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TOOKIE
Topic Started: Jul 21 2006, 07:50 PM (748 Views)
Tòókie
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so EIB usin big words gets him votes now? :blink:

I mean, thats a good skill ta have but like Swiff said, it dont really flow well cuz he only rhyme the last syllable, I think he seriously woulda had a much stronger verse if he rhymed those big words wit multis n shit...seems too simple, imo
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Can you guys not count? There's more than one syllable at the end of every rhyme! And where exactly did I say that using big words was the only reason I voted for him?

And on another note you being kinda hypocrtical...saying that my vote isn't justified because I said it was a fairly easy win for EIB and the other 2 said it was close. In my battle with Daf, Supa said it was a easy win for me and Joel voted for me too. So why then did you think it was close and give Daf the vote?
Coz in this battle your saying that my opinion os outweighed so must be wrong, yet it's fine for you to have a completely different opinion?
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in da end, i dnt care if u lot think im in his fan club, i enjoy and understand tookies flow better, and tookie won by a vote so he won. end of. no hype needed.
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no...thats how I started off, then I explained...wit the whole personals thing...read my whole post b4 callin me a hypocrit plz <_<

now 2ndly, thefuck is u smokin!? more then 1 rhymin syllable at the end of each line?!...his whole verse is basically rhymin 'tion' over nd over again except for the last 2 lines...nd also this 1 which doesnt really rhyme anyways...

Aint about MiMi its about ME ME, i couldnt figure, manz complacent// :2:
Soakin up your self-proclaimed wordplay like fried bread saturation//

:unsure: ...*mouths out* 'complacent'....'saturation'... :huh:

nd since he deleted his non rhyming tourny verse, that line could re-assure any one that missed it, that this should be a personal even though even I didnt count it as 1, lmao

[size=6]Cant even rhyme[/size], get Swiffs number, call n cry "MORE HELP!!"/
Dudes shook, might as well repeat the tourny, bitch disqualify yourself//**

^^btw, see how that flows betta cuz I rhymed more than just the last syllable :whistling:
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2 syllables.....A-TION. When you say them they rhyme. Just because they're not spelt the same doesn't mean they don't rhyme when you say them. Rhyming bare words together does not make it flow better. Multi word rhyming is stupidly over rated. You could write an enitre verse where every word rhymes, but if the lyrical content isn't there then it doesn't mean a thing.
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yo its obvious u aint a battle mc...its 2 completely different things when writing for audio nd writin text...ur right about this "You could write an enitre verse where every word rhymes, but if the lyrical content isn't there then it doesn't mean a thing." when it comes 2 audio...but in a text battle its like I dont care if every word this dude uses is straight out the dictionary, as long as I clown him better then I got this...nd well, yeah hes tryna be lyrical but u cant say that I aint "make fun of him" better

Its like wit text, overall multis n complexity n all that are essential, but of course in audio its different cuz its all about the message behind ur rhymes...in text its all about entertainin the reader nd not putting em ta sleep, thats how it was on the kinda sites me n Swiff come from nd probly any battle site...like if multis nd shit wasnt such a big deal then whys it 1 of the main categories? nd I can almost guarantee that its like that on every battle site

EDIT - n dont get it twisted, I aint sayin bein lyrical in a battle is a bad thing...u just gotta know how ta use it right nd well, honestly, I think Joel should work on that
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It's like I said though people read battles differently, I'd rather read a battle verse with complex rhymes, disses and subliminals rather than a blatent obvious diss. It's easy to state the obvious, but it's not so easy to put it into context and build on it. That's what I've been saying. In terms of lyrically styles it comes across to me like EIB is underground and you're commercial. Not in the literal sense, but in terms of putting your styles into context.
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ahah...man, i knew this would happen...dickryding, bragging, egos....its all here!! Ain't nobody in here much better than the next person so stop it with that ego shit ya'll...Ain't nobody in here a real dope Emcee. I've heard everyones audio and yea......NO...lol just bein honest. this is only txt rap. Don't bite each others head off over one person's vote&opinion.

p.s.- Nas took a piece of Jay-Z's soul with 'ether' It goes waaaaay beyond fuck Jay-Z wtf? U need to play that track again right now!! and it's very possible to have hot verses with only 1 syllable wtf??! Damn....hip-hop 101...once again. BUT at the same time Multis >>>>> 1-syllables in a battle, unless you got ridiculous wordplay.


"It's like I said though people read battles differently, I'd rather read a battle verse with complex rhymes, disses and subliminals rather than a blatent obvious diss. It's easy to state the obvious, but it's not so easy to put it into context and build on it."

^^i've ran into many ppl that vote like this, and you gotta respect ppl's votes. No matter how dope you think your verse is...it does NOT matter... you can complain and say yooo that dude aint got me in this category blah blah blah, but you ain't gonna change a voters mentality ya digggg? I'm outroooo...
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With that being said, i'ma keep it realll funky with ya'll on how i seen this battle...


EIB:::::::::::

Fuck the tourny DQ, i've become impatient, zero revoloutionization//
If u had midget sex with Dupri it wouldnt trigga any 'Emancipation'//

^^^^whoooa, stretched this verse out more than a choreographer my nigga lol....structure is off, dope concept & personal tho

Aint about MiMi its about ME ME, i couldnt figure, manz complacent//
Soakin up your self-proclaimed wordplay like fried bread saturation//

^^not bad, wordplay is on point with that fried bread saturation...who the fuck thinks about that in a battle?!?! lol i mean come on!!! ahah funny shit...

Always talkin about "hoes" in your rhymes *sniff* commercialisation//
Should get knocked the fuck out for biting swiff, Ja teef sensation//

^^^cool line but i still don't know wtf Ja teef means? do u mean ya teeth? lol wtf is goin on here.

Dude shouldnt be Stealin' this battle even if his name was Gary Payton//
Just call me 'Lucifer' cuz i only need an AK...A so u know im Satan//

^^^^ehhh, u must close HARDER than that.




TOOKIE::::::::::::::::



My punches leave this dude on his back, lyrically fuck em missionary/
Wanna be Nas, kid found his verse in a fuckin dictionary//

^^^^ not a great opener, simmmpple ass concept but the setup is decent
EIB a gangsta? please, this sap's soft as a feather/
'Fuck Love'? homie u should just say fuck rap altogether//*

^^^^HELL to the NO. that soft as a feather line is just as lazy as one of the lines i spit in our battle...I know it's ez to get lazy but u know EIB isn't that battle tested so you could've went in for the kill within the first 2 lines...U should know that line is hella wak...

Cant even rhyme, get Swiffs number, call n cry "MORE HELP!!"/
Dudes shook, might as well repeat the tourny, bitch disqualify yourself//

^^^ That disqualify yourself line is funny as fuck...don't knock EIB for that complacent/saturation shit cuz cry More Help/disqualify yourself is far from a nice multi...But yo, that disqualify yourself shit is hilarious. I ain't never heard sum1 DQ'ng themself.

Its so simple ta see Ima take this, already started the celebration, champ/
The Hip Hop Hitler.....I just put this jew through more hell than a concentration camp//

naaaah. This line is so elementary that i felt like going to recess in the middle of reading it. If you would've worded it different and made some adjustments in the wordplay then the battle wouldn'tve been close. I was saying the line over & over just to see if i was trippin but nah, you tried to cram too much in there.



Punches: ...Neither, really....EIB was spittin them jiggsaw puzzle lines, all complicated & shit lol....Some of it was dope but some..nah. Tookie had sum ok shit but sum shit was played...Tookie got a lil bit of that fire, he just took EIB for granted; which is odd because EIB dropped first. *shrugs* oh well.

Personals: ...*Tookie*, hands down...no debating.

Creativity: ...I dunno why but i was fuckin falling out of my chair when i read that Fried bread saturation line cuz i put that on everything that u will NEVER EVER hear or see that verse again in your fucking LIFE. LOL. I gotta give it to *EIB*.

Meta's: ...This goes to *EIB*. Why? Because of that sub-par closer. It wasn't hard enough to be a closer but that was an interesting meta.. The reason why is because of that AK.....A!!!! <<the A!!!! lol it just felt fresh when i read it. Like on sum Juelz type shit.... cuz i only need an AK...A!!! like....it was just coo.

Wordplay: ...Nah, the wordplay wasn't strong in this battle...it seemed like the energy just fizzled out after the self-proclaimed DQ

Multi's: ...This has to go to *Tookie*....It's unfortunate because EIB doesn't have a great multi-setup cuz that's not his style....But it doesn't matter what style you have, you have to be able to execute multis in sum kind of way.

Flow: ...What flow??? lol....both of the flows were offfff...there was alot of streched & crammed lines, and this isn't based on audio...this is txt.. It was a rushed battle it seems so i can understand the circumstances but still...that means no1 deserves a vote in this category...

RESULT:::: ^^TIE^^

p.s.- EIB i hope those weren't prepared lines, because if you bring prepared lines to a battle, they better be some K.O. type verses.
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Those lines were done on the same day within 10 minutes, i then came back later and had to edit a load of them so they had relevence.

Ja Teef = Ja Rule = a biter
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^^^ good to know.
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Jul 24 2006, 12:48 AM
TOOKIE::::::::::::::::



My punches leave this dude on his back, lyrically fuck em missionary/
Wanna be Nas, kid found his verse in a fuckin dictionary//

^^^^ not a great opener, simmmpple ass concept but the setup is decent
EIB a gangsta? please, this sap's soft as a feather/
'Fuck Love'? homie u should just say fuck rap altogether//*

^^^^HELL to the NO. that soft as a feather line is just as lazy as one of the lines  i spit in our battle...I know it's ez to get lazy but u know EIB isn't that battle tested so you could've went in for the kill within the first 2 lines...U should know that line is hella wak...

Cant even rhyme, get Swiffs number, call n cry "MORE HELP!!"/
Dudes shook, might as well repeat the tourny, bitch disqualify yourself//

^^^ That disqualify yourself line is funny as fuck...don't knock EIB for that complacent/saturation shit cuz cry More Help/disqualify yourself is far from a nice multi...But yo, that disqualify yourself shit is hilarious. I ain't never heard sum1 DQ'ng themself.

Its so simple ta see Ima take this, already started the celebration, champ/
The Hip Hop Hitler.....I just put this jew through more hell than a concentration camp//

naaaah. This line is so elementary that i felt like going to recess in the middle of reading it. If you would've worded it different and made some adjustments in the wordplay then the battle wouldn'tve been close. I was saying the line over & over just to see if i was trippin but nah, you tried to cram too much in there.


aight, lets see...

1st off, the soft as a feather shit was just a filler line, I needed somethin b4 that personal bout his track...nd secondly, thefuck u smokin? u sayin complacent/saturation rhymes just as good as 'call n cry'/'qualify' nd 'more help'/'yourself' fuckouttahere, lmao

nd yeah, u write about me gettin lazy wit him...theres so much shit I coulda talked about but I tried ta take it easy cuz I aint think it would take much ta beat this dude :lol:
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oh, I aint notice this b4...
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"Punches: ...Neither, really....EIB was spittin them jiggsaw puzzle lines, all complicated & shit lol....Some of it was dope but some..nah. Tookie had sum ok shit but sum shit was played...Tookie got a lil bit of that fire, he just took EIB for granted; which is odd because EIB dropped first. *shrugs* oh well."

lmao I already explained this...dude was on some dirty ass shit, lol...he had his verse ready (cant deny that cuz he said it in 1 of the 1st posts) then he expected me ta write real quick nd he aint post his shit until I was already gettin ready 2 post mine (italicizin/adding explanations/etc)...so aint like I saw his verse then typed mine...or else u know he wouldnt a stood a chance, lmao
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^and what the fuck YOU smokin???! Did i say the complacent/saturation line was just as good? NO....get the sand outta ur fuckin eyes before u put words in my mouth. I said cry for help/disqualify yourself ain't that great of rhyme scheme either so don't knock his style because yours isn't flawless either....U took him for granted and he snuck up on you. PERIOD. I didn't see that post where he said he had prepared lines but that is really wak if that's the case... -_-
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^and what the fuck YOU smokin???! Did i say the complacent/saturation line was just as good? NO....get the sand outta ur fuckin eyes before u put words in my mouth. I said cry for help/disqualify yourself ain't that great of rhyme scheme either so don't knock his style because yours isn't flawless either....U took him for granted and he snuck up on you. PERIOD. I didn't see that post where he said he had prepared lines but that is really wak if that's the case... -_-

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lol no shit sherlock B)
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actually, i jus posted my verse, but ima wait for tookie to accept first.

^^...he had his verse prepared b4 I could even accept <_< lmao there, now I shouldnt have ta explain that again...

nd about my line, u stay gettin it twisted...

call n cry, 'more help'/
disqualify yourself//

shit seems flawless ta me...only way it could be any betta is if I rhymed somethin wit 'dis' but still his multis are non-existant so it dont really matter
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^^exactly...he doesn't have a chance in hell in the multi department....yoooo man i cant believe that shit was prepared *smh* dammit EIB..liar! lol....
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lmao notice how he neva addressed any of that the 1st time I called him on it...it was just Shy in here defendin him, lol...nd so like I said...

smh @ ppl thinkin me nd him are 'on the same level'...but I guess when he prepares somethin against me nd I write a quick verse ta make him happy, then theyre right :P
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i never defend anyone, he just stepped it up for it to be such a quick verse. But if it was prepared then i dunno...I'm sure u could've prepared sumthin hotter than that.
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yeah man...but yo, check out my new freestyle in my lil section or whateva...it was done yesterday afternoon, I dont really do e-drama or whateva so I just freestyled ta let it all out on record but dont get it twisted, I aint dedicate a whole freestyle ta these ppl, lmao...just threw a few bars at em at the end then had my lil talkin or whateva, lmao
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those sublims!!! haahah, that was a coo lil freestyle....u should've did that shit on a nas beat HAAHAH....good shit.
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haha thanks man
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Just for the record, no one is flawless. You can never reach the epitome.
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well...true. Nobody in audio is ever flawless, they can have their ups & downs....But when you're just txting...i've seen some flawless battles. Like punches,metas,multis,complexity,entertainment....it's possible in txt. The thing is that that rarely happens, no1 can be flawless in every battle.

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well...true. Nobody in audio is ever flawless, they can have their ups & downs....But when you're just txting...i've seen some flawless battles. Like punches,metas,multis,complexity,entertainment....it's possible in txt. The thing is that that rarely happens, no1 can be flawless in every battle.

exactly, u can be more creative with your lines in text than you can be in audio, in text the whole aim is to make people wanna read it all so if u got all them contents in your verse to spice it up then u know u got a successful text piece, but of course u gotta use them right and not just add them in for the fuck of it. Text is almost like spitting an acapella too because it dont matter how long your lines are as long as the rhymes are apparent, btu with making a track u gotta hit every beat so ur lines cant be long
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tru dat but this "text" battle finta turn inta a war, cant wait to see who wins :P
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EIB has really stepped up his game a notch and I like the big words, they're truly espressive when spittin', you get me.

My vote goes to: EIB - on the fact that his lyrics held far more substance lyrically.
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3-3 so i didnt lose this battle then.
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IF I can still vote, I'll vote for Tookie.
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You have to clearly explain your vote or it won't count.
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