take criticismisms and applies them.
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Can people stop failing at these maps?
Idaho would not live with Oregon and Washington.

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Idaho is our bitch. It'd do what we say, or we'd kick the living shit out of it.

There's only like 10 people there, plus a whole ton of potatoes.
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It has like the highest neo-nazi percentage...
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