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| Clubs - Yes? No?; Can a Christian go to Clubs? | |
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| Laurnie | Sep 21 2006, 06:43 AM Post #16 |
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Ok well i think it is very debatable and well, if u think it is non-debatable, why did u start this debate in the 1st place?? I just think people should respect each other opinions coz at the end of the day, as u said, we will be accountable only for ourselves before God and it is only Him we must answer to. As there is no-where in the Bible actually says, "Christians must not go to clubs," then through what we do read Christians must make that decision in the knowing that they can stand blameless before God. |
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| Kyle | Sep 21 2006, 03:34 PM Post #17 |
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Thanks lauren, you're totally right. Can we pleasssse respect each others opinions and [i]debate[/i], as opposed to arguing. Keep it cool guys! |
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| Duddy | Sep 23 2006, 06:08 PM Post #18 |
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Lol Lauren just because i do not think it is debatable does not mean that others do! |
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| Kyle | Sep 24 2006, 12:15 PM Post #19 |
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[QUOTE=Duddy,Sep 23 2006, 06:08 PM] Lol Lauren just because i do not think it is debatable does not mean that others do! [/QUOTE] Well that in itself is debateable.
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| Guest | Sep 26 2006, 08:46 PM Post #20 |
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2 Corinthians 6 v 14 & 17 "...for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" (v17) "Wherefore come out from among them and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thin; and i will receive you." I believe we should keep ourselves separate from such activities as I believe it is more of a witness that we follow Christ if we stay away than if we attend and simply do not drink. Also I think we should question our choices in relation to what Jesus would do and I fail to see any incidences in the Bible where Jesus would have entered the equivalent of a club. |
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| Guest | Sep 27 2006, 11:47 AM Post #21 |
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I would agree! We are not of this world! |
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| Kyle | Sep 27 2006, 03:11 PM Post #22 |
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[QUOTE=Guest,Sep 26 2006, 08:46 PM] I fail to see any incidences in the Bible where Jesus would have entered the equivalent of a club. [/QUOTE] He ate and drank with Matthew and his tax collector friends. He recieved heavy criticism for this from the Pharisees, but carried on nonetheless. |
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| Laurnie | Sep 27 2006, 04:26 PM Post #23 |
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Precisely!! We as Christians are not in the position to judge other Christians. As I've already said we will be accountable for ourselves only before God!! And yes i do agree tho that we arnt to be off this world, we are to be set apart, yet we cannot become detatched. Jesus interacted with everyone, prostitutes, drunks and the misfits. I dont think a club is the place 4 every Christian to be, bt it is up to them if they feel it is right and can resist the temptation of nething that is against God. |
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| beky777 | Sep 27 2006, 07:48 PM Post #24 |
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[QUOTE]He ate and drank with Matthew and his tax collector friends[/QUOTE] yes this is true, but hey i tlk to my non christian friends all the time n we have loads o fun!!! n i often hav oportunities to witness to them. but explain how when Jesus was sitting with sinners, equates with going to a nite club? Sitting chatting with non christian friends, more than likely sharing the Gospel, does not sound lik the situations in a nite club...i.e. dancing, and laughing at drunk people falling over. Look at the Early Church,and its phenomenal expansion!!! The early Christians separated themselves from public celebrations to the pagan gods...they didnt join the army, due to its links with pagan worship and emperor worship etc... When the early Church remained separated from wordly practises its growth was something never seen before! God clearly was well pleased with their practises and was blessing them in an amazing way! Yet when Constantine came to power and the Church became wealthy, people became more relaxed in their Christianity, often only claiming it due to parents...they joined in on worldly practises....Guess what happened???There was spiritual decline in the Church, its growth slowed dramatically!!!!!! Does this not clearly show us that God will bless our separtaion in the long run...even if we get a bit of stick for it?!?! We cannot deny the history of the Church...experience tells us a lot...separation brought blessing upon the Church! |
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| Guest | Sep 27 2006, 07:54 PM Post #25 |
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Laurnie you say that we should not judge. Yet in the Bible we are told to say to another Christian brother when they do something wrong... I mean look at Paul? All he did was scold other christians! |
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| Duddy | Sep 27 2006, 08:19 PM Post #26 |
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Anyway this is not about whether it is ok to go to clubs... Im talking about underage. Can someone tell me if it is illegal? Before the next preformal preferably! |
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| Kyle | Sep 27 2006, 08:43 PM Post #27 |
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[QUOTE=Duddy,Sep 27 2006, 08:19 PM] Anyway this is not about whether it is ok to go to clubs... Im talking about underage. Can someone tell me if it is illegal? Before the next preformal preferably! [/QUOTE] duddy you cant just change the question halfway through the debate lol. you never said anything about age in the original poll. And the next preformal will most likely be in the rugby club , which isnt a nightclub. And even though the las one was in a club, they were informed that under 18's would be coming and they allowed it. they opened the venue to underage folks for the purposes of the preformal. |
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| Kyle | Sep 27 2006, 08:45 PM Post #28 |
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[QUOTE]does not sound lik the situations in a nite club...i.e. dancing, and laughing at drunk people falling over.[/QUOTE] Why on earth would you go to a club to laugh at people falling over?! Christians especially wouldn't be doing that. [QUOTE] i tlk to my non christian friends all the time n we have loads o fun!!! n i often hav oportunities to witness to them.[/QUOTE] And think of how many more opportunities you could have if you socialised with them instead of simply "talking" to them. |
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| Guest | Sep 28 2006, 03:13 PM Post #29 |
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Kyle... The subject changed halfway thru the first page to underage. Dont blame Duddy! And plus just because the place of residence allows it does not mean that you should go... A sin commited by someone else does not mean you can! |
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| Laurnie | Sep 28 2006, 03:29 PM Post #30 |
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[QUOTE=Guest,Sep 27 2006, 07:54 PM] Laurnie you say that we should not judge. Yet in the Bible we are told to say to another Christian brother when they do something wrong... I mean look at Paul? All he did was scold other christians! [/QUOTE] Yes i dont think we should judge. Only God is our judge. I think what u mean is we ought to accepthelpful criticism. Psalm 141:5, "Let the righteous strike me, it shall be kindness; and let him rebuke me, It shall be as excellent oil. Let my head not refuse it. " I think this verse is very good. Its like as Christians we do make mistakes and we gota accept that when we do so. Fellow Christians are to help us when we fall, but it should all be positive rtaher than a scolding!! It all should be done with graciousness and respect. However before someone can give any type of critsicsm they mustfirst examine their own life and see if they are blameless before God. However i dont believe we are to JUDGE anyone. Read Matthew 7:1-6. The first verse says plain, "Judge not, that you be not judged." Read the rest of this pasage and then i think ul c wot i mean about not judging. |
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