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Swine Flu?
Topic Started: Apr 26 2009, 11:11 AM (1,686 Views)
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,29 Apr 2009 17.49.51] There is a Mexican email circulating that supposedly:

Obama and Calderon had 2 closed door meetings during the G20 on the 16th and 17th. When Calderon returned to Mexico City he held several closed door meetings with the Health Czar and other health officials. Then on the 23rd news broke.

So Obama is the anti christ? I knew it! :P
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,28 Apr 2009 23.13.26] You aren't an expert either. So, You might as well shut your mouth and let me just ramble. I do not know exactly as my family friends did not discuss them but the Mexican Media has. Also, What US deaths? The Californian ones because those have been ruled out.

I am following the experts. You are following your own denial.

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The media is making this seem like the end of the world. Guess who is going to die if anyone' from this? The very young, and the old.
No they aren't. They are telling it as it is. Also, a lot of these flus strike healthy people at strangely high rates.

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"Egypt, for its part, began a mass slaughter of all 300,000 pigs in the country in an effort to fight swine flu - although no cases have been reported in the country."
That is stupid. Pigs have nothing to do with it directly.

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It might not be a solely health-related reaction. Bear in mind that Egypt's population is Muslim, and that pretty much only Egypt's Christians and Jews would raise pigs in the first place.
This is the most absurd rationalization I've ever heard. Not to mention the ignorance of the well-known fact that Jews do not eat pork. Or maybe you are unaware that pork comes from pigs.

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That's what made the Spanish Influenza and H5N1 so deadly.
Yeah this too. Mexican flu is not racist at all.

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Some poeple are freaking out because of someone died in the U.S, but it was first off...a 26 month old and second off, an illegal immgrint who contracted it in Mexico and came to the States looking for help so really, no American has died yet unless someone did while I was at school.
He's not illegal. He was visiting.


And what do you know: the first death. Many more are on the way in the next few days.
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Mortality rate is still low. And I still am not going to go around wearing a mask or anything.

It's not even out a week yet. In a month it will be much higher.
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Texas has shut down all athletic competitions until May 11th (at which date, they may keep them down for longer) and all schools are mandated to have hand & surface sanitzers in every class room. So far, 2 schools have completely shut down until May 11th, but I think they had suspected cases.
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Good thing I only have 4 days left of class.
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Supposedly San Diego State University will be shutting down as 2 students have confirmed(?) cases.
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,29 Apr 2009 21.35.09]
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Mortality rate is still low. And I still am not going to go around wearing a mask or anything.

It's not even out a week yet. In a month it will be much higher.

Exactly.
Symptoms do not show up immediately. In a week or two tens of thousands could be infected.
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They could.

And i'm still not worried about it.

Seriously. From the people i've talked to who work in hospitals and such, people are being god damned retards about it. Showing up screaming over shit when they don't even have symptoms.
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OMG! Its in Utah! My paper had Swine Flu in Utah as the headline! We All GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AGH ITS IN ALBERTA OMG I AM GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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,30 Apr 2009 03.45.20] They could.

And i'm still not worried about it.

Seriously. From the people i've talked to who work in hospitals and such, people are being god damned retards about it. Showing up screaming over shit when they don't even have symptoms.

Well I'm not going around screaming, but I'm not going to pretend like I'm immune to it.
Considering the what if's, discussing the what's happening now, isn't really the same as running around panicking.
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I heard the Ft Worth school district is down and out, I wonder if Dallas is next.
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I'm not personally worried. I'm statistically worried that a million people might die.
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,30 Apr 2009 15.35.25] I'm not personally worried. I'm statistically worried that a million people might die.

The Spanish Flu killed >20 million people. If this turns into a genuine pandemic, it'll kill >100 million. And it'll be the poor countries that get hurt the most.
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,30 Apr 2009 15.35.25] I'm not personally worried. I'm statistically worried that a million people might die.

The Spanish Flu killed >20 million people. If this turns into a genuine pandemic, it'll kill >100 million. And it'll be the poor countries that get hurt the most.

Well...only if it spreads to those countries. If you note, there aren't really any reported cases in eastern Europe (unless this has changed), Africa, or really Asia. There is a...alleged case I think in Israel, but that's about it. And of course Australia and New Zealand have it.

Even then, the WHO hasn't really thought to bump up to phase 6, which is an interesting requirement (2 countries in 2 separate WHO regions, as opposed to the Phase 5, which is 2 countries in one region).

Plus, I would wager that some of our more "civilized" nations will want to start restricting travel. I would hope they have the common sense to include Africa or Asia or something...
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Did you know that more people died in the Bird Flu scare in Asia last year? In Indonesia alone numbers are in the 250+++.

WHO didnt even give a blink when there's blatent human to human transmission in Indonesia.

This WHO paranoia is simply because the virus is heading it's way to Geneva.

=====This aside, should there be an increase in non-imported cases, then we should all start preparing.
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Who here read World War Z? For those that did, remember the Japanese kid on the internet who heard about outbreaks from other users before they went silent.

I feel like him. A girl down the street from me caught swine flu.

I'm getting a bad feeling about things.
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So am I. Its THE BIG ONE!
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My home, North Carolina, is never effected by these disease scares. But there are two unconfirmed swine flu cases here.
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A high school and marine base around here have been closed; can't wait till my high school gets the axe!
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I got the best response to this -

Who cares.
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DP!

Oh, and Mexico's top Epid..something ologist is actually claiming that the WHO is blowing smoke out of it's ass for a negligent response they took to what is being called "atypical pneumonia". Also, Mexican Health Records/tracking/et ceterfuckinguh are showing that little under half of these cases that have been broadcast like wild fire are actually Type A Influenza.

Oh well. I'm just riding on the whole WHO(UN)/US Government taking all this as a chance to distract the world from the stupid failures of both entities.

Then again - I also do hope this will be a Pandemic that will wipe out a very very VERY large chunk of humanity.
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,01 May 2009 00.49.26] Then again - I also do hope this will be a Pandemic that will wipe out a very very VERY large chunk of humanity.

Including yourself! B)
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WHO turned this one to Phase 5. Damn it, if it become Phase 6, it's DOOMSDAY!!!! AHHHH!!!! :P :P This could be the 2012 doomsday event that by December 2012 we're all extinct and dead?? :P Hope not true!!
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Almost at pandemic level.
I think the reason they raised their alert level is due to how easily this is transmitted. They have already said they cant contain it now, imagine if it becomes a full blown pandemic!
Precautionary measures?
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,30 Apr 2009 19.18.36] Well...only if it spreads to those countries. If you note, there aren't really any reported cases in eastern Europe (unless this has changed), Africa, or really Asia. There is a...alleged case I think in Israel, but that's about it. And of course Australia and New Zealand have it.

Even then, the WHO hasn't really thought to bump up to phase 6, which is an interesting requirement (2 countries in 2 separate WHO regions, as opposed to the Phase 5, which is 2 countries in one region).

Plus, I would wager that some of our more "civilized" nations will want to start restricting travel. I would hope they have the common sense to include Africa or Asia or something...

Aren't any confirmed cases here in Australia yet. Border is on the verge of being shutdown - all airports have thermal scanners set up and mandatory detention for any foreigner suspected of having the flu. Australians coming back from the Americas detected with the flu are being held in their homes until results from their test come back.
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The hongkong case is another import case. *sigh* When's anyone going to close air travel from mexico?

Oh wait! Anyone travelling from mexico to Singapore now needs a visa! LOL. That's probably like 10.
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Why would Mexicans go to Singapore or vice versa?
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,01 May 2009 21.03.48] Why would Mexicans go to Singapore or vice versa?

To sell drugs.
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,01 May 2009 21.03.48] Why would Mexicans go to Singapore or vice versa?

To sell drugs.

Death penalty
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,01 May 2009 21.03.48] Why would Mexicans go to Singapore or vice versa?

To sell drugs.

Death penalty

To smuggle chewing gum :lol:
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I am pissed at this Swine Flu, H1N1 A bull shit. People are overreacting and have succesfully ruined my year, and some of the other peoples end of the year trips.

For my 8th grade end of the year trip, we were going to 6 Flags Great America which is a abslutley massive Amusement Park in Chicago. OUr whole class goes down there for the day and has free passes for everything, then we drive back to Milwauke, stay the night in a hotel and the next morning we go the Zoo and Discovery Museum eff around in Milwaukee, but guess what. The Dumb ass School Board and Administration canceled it becuase of the Flu. FUCK

And the High school I am going to feeding into canceled all long field trips including all foriegn exchange programmes and all trips to places like Spain, Germany and Coasta Rica, most of the people who were planning on going on these were seniors and now will possibly never get the opprotunity again.

They made such a big deal out of this and yesterday, front page of Yahoo. 'Swine Flu may not be as bad as predicted' God dammit, the media made us all panic for no reason, most of the poeple panicking were out of sheer ignrorance about the disease, and now those dumb assess ruined my end of the year and the High School for something that is not going to be bad at all :angry:
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Now everyone's getting complacent. It's too early to say anything other than be careful. And even if it subsides, it could be back with a vengeance in a few months.

Would you rather be able to go on that trip and come home to your family in the hospital because there was no preparation?
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No I woldnt, but I am fairly certain that it will not be that bad. i am not saying it cant be bad or it wont, I am just highly doubting it.
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"OMG, I can't go on my 8th grade trip now, cuz of the swine flu!"... would you prefer to go and come back with the swine flu?

They canceled my Senior Trip, my Athletic season, and all after-school activities, which is a bummer in and of itself, but that also means that the school yearbook, which I am the editor of, now has a full 40 pages (roughly an eighth of the whole book) that were intended to cover events that are now canceled. Am I annoyed, yeah, but I'd prefer this to everyone saying "oh, it's not gonna happen to us, the swine flu is overrated", and then having one of my classmates in the hospital.
In Mexico, all schools, restaurants, and tons of other businesses and government offices are closed, and everyone has to stay in their homes as much as possible. Be glad you don't have to live that way for the next month and a half at least.

Sure, there's a low chance, but the chance is there. Sure it's overrated, but it certainly can't be underrated at this point. We don't know what to expect of this epidemic yet, I can't understand why people are angry about these precautions.
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