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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 13 2007, 09:54 PM (1,832 Views) | |
| clementsls | Nov 13 2007, 09:54 PM Post #1 |
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well, when u guys c my topic title.. wad do u think i wanna post out? my english might not be tat gud.. but i do hope u guys can get wad i wanna express.. as u guys can c.. company weekly attendance is dropping.. SERIOUSLY.. boys r resigning n even nco r resigning.. sum resign bcos they r not promoted, sum resign after they r promoted (not offencing any1).. from every aspect, nco seems to be a really busy, tough n tiring post.. i'm sure sum boys dun even wan 2 b a nco anymore... Nco doesn't seems 2 be a gud job 2 be.. even boys r avoiding to be a NCo.. wad have BB becoming? ask urself n think bout it... every friday, whenever u thought of the next day, saturday will be a BB day, wad do u feel? wad will b ur 1st thought? will u be excited? will u be happy? i dun think most of u think so.. nowadays.. boys tend 2 avoid coming bb every saturday.. they will find wadever reason 2 try not coming bb. m i right? hav i spoken sum1's heart? frankly speaking, i noe most of u does.. i admit, even me myself does feel tat... i'm not trying 2 complain tat bb is getting worse... i juz wanna hear sum opinion from u all... mayb sum of u r planning 2 quit bb oredy... sum mayb trying 2 'survive' in bb...(u noe wad i mean) i wanna hear sumthing from ya all... izzit the program of every saturday tat cause tis all? since the whole weekdays u r sitting in the classroom... now tat even in bb u still hadda sit in classes 4 hrs? or izit freedom tat cause tis all? others can dye their hair, get their earrings.. speaking n doin wad so ever they wan.. lepak sini sane during saturday, wher we r drilling under the hot sun... getting push-ups.. i'm sure MOST of ya all ever thought of... y m i here every week, waiting 4 others 2 scold me.. waiting 4 others 2 punish me.. hadda 'make faces' 4 the higher ranks.. when other can enjoy their saturday life freely... erm... think bout it... wad will u b if not bcos of bb 2day? 4 those hu wanna quit... i noe it's been a hard time... we all had been the hard time... but izzit tat bb is realy a 'suffering place'? it used 2 b a realy fun place 4 me.. a time wher i get so excited every friday waiting for the next day 2 come... it used 2 b liddat.. but wad realy happen? had i spoken out wad u hav been thinking? these might not b the only thing can troubles all bb boys now... i wanna hear more... but do noe 1 fact... officers r trying 2 'pei he' us all... they r trying 2 suit our way.. but in the same time trying 2 hold the standard we had b4... will tis gonna b the 'zaman kegelapan'? our company has a total strength of 100+ members.. n we had their full name list.. but we only c bout 40 of them every saturday.. wher r the others? wad realy had happen? pls voice out ur opinion, tq... i do hope 2 hear sumthing... all r talking bout tis among themselves... but y it's only till me 2 talk bout it here, now? ther muz b sumthing behind tis... harlo?? hello?
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r u sure or r u confidence 2 say now tat, BB is the best? pls never judge on wad u c.. watch on the process 1st, den the result.. ![]()
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| leonard | Nov 13 2007, 10:02 PM Post #2 |
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aiya, wat clement said is true la... today i went to love in a box... cause i off day mar... then c til the boys can run around.... n play... one of them din wear socks n ran... til a group of ppl look at him.. so sia soi... then even 2nd kch boys.. aiyo... juz sit there nia..... n today 2nd kch juz got isaac, edwin, jasper, jesmond n me nia... so long i din go bb so dunno how is it liau.. i juz suggest la, sometimes saturday we should hav a different activities... |
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| hiten098 | Nov 15 2007, 09:14 AM Post #3 |
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Hahahhah~!! I see you guys are facing the same problem as I do in the past. It was so obvious when in secondary 2, questioning myself, why am I in BB? For what very reason I continue to join? Well, that reason by that time was friendship, my friends that continue to pull me in. I was really grateful for that. They keep encouraging me to go and talk about the upcoming activities. That really make it all different and there was that excitement I felt in heart. Therefore, friends are important, they can encourage and support each other, but never forget to lend them a hand when they are in times of trouble. That is why your sergeant major has been giving a great effort in maintaining a great relationship with all of the members in the Boys' Brigade. Even S/Sgt. Kho tries his very best to do that. S/Sgt. Gordon and S/Sgt. Chang give their best shot in doing so. Even I am trying to do that, maintaining a great relationship with all but do you think that is easy? Of course, all hard works pay and I'm sure they can't keep doing that for you and me. It's up to the young generation now, to continue and pull the young energy of BB. Did you know why you guys always find BB activities boring? Even though I tell you BB activities have been drastically changed since the year we were into BB, a lot of new events have been introduced but still the members will never be satisfied. Instead, they are easily satisfied by something else. You and the rest of members. You guys are the one that make all the differences. You see even with the best planned activities for the boys in the company will never guarantee their satisfaction and having fun time if the one who leads is not as energetic and enthusiastic. If you guys can smile, they will to. If you guys play hard, they will follow up. If you guys are discipline and serious, they will shut their mouth up. If you guys are crazy, they will go mad as well. But if you guys are boring, they will look like dead men. Example is still the best way of telling the boys what you want them to do and what should they be. It can impress others but also, discourage others. It's just up to those examples, whether to set a good one or a bad one. God has make all things different every day but have you notice them? If you did, did you share with the rest? It all depends on how you view your lives and the choice to choose the path is within you. You could choose to be sad, down and lazy throughout the whole parade but you can also choose to be happy, excited and great in the parade! It's all up to your choice of choosing which path to be taken. I know it's been difficult, setting a good example, trying to get something done to your best of ability or even just coming to the parade. But let me tell you something, our Lord will never give temptations greater than those we could handle. Thus, I am sure you can resist the laziness and the feeling of not wanting to go if you have faith in the Father's word and strong determination at heart. Go and serve those who are in the Kingdom of the Lord! Serve them with your own capability for you are unique and special! Have faith in Him and if you do by continuing your service in BB, you shall be rewarded handsomely by our dear Father! |
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| MuSixrOcKz | Nov 15 2007, 10:44 AM Post #4 |
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yeah.. watz wrong wif u guyz nowadayz?? not wanting to join BB anymore?? o r u juz using BB's name in the past to b famous n now when u don need it.. u throw it away?? sheesh wake up a bit man.. u guyz r no longer a kid.. every litte action u guyz do will influence ANYONE in BB.. quitting it when u tink it's staring to get boring.. 4 heaven's sake, couldnt u guyz make it FUN ??? the laz generation make it fun.. fun till u guyz join it... n now when they're gone it's ur turn to make it FUN 4 the next generation.. wad do u still expect?? tat the laz generation will make it FUN n not u guyz??? u get the post n u need to take the responsibility.. getting the fame onli n not doing anything?? great power comes wif great responsibility (spiderman) tink abt it.. although im juz a gb.. but still i can feel it when the BB is kinda falling.. we r the brigaders family.. the gb-ers will support u guyz.. n i definitely donwanan win next year's sports day without a great fight from u guyz.. it would be USELESS!!! so plz.. tink twice b4 u quit... u shud b proud u guyz got a fierce fierce officer.. if it wasnt bcoz of him, u guyz wont b as great as today.. u should go n thank him... mayb tis saturday.. tell him how much u appreaciate all his hard work.. he's one good example... ur great model... being so committed to BB.. don u guyz feel lucky?? |
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| Slim3r | Nov 15 2007, 01:44 PM Post #5 |
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Sorry if i'm being offensive.. hehe.. I agree with my darling...Boys now love to shut their mouth up. And juz look......And i tell you straight forwardly now.. Those newly promoted lcp.... are juz like PTES... i don't see any diffference in you guyz juz that you guyz have one more stripe and are juz being pulled into the NCO council or some other councils. But you guyz are worthless if you're not doing anything to help but juz to stare and start more troubles.I can see that those new NCOs starting to be dumb and deaf " Ya Ba". Get wat i mean??? Where's ur leadership??? initiative??? Leadership don't come when there isn't any initiative..like wat LT Desmond said. Leadership don't come in a day but it'll come if u start putting some effort into the things ur doing or taking initiative in giving some concern to other members. The generation now needs more care and needs more SCOLDING!!! Have you notice that the generation now don't often get scolding from their parents??? They're being pampered... and they don't know wat being scolded is like. Come to BB and FEEL IT AND LEARN FROM IT!!!! Those who read my post... i tell you whether ur a PTE,REcruit, or any NCO of any rank.. PLz support ur leaders too.. Without each and everyone's support.. A Leader can't be a leader because he has no one to lead. And it's worthless working himself and carrying up a whole sum of burdens. BB ask for teamwork among each and everyone of us. Teamwork included fellowship-ing with other members,get to know each other well and i tell you...teamworking with them will be as easy as ABC. Now get ur butts moving and hold on to this Company.. we were once known as a strong company.. and now it's up to us to try hold it on.Remember... Rank isn't important...nor does power or fame. WAt's important is to learn from BB and to bring those nonbelievers to christianity through BB.. Take care...Love each other as God loves you all. =) Hope i din offend anyone or forget to say something in here.. |
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| @sunny@ | Nov 15 2007, 07:05 PM Post #6 |
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We always ask the other what can bb/company can do for me but we never question ourselves what can we do for company. The attendance dropping is quite a big trouble which face by company. What is the reason? The companyHBut the company had changed a lot to suit the new member! The reason seems to be the member and not the company! All of us shouldnft think about why we join bb but to think why we stay in bb. Felt tired, set back and sad because didnft get promotion as we wish is the common problems we face in bb! What is the best solution to solve the problems? Resign? Winner never quit, quitter never win! Difficulties and problem make the weaker fall but make the strong stronger! Without difficulties will we brave and strong? Without fall will we feel pain? Without lose will felt happy for the win? Without loss will we cherish everything that we have? Without set back will we get up again? Without pressure will we move toward the success? All we face in bb is the things we will face in our future and even in our job thatfs why we callgcompanyh! For me the reason cause the problem is love! Did we love one another, did we concern about the other? BB like a big family, how to maintain the harmony and the family member is depend on everyone who in this family not only officer and NCO! If the brothers in the family chose to be selfish and only thinks about own benefit but not the family it will fall apart! A good leader also needs the good follower! Every person is unique and contributes to company in different ways so whatfs the meaning to care about ranking? We are human, we will feel sad, but we also can feel happy! When we feel sad toward some things which happen in bb, please do remember to recall the memory we all sweat under the sun, all sad with same thing, all become crazy and mad in pesta and other events or activities! Although it is a test and problem for the company but GOD will make a way for bb in the way we cannot see! We do whatever we can! God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, courage to change the things we can, and wisdom to know the difference. May all bb company keep growing in the glory of god. (no offend anyone, and hope wat I said didnft wrong)!!!!!!!GOD BLESS |
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| clementsls | Nov 15 2007, 08:18 PM Post #7 |
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juz wanna clarify sumthing ah... tat post of mine which i wrote is not saying tat 'SAYA MAU BERHENTI' nonono.. dun misunderstand ah...(if sumbody does) i'm juz writing out wad the boys r thinking nowadays n their feeling... sum r my own experiences... n i noe 2nd Kch is facing a major prob now.. i juz wanna hear more comments from ya,all... after reading all these comments... i dig out a small prob tat every1 has... it is tis 'small prob' tat caused all these major probs now.... Many of u r realy gud at finding the probs.. ya, guD! we nid ppl lyk u... BUT!! we had too much of 'u' every1 is gud at digging out others weakneses.. shooting me n u... but wad is the conclusion?! yes, nco nowadays sik ade initiative... no leadership....(luv ya, slimer 4 saying tis) tis is a truth... but since every1 noes tis prob le... did u do anything? hav any1 taken any actions? in a strong company, we nid ppl tat dig out probs n weaknesses of the coy... we oso nid a strong leader 2 succeed n solve these probs... tis 'strong leader' dun nid 2 think n talk so much... HE JUZ HADDA DO IT N ACCOMPLISH IT! oh yeah.. we nid actions actions actions!! we r realy gud in finding the probs, but no one take any actions 2 solve it... yes, we nid more discipline, so?! wad can we do? u only answered the 'wad n why' question... u didn't answer the 'how' question... yes, we oso realy nid more love, so?! wad can we do? tis habit has bcome a lifestyle... omos every1 is doin it... ESPECIALY THE NEW GENERATION PTE N NCO... i realy hadda say tis... no action talk only.. wake up lar... wake up.. i'm talking seriously now... action is needed now... i hope sumday we all n sit down n talk bout it n solve it... thru tis topic tat i made... i found tis bad habit of us again.... c? praying to God is important n is wad we usually does.. but God will not help us if we juz sit ther n wait 4 his saving... no way... i'm a sinner, every1 is a sinner... we nid a self-reflect.. think bout it... i'm not saying i'm gud... i had my weakneses... n i m the one being shoot the most too... i luv bb... so do u, rite? |
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r u sure or r u confidence 2 say now tat, BB is the best? pls never judge on wad u c.. watch on the process 1st, den the result.. ![]()
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| SoftcorePunk | Nov 15 2007, 10:25 PM Post #8 |
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| ptewee | Nov 15 2007, 11:02 PM Post #9 |
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Brigadiers in-line! Welcome back, Commander. |
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| iamnotaboy | Nov 16 2007, 10:10 AM Post #10 |
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wow, great (long) posts. glad to hear from those 'spoken' with heart. keep it up. |
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| @sunny@ | Nov 16 2007, 10:46 AM Post #11 |
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The new recruits and new nco are affected by the old member!So i think if we want to change the mind of the new recruits we should change the old member thinking first! Only recruits wanna to resign only? How about the old member? Every week they come for bb is because they love bb and find bbis interesting or just because of responsiblity? Always held some drill camp, band camp, i mean those buzy camp! How about try to held a camp which specialy for old member and seek for their deep heart thinking? No tough training just sit down have a brief talk between the officer, higher ranking and old member, and try to cook with wood! It was a difference experience use wood to cook, it will help to built up the team work! What i mean is, since the camp only talking and researching so how about take more times to cook (with wood)! It's hard to express during the whole process! But in my company it works! What are the problem that trouble them and try to solve the problems together! But of courts, the leader who lead the camp must full with patient and really listen to thier problems with heart and have a talk by heart with them? I believe they can understand! If the problems of old member was solved, they will lead thier junior or new recruits with the high spirit! Many of them feel bb is tough! How to make new recruit stay?Drill is difficult? How about to make the drill lively in diciplin ways? Everyone dislike pumping? My junior dun like the pumping but do not dislike to pumping! For me, I teach my junior drill and describe drill as a e i o u! After the command u cannot move! Demo the mistake they do in funny way, they will laugh at themself for the stupid and lovely mistake too! And give them a impress that pumping is not a "denda" but a reminder for u dun make any mistake and pay attention! Dun give many pump just two is enough for "every" mistake! Maybe u can divided member into two groups! Team A and team B! A is the better, B is the weaker! Let them have a healthy compete! The better in team b can go to team a, and the weaker in team a will go to team b! But must give both of the teams with correct thinking! It is impossible to solve this problem in a short time, solve it a litter bit and litter bit! I believe if everyone love the company, the problem will be solve! |
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| engtaukia | Nov 16 2007, 11:02 AM Post #12 |
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b4 starting anything... hi 2 every1 here... its been quite a long time... seems like problems r bursting out recently.. bck 2 the main concern ---> attendance start fr the lowest 2 the highest... as a Boy: - play ur own role - don do wat u shud not (sumthing shud not be played by ur part) exp. acting like ur incharge over a manner, let the ncos do the work be polite, don boast around, pay ur respect - don blame if ur not promoted or anything, u shud interpret y ur not promoted - don be self-centered, ur not the only 1 waiting 4 promotion, ur not the best after all, u juz think ur the best NCOs: - do ur work too (rili do it) exp. make ur calls regularly - if u did it oledi then find out the reason behind it, y they r not coming, is the reason given the truth? - if they rili don wan 2 come u do it the harsh way, get their uniforms bck, wats the purpose of begging them bck? - wat is the prob if there r juz 20 left? - don be lazy, u hav the authority given, then use it wisely - regarding the activities, explain y u all shud be sitting in cls, if not where u get ur badges? - if badges is not the main concern, then wat? knowledge? how 2 gain it? get their feedbck - open ur mouth in meetings, don keep the feedbcks, they r useful, voice them out 2 the officers for ALL: - BB is not changing after all - ppls mindset r changing - BB nd 2 change to adapt ppls mindset or ppls mindset shud be change? - generations r taking over generations, of coz there r sum changes nd to be made, but not changing the purpose, the twin pillars??? DISCIPLINE: let the DISCIPLINED stay, swap the others out CHRISTIAN FAITH: spread the WORD of GOD, love 1 another as u love urself we r living GOD's life, not our own's we live 4 GOD we do HIS jobs BB is a method or a way to make ppl know GOD the numbers means nth the meaning behind every activity counts how 2 discipline a person n how 2 let him believe in GOD is wat BB cares advance the kingdom of CHRIST 20 souls saved n 100 members which 1 is greater? take a time, read the object n the twin pillars think about it like a man n not a kid we do wat we shud n wat we can leave the rest 2 the hand of GOD GOD will bless every1 of us |
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| howeliang | Nov 17 2007, 09:43 PM Post #13 |
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wow ... very touch ... i'm hearing attendend keep on droping week after week .... oh my godness!!!! |
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| LvIN | Nov 17 2007, 11:11 PM Post #14 |
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without reading all the post, as i've got no free enuf, still i wan drop smth... 1 very very very obvious thing is...boys in the past polish their uniform to death i even used hours polishing the brown buckle on Sunday(i remember clearly) after i just got my uniform on previous day got brasso n kiwi? happy then n started to lay on the floor at the back of my house...u think it's raining? it was sunny day yet i was still there spending hrs despite air-cond was on inside the house from here, from there, from everywhere we get information on how to polish n jaga the uniform but nowadays...i found it's not the same anymore...i think it started last yr... while doing inspection(on new boys), always find buckle unclean...yellowish n brownish how bad it is! y will they still be proud of it? they dun even feel the need to wear cool uniform... conclusion: uniform is not a major factor of attaction to them anymore, they're not proud of the uniform in drill, they(sometimes "WE") did badly... not proud of it anymore... |
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| hiten098 | Nov 18 2007, 01:30 PM Post #15 |
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Well, if that's the case, what do you guys think you should do to solve that? |
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