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| Switzerland Conscription & Military; Sould we have it or not | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 26 2009, 02:08 PM (673 Views) | |
| zzyurouk | May 26 2009, 02:08 PM Post #1 |
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Hi All this will be the first of things I will leave to the people of 21C to decide (considering I am meant to be a direct democracy) Should Switzerland have Forced Conscription,Conscription or even a army vote now. Thank You Estonia I will not be doing this overnight I will have it as a play and crat it over time. |
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| zzgoodie | May 26 2009, 02:19 PM Post #2 |
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Abolish the military and join the United Kingdom. |
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| zzyurouk | May 26 2009, 02:45 PM Post #3 |
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yeah that sound like a good idea considering swiss people refuse to join anything in fear of losing sovereignty. |
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| Schwerpunkt | May 26 2009, 02:47 PM Post #4 |
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Your predecessor wanted to buy guns from me. Disarming is rather.. odd. |
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| zzyurouk | May 26 2009, 02:56 PM Post #5 |
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my predecessor was a war mongered no but seriously I didn't know that any way disbanding the military does not mean I don't need guns cause if you don't have a military you have a para-military police force which is exactly the same just gets much less funding but still are capable of Domestic problems but useless Internationale. by the way what was he buying? |
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| Schwerpunkt | May 26 2009, 03:00 PM Post #6 |
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Tanks, I think. You'll have to ask him yourself. |
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| zzmorty | May 26 2009, 04:33 PM Post #7 |
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It seems very unlikely that Switzerland would drop its conscription policies, and, also you ought to know that conscription is by nature "forced" - saying "forced conscription" is totally redundant. Even more unlikely than Switzerland not having conscription is it not having a military. Polls show that support for that is around 15% at most, and only one major party (the Greens, and calling them a "major party" is something of a stretch given that they garnered less than 10% of the vote in the last election) could even conceivably support it. Several larger parties stress the need to strengthen the militia. |
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| United States [Sel] | May 26 2009, 05:16 PM Post #8 |
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Conscription is win. We should have it in the US. Or a CCC type alternative. |
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| Dax | May 26 2009, 05:45 PM Post #9 |
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The Swiss people are highly in favor of conscription. Try and win a referendum on abolishing it in Switzerland. |
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| Australia (LK) | May 26 2009, 05:49 PM Post #10 |
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"There is an organised movement in Switzerland called GSoA (Group for a Switzerland without an Army) aiming at the abolition of the military. The Swiss have voted twice on such a referendum. The first time was in 1989, when 64.4% of the voters voted in favour of maintaining the Swiss Army. The second vote was in 2001, with 78.1% in favour." |
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| zzmorty | May 26 2009, 07:35 PM Post #11 |
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There's some evidence that many people who voted in favor of abolishing the military actually just wanted to see reforms, though. |
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| zzEgypt | May 26 2009, 07:36 PM Post #12 |
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The way I was running it, there wouldn't be a chance of that right now. I was also focusing more on the economy, and putting the Economic Minister under fire, ect. |
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| Dax | May 26 2009, 07:43 PM Post #13 |
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As someone who lived in Switzerland, I can tell you with full faith that the Swiss military isn't going to be abolished any time soon. Not even close. |
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| United States [Sel] | May 26 2009, 08:00 PM Post #14 |
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So many stereotypes in this world. Switzerland is neutral, but still wants to maintain its integrity. Pot is not legal in the Netherlands. Arab countries do not hate Israel. |
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| zztayyip | May 26 2009, 08:07 PM Post #15 |
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Many of them do
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| Dax | May 26 2009, 08:11 PM Post #16 |
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Pot is legal for any amount of practicality. |
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| Mexico (Hubris) | May 26 2009, 08:25 PM Post #17 |
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Switzerland doesn't have a formal Military as it mostly just has a very well knit together Militia. I mean, it isn't as if the Neighborhood is bad or anything.. but face it - Switzerland's presentation of Military Force/Defense has kept many-o-dictators out of their neck of the woods. One to name - Hitler. Also, Switzerland isn't necessarily a Pacifist nation as it's just against much if any International involvement with their Country. Taking out of account, though, that most of the Peace conferences are held there. Still, none of them haven't ever really affected Switzerland directly.. other than making it a bad ass vacation destination for Politicians and Rogues alike. |
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| United States [Sel] | May 26 2009, 08:25 PM Post #18 |
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No it is not. |
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| United States [Sel] | May 26 2009, 08:26 PM Post #19 |
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No. |
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| Mexico (Hubris) | May 26 2009, 08:29 PM Post #20 |
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Marijuana is not LEGAL, it is more less Tolerated. What keeps it from being Legalized, really, is the fact that it brings so much unwanted attention to the country (namely, to Amsterdam) as is. Dutch Government is afraid of the negative stigma Pot already brings, and no - Marijuana isn't bad.. it's just the mass idiots who flock there just to smoke it, because it's "cool and legal" there. Mostly, Dutch Police won't really bust up a smoking bar.. but if you're foreign and caught with it, you could necessarily get into much more trouble than a native would in possession/dealing it. |
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| United States [Sel] | May 26 2009, 09:36 PM Post #21 |
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It is bad. That's another common misconception. It's like saying inhaling wood smoke is perfectly fine or lettuce smoke (Yes lettuce can be dried out and burned if you didn't know) is perfectly safe. |
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| Mexico (Hubris) | May 26 2009, 10:06 PM Post #22 |
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...Sel, if you just claimed that Lettuce smoking is some sort of fad that I never heard of before... I... ... I can not be held responsible for the kinds of things I will have to say to you, then. |
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| United States [Sel] | May 26 2009, 10:40 PM Post #23 |
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I'm just saying that people who claim marijuana is harmless are incorrect. |
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| Mexico (Hubris) | May 26 2009, 10:59 PM Post #24 |
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Oh, sure - but it doesn't mean people will stop smoking it. Just like my best pal Nicotine. CYA'LL IN THE CANCER CLINIC! |
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| zzyurouk | May 27 2009, 08:08 AM Post #25 |
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well to point out some stuff I will be doing this over time not in one post The reason of the second Referendum going so high is 9/11. The Reason Hitler did not invade Switzerland is because it is hard and the 3rd Reich was after resources not land as they wanted to feed the Fatherland.They also didn't attack Ireland because it had no significant recourses. |
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| zzLyly | May 27 2009, 09:16 AM Post #26 |
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If you boil a fresh cabbage, it writhes and screams. If you get the right one, it's actually scary as crap, like it's alive or something. (It's actually the water in the leaves escaping) But yeah, the actual inhaling of marijuana is as harmful as smoking anything else (though cigarettes are still worse, but that's because of the extra stuff in them). |
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| United States [Sel] | May 27 2009, 02:29 PM Post #27 |
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It also smells like a corpse. |
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| Russia (X) | May 27 2009, 02:53 PM Post #28 |
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Almost no one thinks pot is completely harmless. Driving your car is harmful too (very ...). Crossing the street risks immediate splat & death. The heaviest (pot) smokers I've ever met acknowledged pot was harmful. |
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| Dax | May 27 2009, 05:46 PM Post #29 |
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Actually, there were very detailed plans to invade Switzerland by Hitler. What stopped him was momentum and the fact that he was stretched too thin by the time that he could have feasibly done it. Oh, and the fact that the Swiss shot down 75% of the planes that violated Swiss airspace during WW2. I'm sure that deterred him, too. |
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| zznewbrittonia | May 27 2009, 06:17 PM Post #30 |
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It's fun though. |
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| United States [Sel] | May 27 2009, 10:05 PM Post #31 |
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I'm pretty damn sure you have stated on this board that pot is harmless. |
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| United States [Sel] | May 27 2009, 10:06 PM Post #32 |
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Don't forget the tank barriers on every road, the mined roads and tunnels and the fact that the Swiss were hiding stolen merchandise anyway. |
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| zzd | May 28 2009, 02:46 PM Post #33 |
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How did that affect the Invasion? |
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| Russia (X) | May 28 2009, 06:51 PM Post #34 |
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I've never said that Sel. Never. I've said Pot is near harmless if eaten, because THC isn't really all that dangerous in itself. |
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| Venezuela (DaBomb) | May 28 2009, 06:57 PM Post #35 |
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Off topic, but: Yoruk, did you make that sig yourself? |
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| United States [Sel] | May 28 2009, 09:23 PM Post #36 |
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You don't attack the people that are hiding your stuff. |
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| zzskylar | May 28 2009, 09:27 PM Post #37 |
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Drug addicts do all the time. |
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| zzLyly | May 29 2009, 09:31 AM Post #38 |
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They're also Drug Addicts. |
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| zzskylar | May 29 2009, 04:10 PM Post #39 |
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<_< Yeah. Perfect illustration. If I was a junkie, and my dealer was hiding my stuff, you're damn right I'd attack him to get it. |
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