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| Gunfire Erupts at Pro-Reform Rally in Tehran; Hmm | |
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| zzJJ | Jun 20 2009, 11:38 AM Post #41 |
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Who the hell is our Iran??? We need an active Iran cause this can be a great RP opportunity! |
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| zzmaikeru | Jun 20 2009, 11:39 AM Post #42 |
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Aramil. He seems to have disappeared. But he had Mousavi win. |
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| zzJJ | Jun 20 2009, 11:41 AM Post #43 |
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Oh well then nvm. |
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| zzLyly | Jun 20 2009, 03:06 PM Post #44 |
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Thank.. you? ... Anyway, I personally believe that the votes were rigged. However, I also believe there's a good chance Ahmadenijad legitimately won, with something around 51-54% of the vote. The reason it was rigged then, imo, is because with only that percentage, the election would have gone into a second round, with just the top candidates. This time, whereas the opposition vote was split between 3 candidates the first poll, all those votes would have gone to Mousavi, who would've dominated Ahmadenijad. That's my belief. |
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| Russia (X) | Jun 20 2009, 03:10 PM Post #45 |
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Lyly's probably about right there. |
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| Mexico (Hubris) | Jun 20 2009, 06:58 PM Post #46 |
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I thought it was funny at the time, because I was retardedly tired. He listed "Palestinians" instead of "Palestine", but I suppose it's right - especially from the viewpoint, because there is no "Palestine" from the viewpoint. Well, there is no Palestine.. Period. There's the Government-authority that represents Palestinians, but no official lands I suppose. Worded incorrectly, just so you know. |
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| zzLyly | Jun 21 2009, 12:37 PM Post #47 |
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![]() This was posted on Mousavi's Facebook wall today, not sure what it's a picture of, because the comment was in Persian. Still, I think it looks pretty bad. |
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| zzmaikeru | Jun 21 2009, 01:02 PM Post #48 |
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Looks to be plainclothes police officers attacking protesters and getting yelled at by angry women. Google added a Persian translation option to Google Translate recently, so if you can find the comment again you can get a rough English translation. |
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| United States [Sel] | Jun 21 2009, 02:14 PM Post #49 |
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Pretty much. The two leaked votes are Mousavi and Kerroubi on top (I'm doubtful of this, but it would justify a huge rigging) or Mousavi at or near 55% with Ahmadi at like 32%. I can look up the exact numbers if someone wants... |
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| zzmaikeru | Jun 21 2009, 02:34 PM Post #50 |
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UK-based Chatham House NGO publishes analysis of the Iran elections. Summary below:
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| Mexico (Hubris) | Jun 21 2009, 02:43 PM Post #51 |
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Those "plainclothes police officers" are Militiamen. They're controlled by the Revolutionary Guard, which makes total sense too as to how they were able to run a muck earlier in the week by firing into massive crowds. The actual Guard, however, is being deployed I here - and they're imposing curfews and such. It is seeming to be getting worst and worst by the day, but frigateamijad (I wonder how the censor will translate that) might be able to contain all of this. |
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| Russia (X) | Jun 21 2009, 02:59 PM Post #52 |
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The militia are called the Basij. They number around 10 million members. They range from athletic 16 year olds to old women, not all are armed. However, in a war the plan would be to arm them all. That way Iran's fighting forces go from a few million (depending on how many active Basij) to 11 million. Apparently Iran wants one division of Basij for every battalion (about a tenth of the size of a division) of Revolutionary Guard Corps troops. I think I saw it on a Youtube video of an Iranian TV interview with an IRG (Islamic Revolutionary Guard) commander. That was when I was playing as Iran and I wanted to know all of that stuff lol. |
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| zzLyly | Jun 21 2009, 03:01 PM Post #53 |
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Hmm... apparently the comment was, roughly "The photo on the first page of many of the world". |
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| United States [Sel] | Jun 21 2009, 06:50 PM Post #54 |
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I'm reading that now. Speaking of PDFs, I still have to finish that world crisis report. |
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| zzmaikeru | Jun 21 2009, 06:57 PM Post #55 |
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The Iranian Guardian Council has admitted that above-100% turnout was reported in 50 cities, totaling about 3,000,000 votes. This isn't enough to swing the election, however, and is less than the 160 cities Mousavi had alleged over-100% turnout in. It's interesting that they would do this, here are a couple scenarios as to why(re-posted from a forum dealing specifically with the Iran election):
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| zzLyly | Jun 22 2009, 01:47 AM Post #56 |
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| Dax | Jun 22 2009, 07:17 AM Post #57 |
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That's a gross over exaggeration. While no one outside of the Iranian government knows the exact figures for the Basij, it is estimated that the number ranges from 100,000 to at maximum 1 Million. |
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| zzBugs | Jun 22 2009, 08:38 AM Post #58 |
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No, I think he's right. I've seen figures for Iran's paramilitary forces being 11 million. It'd be just like a reservist force. Like our own National Guard and Reserves, being called up when needed. Now, the numbers don't matter. Note, that there are old women, and young boys in this. Plus, it's not like all of them would be armed. At most, with a baseball bat or scimitar lol. |
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| Mexico (Hubris) | Jun 22 2009, 09:24 AM Post #59 |
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That, and the only way for most Men to get into universities in Iran is to be a part of the Basij. It's more or less like a big giant Club. |
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| United States [Sel] | Jun 22 2009, 02:10 PM Post #60 |
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I still wish Obama would hire youth gangs to harass his opponents... Obama Shirts. The Boys in (Sky) Blue. |
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| Amzi | Jun 22 2009, 04:23 PM Post #61 |
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Has anyone seen or heard about that Neda lady being shot and killed by an Iranian police officer, here is the video. WARNING/GRAPHIC CONTENT seriously http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Neda...=en&emb=0&aq=f# |
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| zzskylar | Jun 22 2009, 04:42 PM Post #62 |
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| Amzi | Jun 22 2009, 05:12 PM Post #63 |
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I know, Neda has now, according to many news sites, as become 'The Voice of Iran' (Neda means 'voice' in Farsi') and has been hailed for her stand for democracy. |
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| zzmaikeru | Jun 22 2009, 07:34 PM Post #64 |
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Yep. Saw the Neda video on the 20th. Very tragic. |
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| United States [Sel] | Jun 22 2009, 11:27 PM Post #65 |
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I got suspended from NS once for posting Saddam's hanging, even with a warning. Don't worry though. As long as you post the warning. |
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| Mexico (Hubris) | Jun 23 2009, 12:18 AM Post #66 |
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heh, I went to spend time with my father today who has apparently been watching all this crap like an obsessed tween over The Secret Life of an American Teenager.. and I was quite impressed to realize how much I've been missing out on. That video is quite.. I don't know, I like it. The way you just see her slowly go down with the one or two guys holding her, and the way she stares at the cameraman.. it's just the way her eyes look, right before she starts bleeding out her nose and mouth. It's not even disgusting - it is, more or less, empowering.. and I hope that it helps give the motivation to the people to keep on the protests. Oh well - Apparently quite a few top leaders of the Revolutionary Guard spoke out against the violence against Protesters, that they are supposed to be there to protect the people and not the Government. I'm not sure how legitimate this is, but maybe it could be signs of a rift high up into the Military as well. I know the Militia has been known for firing on crowds lately, and Uniformed Policemen as well - not sure if I've read anything about Rev Guardsmen doing it directly. This could turn very hot and deadly if any more well captured deaths/murders like that occur (that's what it is, really. There is NO warranted reason to fire upon this woman, unless you're just a stupid frigateing prick.. which, of course the officer had to have been, but still). Erf. That's just pretty dramatic shit really. Oh, and Nationstates Administration is week - They're a bunch of frigateing ass holes, too.. and it's more or less a "NSG must WORSHIP us" sort of deal. They try to hard to be follow "Mods are Gods" routine. Anyway.. neh. |
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