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| Rachy | Dec 18 2006, 05:53 PM Post #16 |
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katakalupto used in verses 4 to 7 has the meaning of hide, conceal, cover. the opposite to this would be the word apokalupsis meaning unveiling. it was a covering for the head. this means covering and not the hair, because this takes away from everthing taught previosuly. the other word for covering used here is peribolaion and suggests nore a covering for the body so the long hair of the women was sufficient in abundance to cover part of the body. |
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| Guest | Dec 18 2006, 10:03 PM Post #17 |
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its always great to c visitors in to church n no matter wat they wearin they shud be welcomed... but wen i a person comes to Christ they shud fully and humbly bow the knee and live thier life as best they can in accordance to God's will, in other words wearin head coverin n respectable clothes in God's house etc. |
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| Laurnie | Dec 18 2006, 10:28 PM Post #18 |
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ok well in my church, ppl do tend to get dressed, women in skirts generally and hats and men in suits. I think if ur a Christian you should go to church in a respectable manner, neat and tidy yet anyone should be welcomed, like ouvisitors shudnt be judged for coming in their everyday clothes. As for hats, although the ladies in my church wears hats i dont think its necessary. Although i see them verses uv pointed to before. Bt i feel that was for that time. I mean back then a womens haor was her pride and joy, it was covered as not to daw attention to herself from men. So there4 nowadays wud it not be a bit hyposcritcal coming to church in a belt(as a skirt) and a hat. I mean that is drawing attention to urself 4 the wrong reasons. Also i have an agruement 4 wearing everyday clothes as well. Right say ur gna meet ur friend at their house, ur not gna get all dressed up to see them so If ur a follower of Jesus, u are his frind and should be comfortable wearing watever. Bt then again respect and all, i reckon ppl shud make an effort bt not dress in a way that will draw attention to themselves for the wrong reasons.!! |
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| Rachy | Dec 19 2006, 02:36 PM Post #19 |
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i disagree that it was purely for that time, u cant say that, it is a doctrine, we cant choses which to obey and what not to. also a belt? the womens dress was to be modest, this meant it was long,losse fitting and did not show of her body. the hair of a women is her pride and joy, therefore it should be long. there is to be a distinction between man and woman, it is unhonourable to God for men to likewise have long hair. and if i was going casual to a frineds then to church, id bring clothes with me to change into, but id explainthis to my friend and wouldnt make themn uncomfortable,understand? its albout how you are with thses things, not show offy or anything, but sticking to what you believe in a humble manner. |
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| PhilyG | Dec 19 2006, 02:48 PM Post #20 |
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We should dress modestly and holy because we are going into the presence of a three times holy God and he demands holiness and reverence. We should not be wearing anything that shows the sin of the world or anything that is really casual and that would take away form the holiness of God. If we were on a visit to the Queen we would be respectfully dressed, how much more important is God, so we should be respecting him and come dressed suitably, also, wearing things that don't show offence of bring attention to ones self as this is not what people go to church for to see other people but rather to be in Gods presence and worship him. The matter about different countries should also be taken into account but that is another issue. Head covering is a major and fundamental doctrine of the New testament and shows that the woman is obeying Gods law and will and covering up her glory(hair). This has already been stated earlier very well. Phil |
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| Laurnie | Dec 19 2006, 05:58 PM Post #21 |
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Tell me sumwer in the Bible which says a womens hair shud be long?? Im not trying to argue bt nower can i find that a womens hair is to be long. Plus wot i was saying was one cannot be a hypocrite n b like ok il wear my hat and then wear a wee tiny skirt. Thats all im saying. |
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| huggy | Dec 19 2006, 08:02 PM Post #22 |
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help yourself to my msn, it'll be nice talkin to new people
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rite just readin through these and ders a point that phili made about the queen. Now i'm sorry to say it but i would not do anything different to the queen, mabey i would be forced to, but the queen should be as humble as the rest of us. And that means we should treat her no differently. Sorry i know this sounds bad, but it really quite troubling me. |
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| alibi | Dec 19 2006, 11:04 PM Post #23 |
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ok so we should come to God with respect and humility and without drawing attention to ourselves? did i get the jist of the last couple of posts? see to be.. coming to church in our finest..ie our suits, skirts and hats we only wear once a week and cost so much shows off more than trotting in wearing clothes we feel comfortable in. sometimes it feels like, and ive seen it in so many churches....a fashion show of looks whos wearing what, its now more of a social thing than one of respect. im not saying dont go dressed up, dont go in suits, tbh i chose i dont care in the poll coz i really dont give a monkeys! the point im trying to make i guess is go in what your comfortable with! if thats a skirt so be it, but if its jeans and a shirt or jeans and a jumper, or motorbike leathers then fair play! each to their own! and on the point about seeing the queen and it being the same as meeting with God. i disagree! the queen is someone to be held in respect and regaurd, as someone high up and better due to a social standing, someone who is only to be spoken to after she has spoken to you. God i see so much more differently. I see someone i can talk to when im in tears, someone i can talk to when im bleeding, someone i can talk to when im naked or clothed, out walking, swimming, in jeans, in a suit, in a formal dress, in a hat, covered in mud.. i see a God who came to earth to meet with us, wear the same as us, eat the same as us, face the same as us and walk the same paths we walk. i see a Father i can run to and who will hold me and love me nomatter what.. and that will never change. so nomatter if it is a sunday or a tuesday.. its what we have on the inside, our hearts and our souls that matter. |
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| huggy | Dec 19 2006, 11:12 PM Post #24 |
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help yourself to my msn, it'll be nice talkin to new people
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ok i agree der that we can wear what we want. But the queen thing is still bothering me. |
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| alibi | Dec 20 2006, 12:33 AM Post #25 |
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oh i agree!
wouldnt u love to just walk into a meeting in what youd wear off the street.. just to see what would happen?
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| Rachy | Dec 21 2006, 01:54 PM Post #26 |
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ahhh i get ye ow laurnie,sorry,lol, i got confused bout the mini skirt thing.yup,i agree,but i wear both, head covern and skirt, i agree its e=wrong to have one and not the other,ur rite that wud by hypocritcial. i think you read bout long hair in corinthians 11. iv been thinkn about the meetn queen thing. she is another human being and is no differnet in that respect, but i would respect her. thing is, wot i feel is important here is that its important for US NOT to change,like start to be posh and not ourselves,no what i mean? im the same silly ole goofy me and id lke the queen to respect that about me to and not feel iv to change to meet her. that make sense? alibis also right, we cant compare her and God, an all powerful GOD who is omnipresent and who made us all
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| huggy | Dec 21 2006, 08:27 PM Post #27 |
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help yourself to my msn, it'll be nice talkin to new people
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Like i mean i would still respect the queen and all, i just thinks its wrong that we idolise her. As she does have different rights to us, which i believe is the wrong part. Read more about dis in my topic on social status!! |
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| beky777 | Dec 21 2006, 10:04 PM Post #28 |
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riteo i dnt understand y women today kick up a hole big stink bout havin to wear a skirt or hat to church n dey moan bout how uncomfortable it is etc etc...ive heard it all before. But see wen they go to a wedding well ya no dats a different story, we can go getthe skirt out n da big fancy hats(which i dnt agree wit) n ders not a bit o botha!! its lik dis, God yes whilst He is the friend who sticketh closer than a brother, He aint jus u random buddy n pal. God demands more respect and humility from us. We are filthfy, dirty, vile, sinners, which is absoloutely repulsive in the sight of righteous n holy God, yet God commended His love towards us. for this reason i think He deserves all the honour and glory and respect, we insignificant humans can manage. Also the comment on how hats were jus for that time, that is such a vague statement! Reformation churches are based on the fact that they use the Inspired Word of God, and nothing else. If ur jus gonna decide that a certain part of the Bible is outdated then that gives way for someone who believes that maybe the doctrine of Christs redeeming love is outdated! We cannot jus pick and choose wat we like from the Bible. Also no one said u hav to get dresed up for church whether its a skirt or not. Jus a casual (long and decent lookin) skirt n any kind of head covering is acceptable. If u have the means and the ability to dress appropriatly wen comin into God's presence then do so. Som say money is the caus of all evil, Personally i tink its pride! Think bout it, the pride that came over Eve in the garden of Eden wen she realised the abilities she cud have. By rejecting Christ we are being proud! By failing to submit to the will of God (ie hats n skirts) we are showing pride! |
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| huggy | Dec 22 2006, 12:27 AM Post #29 |
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there were a few points there i disagreed with. Firstly when your talking about us being 'vile and dirty', i take it your talkin about our hearts, not our appearance. And are you saying that because you can afford something you should wear it, God demands respect, yess, but respect is not turning out in your best cloths to church, it is knowing what God wants from you, ie. to accept him and love him with all your heart. And God loves us all the same, no matter what cloths we wear. So my point is that as long as your reasons are right, for coming to church, then i can't find anything wrong with it. |
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| jonny2shoes | Dec 22 2006, 08:11 PM Post #30 |
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jesus didnt say 'Love the lord with all your heart all your mind and all your clothes' now did he. God sees deeper than just clothes and skin. Yes of corse you could wear the best clothes of the day but if we try too hard to impress others (or God for that matter), we will forget what God is really looking out for... our HEARTS and our LIVES!!!!!! |
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wouldnt u love to just walk into a meeting in what youd wear off the street.. just to see what would happen?
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8:16 AM Jul 11