Welcome to 21c. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Swine Flu?
Topic Started: Apr 26 2009, 11:11 AM (1,684 Views)
Amzi
Captain
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I know the chance is there, I am just pissed off, I am not trying to sound like an ass hole but I am pissed. I totally get you guys and I think you guys are 100% right, but you have to understand that I am mad, and sometimes when you get mad, you exaggerate and say shit.

I am very thankful I am healthy and thankful my family anf firends are too, am I just mad, thats it
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
zzLyly
Member Avatar
Senior Warrant Officer
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Okay, if that's the case, then feel free to be mad! I'm a little mad myself... 40 pages! Gah, I have no idea how I'm supposed to fill that.
[align=center]Posted Image
South Korea - the original 51st state!
News | Factbook | Foreign Relations[/align]
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
zzdoncampos
Lieutenant
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I am still going on my cruise to the Mexican Riviera.
I will prepare and some day my chance will come.
~Abraham Lincoln


Posted Image

I was born for a storm and the calm does not suit me.
~Andrew Jackson
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
United States [Sel]
Member Avatar
The Creator
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Iraq [Amzi
 
,02 May 2009 11.15.06] No I woldnt, but I am fairly certain that it will not be that bad. i am not saying it cant be bad or it wont, I am just highly doubting it.

How do you know? Are you a doctor?
[align=center]United States of Trump
President DONALD J TRUMP
Vice President MIKE PENCE
Attorney General JEFF SESSIONS[/align]
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Amzi
Captain
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Why do you care? Are you a Devil's advocate?


Sel it is a called an opinion, and I have read about it and off of what the Health Department is saying and what the WHO are saying, it doesnt seem like it is going to be crazy bad. In fact, the CDC announced yesterday that in the worst case scenarion, worst case, that the U.S will see max 1,700 infected in four weeks. Not that scary, but I think it doesnt hurt to be prepared, I am just not going to freakl out becuase I doubt it will happen
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
United States [Sel]
Member Avatar
The Creator
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Iraq [Amzi
 
,02 May 2009 12.56.00] Why do you care? Are you a Devil's advocate?


Sel it is a called an opinion, and I have read about it and off of what the Health Department is saying and what the WHO are saying, it doesnt seem like it is going to be crazy bad. In fact, the CDC announced yesterday that in the worst case scenarion, worst case, that the U.S will see max 1,700 infected in four weeks. Not that scary, but I think it doesnt hurt to be prepared, I am just not going to freakl out becuase I doubt it will happen

That's just four weeks. Pandemics last months. And this could be just part 1. They say there's usually a sequel.
[align=center]United States of Trump
President DONALD J TRUMP
Vice President MIKE PENCE
Attorney General JEFF SESSIONS[/align]
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
zzdoncampos
Lieutenant
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Are you a doctor?
I will prepare and some day my chance will come.
~Abraham Lincoln


Posted Image

I was born for a storm and the calm does not suit me.
~Andrew Jackson
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
United States [Sel]
Member Avatar
The Creator
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
No, but I take information from doctors.
[align=center]United States of Trump
President DONALD J TRUMP
Vice President MIKE PENCE
Attorney General JEFF SESSIONS[/align]
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Amzi
Captain
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Do they come to your house and tell you personally, disease control stuff. Otherwise that means you watch the news and do homework which is what I do too.

I am not saying this cant get bad Sel, all i am saying is that I dont think it will. Thats all, I am done.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
United States [Sel]
Member Avatar
The Creator
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Iraq [Amzi
 
,02 May 2009 14.05.43] Do they come to your house and tell you personally, disease control stuff. Otherwise that means you watch the news and do homework which is what I do too.

I am not saying this cant get bad Sel, all i am saying is that I dont think it will. Thats all, I am done.

I read what the medical authorities say. That's all we have.

Your armchair expertise that comes out of your butt and denial has 0 credibility. I wish it weren't bad either, but I understand that it is. No need to stay in denial.
[align=center]United States of Trump
President DONALD J TRUMP
Vice President MIKE PENCE
Attorney General JEFF SESSIONS[/align]
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
zzphilanchez
Member Avatar
Starshina
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
You guys realize the rate of hospitalization is like 5% right? This flu outbreak is no harsher than a regular one, it merely has the possibility of infecting a lot of people because we lack immunity to it. It is not in any way shape or form DEADLIER than a regular flu outbreak.
Posted Image
“While there is a lower class I am in it; while there is a criminal element I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.”
Eugene Debs
“The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point, however, is to change it.”
Karl Marx
Revolutionary Socialist
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
United States [Sel]
Member Avatar
The Creator
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Not yet. Just wait a year and we'll be looking back at thousands or millions dead. The denialists expect everything to be instant without realizing that disease takes time. It took centuries for black death to enter and sweep Europe.
[align=center]United States of Trump
President DONALD J TRUMP
Vice President MIKE PENCE
Attorney General JEFF SESSIONS[/align]
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
United States [Sel]
Member Avatar
The Creator
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090502/ap_on_...swine_flu_death

While some of Mexico's swine flu fatalities were poor and had uncertain access to health care, the toddler who became the first U.S. death from the outbreak was born into one of Mexico's wealthiest families.

His father is a well-known architect. His grandfather is a Mexican media mogul who serves on the International Olympic Committee. His great-uncle controls the Angeles Hospital chain, one of Mexico's largest private health providers.

Miguel Tejada Vazquez, 21 months old, died on Monday in a Houston hospital during a visit to America. He had been with his family in Brownsville, Texas, for most of April, and came down with flu symptoms the day after a shopping trip to Houston's upscale Galleria mall on April 7.
[align=center]United States of Trump
President DONALD J TRUMP
Vice President MIKE PENCE
Attorney General JEFF SESSIONS[/align]
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
zzcrackzilla
Member Avatar
Warrant Officer
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
A baby? Dying of the flu?

Dear god! It's completely routine!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dax
Member Avatar
Il Duce
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Seriously. In that child's case, it had nothing to do with medical care or wealth. Working with food and having to know a shit-ton of stuff about viruses and illnesses (food-related, granted, but many of the same principles still apply), one of the first things you learn is that the three groups of people most likely to be severely ill with some sort of virus are young people (aged 6 and under), the elderly, and people on antibiotics. This is because their immune systems are weak or not fully developed.

This isn't an example to say, "OH, LOOK, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!".
[align=center]"The only problem is, we don’t often actually care about people’s quality of life in 21c." -- JCU
We are all citizens of the planet

Il Duce, starring as . . .

Posted Image

21C Best Foreign Affairs RPer 2009, 2011, 2012
Best Overall 2009, 2012

Administrator to end all administrators.
[/align]
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Schwerpunkt
Dalek Caan
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Being away from your typical family doctor also has a psychological effect in making most people want to tough it out. Most people won't know of doctors in whatever area they're in, even if it's only a short ride away. Most of the doctors I get referred to are in the same county, and if I was just two counties away I'd have no idea who to go to -- now imagine if that was a different country.

Thousands dead, though? Entirely feasible. It's simply because there are millions of infants and elderly in Mexico, America, and Canada. Hell, death tolls in the millions aren't out of the question -- that doesn't change the fact, however, that this flu will ultimately have a minimal impact.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
United States [Sel]
Member Avatar
The Creator
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
He was staying with family though, so you'd think they'd have doctors there. And if you're rich, you should probably have doctors known everywhere you go.
[align=center]United States of Trump
President DONALD J TRUMP
Vice President MIKE PENCE
Attorney General JEFF SESSIONS[/align]
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Max
Member Avatar
Senior Warrant Officer
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Clearly, this is merely the first part of the Zombie-Flu Disease.
[align=center]Posted Image[/align]
I watched them strap him into the seat and shut the door. He might of looked a bit nervous about it but that was about all. I really believe that he knew he was going to be in hell in fifteen minutes. I believe that. And I've thought about that a lot. He was not hard to talk to. Called me Sheriff. But I didn't know what to say to him. What do you say to a man that by his own admission he has no soul? Why would you say anything? I've thought about it a good deal.
Cormac McCarthy
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Schwerpunkt
Dalek Caan
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Ethiopia [Sel Appa
 
,02 May 2009 18.58.35] He was staying with family though, so you'd think they'd have doctors there. And if you're rich, you should probably have doctors known everywhere you go.

Maybe. Maybe they figured it was just a minor cold until it was too late to actually do anything? Maybe the illness was too far gone by the time he crossed the border? Maybe it was misdiagnosed? Too many variables. Combine that with the fact that infants are invariably some of the worst off when it comes to any sort of virus or infection and you have a lethal combination.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Mexico (Hubris)
Senior Warrant Officer
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Ethiopia [Sel Appa
 
,01 May 2009 01.17.48]
Poland [Hubris
 
,01 May 2009 00.49.26] Then again - I also do hope this will be a Pandemic that will wipe out a very very VERY large chunk of humanity.

Including yourself! B)

Good response. I'll make sure I'll bring you with me, darling - I'm sure Jersey's Health Care will keep you under a good shade of protection if it does indeed hit pandemic. :D
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
United States [Sel]
Member Avatar
The Creator
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090503/ap_on_...anada_swine_flu

Pigs on a Canadian farm have been infected with the new swine flu virus — apparently by a farm worker back from Mexico — and are under quarantine, officials said Saturday. It is the first known case of pigs having the virus.
[align=center]United States of Trump
President DONALD J TRUMP
Vice President MIKE PENCE
Attorney General JEFF SESSIONS[/align]
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Max
Member Avatar
Senior Warrant Officer
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
It goes both ways!

Before we know it it'll be called H1N1 31!

[align=center]Posted Image[/align]
I watched them strap him into the seat and shut the door. He might of looked a bit nervous about it but that was about all. I really believe that he knew he was going to be in hell in fifteen minutes. I believe that. And I've thought about that a lot. He was not hard to talk to. Called me Sheriff. But I didn't know what to say to him. What do you say to a man that by his own admission he has no soul? Why would you say anything? I've thought about it a good deal.
Cormac McCarthy
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
zzBugs
Member Avatar
Generalissimus of the Soviet Union
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
It's not a dead thread yet!
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/opinion/cartoons/
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
« Previous Topic · Mess Hall · Next Topic »
Add Reply