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Topic Started: May 1 2006, 01:20 PM (476 Views)
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Miami are losing 2-1 to dallas, they jus got an important victory last nite makin it 2-1

the best SG in the league Dwyane Wade of miami had a 42-point, 13-rebound performance.
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i havnt seen it for a while but my fren coach presents 1 of dem NBA things late at nite
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yeh the blak dude with the lil smiley cockney wanka.
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best SG Dwayne Wade??? :lol: @ that..
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dont even say Kobe cuz ur from cali lol the dude is a jordan clone dat cant win without shaq, hes the best scorer, Wade is the most versitile and best SG in the NBA fact
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hes not a cocky wun
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lol i kno hes gunna say Kobe its obviouss maann :lol:
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lol there is waaaaaaaaay to long of a list to prove why kobe is better. Facts upon Facts upon Facts. Every1 keeps saying kobe can't win rings w/o Shaq, yet Shaq isn't doing to hot w/o Kobe now is he?? There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with molding ur game after the greatest player that ever lived. Wade will never get on Kobe's level, let alone get 3 rings.. The only person that i see being just as good as kobe when his career is said and done is lebron. Lebron >>>>>Wade, Melo, and every other new breed. Kobe=better scorer, smarter, better footwork, bigger arsenal {i.e. "unblockable fadeaways&jumpshots"} muuuuuch better defense, and did i mention 3 rings? I really wish i was kobe bryant for a day even tho i can ball, all that talent and he gets to come home to a beautiful wife and kids. Lucky azz. It's not about me bein Cali cuz i know once Lebron starts getting some wins he will EASILY be the best player for generations to come. It is possible that he will even be neck and neck with Jordan one day. It's not hype because Lebron has proved everything people doubted he can do, with one of the shittiest teams ever compiled.
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kobes lyk sum kinda jordan cyborg... and last time i cheked shaq is in the NBA finals an kobe is sittin at home thinkin about how he CHOKED in the play-offs
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and now miami hav beaten dallas again, and its 2-2 in the series.
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ya but look at Shaq's "stats".....he's in the finals because all of those 'role players'. Kobe had odom, ok cool. Shaq has Wade, Payton, Williams, Mourning, Walker, Posey....need i go on? lol....Give kobe another player that is dependable besides odom and it's over. If Shaq had L.A.'s team he would be nowhere near the playoffs lol...seriously. Kobe is a monster.
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nobody likes playin with kobe, hes like stephon marbury, hes abit of a dick.
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He might seem that way on court because he's so focused but if u get to meet him off court {like myself} and know what he does for L.A. then you prolly think different.
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he also seems to make players around him worse, where as shaq makes everybody betta ex. dwyane wade becomin a superstar. i'd be suprised if kobe eva won anutha championship.
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how can he make players worse than they already are? If Jordan couldn't make Kwame better then how could u expect kobe too? Look at the players Kobe has, then look at the players Shaq has. There's a significant difference, shaq doesn't have to do shit except sit his big ass in the low post. D. Wade was a superstar BEFORE Shaq. He brought his team to the playoffs the first year, remember? Don't get it twisted tho Shaq is tha homie, he's a cool person too and the most dominant player the game has ever seen next to Jordan.
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dwyane wade averaged 16 pointsppg without shaq, thas not close to a superstar, wen shaq came it went up to 24 ppg which is a superstar and now its up to 27 ppg. and shaq has a good team around him cuz ppl want to play for shaq so they come to miami, where as nobody wants to play with kobe so they all leave or dont come which is why miami are good an the lakers are shit. Lakers had a pistons style starting 5 in 04 and jus cuz of kobes selfishness there all gon.
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LoL. Wade had 16 as a *rookie* yes, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he went to the playoffs W/O Shaq....plus the heat almost lost to the fucking Bulls for crying out loud, WITH Shaq. Kobe brought the Worst combination of players on a team {except maybe the bobcats and hawks} and took a top-rank team like phoenix 7 games. Shaq doesn't have a good team around him cuz ppl want to play with him, lol wtf? He has good team around because of >Pat Riley< who manages/coaches the team. Shaq doesn't run anything lol.....If nobody wanted to play with Kobe then they wouldn't have Odom, who is also a star.. Kobe works with all his players, but you can't do much for people who just don't have much talent {i.e. Kwame, Sasha, Bynum}. Shaq doesn't have to make Payton better cuz GP is a vet/legend already, he doesn't have to help Morning cuz Zo has always been a monster, Williams is the nicest white boy in the League, see what i mean? Shaq doesn't have to do anything...Ppl are forgetting that the Lakers weren't even expected to make it to the playoffs with that terrible of a lineup and ppl expceted Kobe to play worse without Shaq. This past year is the best year Kobe has ever had in his life and he is in his prime right now. If Lakers get K.G., which is 'supposed' to happen, then it's ovvvva. And u wanna know the real reason why the lakers lost to the pistons in 04'? Find the footage of the series somewhere online and you'll see that Shaq got 'Raped' by Ben Wallace the whole series, defensively shut-down and out-rebounded by a large margin... That's why L.A. has lost some respect for Shaq during that series because he gets out of shape EASILY, which is the reason why Riley got pissed at him earlier in the year and made him get his shyt together. And he makes stupid comments sumtimes even tho he's funny as hell too. How is he gonna say Phil was the best coach and now all the sudden that he's on miami, Riley is the best coach he's ever had? That's dickryding. Don't forget their is little to no credible Centers in the League right now...If kobe had a tim duncan or an amare or a K.G. then he'd win another 3 rings...

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We'll see wen Odom and a few other players are traded for KG this summer then, KG is the onli superstar dat mite work with Kobe cuz he duznt need the dam ball in his hands constantly
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exactly....that's why it's not fair to say kobe is selfish, it's jus that he's a star. lol look at Vince Carter, Gilbert Arenis, T-Mac, Wade and especially A.I. They all need to jak up alot of shots for their team to win consistently.
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i think dat trade is gon happen u kno, ther will definetly be a superstar brought in without givin up Kobe, but 100% givin up odom.

fuck the lakers doe the clippers thas where its at B)
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lol, the clippers had their one and ONLY chance to do something and they blew it. Took them 40 fuckin years to even get that far lol, bunch of laker rip-offs. Clippers are never gonna be shit but another team to cheer for besides the Lakers....lakers have like 20 banners and clippers have 1 lol...
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the lakers are jus an annoyin franchise, ther dat franchise everybody who knos nuttin about the NBA says they follow, still thinkin shaq plays for em
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No franschise is better than the lakers, Showtime was the best era in basketball period. Magic man, the mAAAGic.
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it was koo, but kobe is not a likeable player, due to his personality he jus seems like a prick.

and miami hav taken a 3-2 lead ova dallas in the finals, winning 101-100. wade drove with 1.9 seconds left, got fouled by dirk and sank both freethrows for the win and his 43 points, i think my wade bein betta than kobe comment is bein backed up mor and mor. kobe can put up as many numbas as he wants in the season, but he choked against phoenix and wade jus came thru 3 times ina row.
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kobe didn't choke, he just doesn't have a team to back him up. Wade wouldn'tve got to the playoffs even with a lineup that kobe has....and anyone can say what they want about kobe as a person but unless they've met him and live in L.A. to see what he does for the community then they can't really say anything about him that holds any clout. Dirk is pissin me off, i don't wanna see Shaq's sell-out ass when another championship.
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lol all lakers fans hate shaq jus cuz kobe was bein a dick and he had enuff and left, i dont blame him, if u rememba miami was a weak team until wade came about and as a rookie basicly got them in the play-offs towards the end of the season. kobes the best scorer in the nba and thas it, wades a better playmaker and a better rebounder and will develop into one of the best defensive players in the league and is also developing his 3 point range.
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wade doesnt' have anything on kobe. Kobe has broken so many records it's not even funny. L.A. doesn't like Shaq because Shaq got greedy, and the manager wasn't havin it, especially since Shaq is past his prime. *fact* Everyone is wow'ng over Wade just because he's going to carry on the torch for the next generation. Wade has a long way to go before he can be compared to kobe.....he needs 3 championships, he needs to break records, he needs to bring a terrible team like kobe had to the playoffs, like lol the list is endless. The only people that think Wade is anywhere near Kobe's level is the people who have a personal vendetta against kobe. It's funny how kobe has to prove himself to so many people when he's already accomplished just about everything a player could dream of in the N.B.A.

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i was actually startin to think the hype was kobe was reel wen the lakers were up 3-2 against phx, but simple fact is kobe choked he choooooooooked and they went down 4-3. kobe had shaq in his prime, so he shudda won 3 championships, any top 10 guard in the league wud win championships with shaq in his prime. if wade had of had shaq in his prime wade and shaq wud of won mor. kobes in his 10th year, and hes got a 3rd year player on his back, and we alreadi kno LeBron is betta than kobe on top of dat.
and sayin wade has betta playas around him wtf happend with kobe wen he had... umm... shaq... payton... karl malone all around him, all 3 of those guyz are in the 50 greatest players of all time and they were still forces. but nope they didnt win a title cuz kobe was busy pissin off shaq.
and kobe is almost 6'7, wade is 6'4, height advantage goin on but still.
Wade > Kobe

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When wade wins 3 championships then i'll pay attention til now he's just a good player that has the best center. Ahhah u gotta read these slam magazines, Bron already said Kobe is the best player in the league so ???. Karl Malone was like 50 ahah and payton choked that whole season if you watched it, which i doubt since all of the laker games come on tv. Shaq pissed himself off by being overweight and getting outplayed. Kobe is the best basketball player alive and he has the stats, the players and the coaches that back him up by saying he is. Until i see a real reason that wade or bron or anyone else is better than kobe then this is kobe's era....has been since 2000. and LoL @ that 1 video. I guess they didn't show the other one where kobe dropped 40+ on wade ? lol obviously a heat/wade fan that made the video and left out the other game where kobe held wade to 20 sum points and dropped 40 on him....i have to agree with that comment under that video too..


"wade is an explosive one dimensional player. He can play d and get some blocks, but not at kobes level. kobe is both offensively and defensively explosive. Wade is baffled by double teams against him, and can have a nightmare shooting night, while kobe can split the double team and shoot off the charts. More differences? Kobe better 3 point shooter, kobe 3 rings, kobe>wade clutch." - some guy....that knows wat he's talkin bout.

Kobe owns Shaq!!!
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kobe can drop 4000 points ina game for all i care, but his championship days are OVER B) where as shaq is one win away from championship number 4 B) and wade is 1 away from his first :fight: oh yeh and wade cud beat kobe ina fist fight!!

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kobes reppin it der, fightin lyka suburban housewive who getz beat on.
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