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Do you think it is okay for Christians to divorce?
Yes, it's always okay- all good things come to an end 1 (11.1%)
Only in the case of adultery 7 (77.8%)
Never 1 (11.1%)
Total Votes: 9
Divorce; Yay or nay?
Topic Started: Mar 9 2007, 03:37 PM (299 Views)
Kyle
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Here's a few brief notes and the Bible passages that Adrian McCartney used in his talk

WDTBSA Divorce…. Adrian McCartney

Passages of reference…
Genesis 2 : v23-24
23 The man said, ?"This is now bone of my bones ?and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman, ' for she was taken out of man." 24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

i.e. here is the idea of “leaving” your family, and “cleaving”, by exchanging marriage vows in public.

In Genesis, the comparison between the parent-child relationship and marriage can be seen.e.g.
• Physical i.e. giving birth, sex
• Social – Family, then starting a new family

Deuteronomy 24:v1-4
1 If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, 2 and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, 3 and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, 4 then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the LORD. Do not bring sin upon the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance.

Matthew 19: 3-10
1When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.
3Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?"
4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female, 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? 6So they are no longer two, but one. [b]Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."[/b]
7"Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?"
8Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9[b]I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."[/b]
10The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry."

Matthew 5: v27-32
27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

Divorce
31"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce. 32But I tell you that[b] anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.[/b]

So Jesus clearly outlined that divorce should not occur in any circumstance other than marital unfaithfulness.
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Gareth H
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The Bible makes itself fairly crystal on this issue. I had never heard the bit about being able to marry again if your spouse ups sticks due to your Christianity. Makes perfect sense.



Isn't God great!?
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i think divorce is ok.. under specific circumstances! for example i think a woman or man is perfectly intitled to ask for a divroce and walk out if they are being physically, emotionally or mentally abused at home! no one should suffer that!
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^was me! gah!! i must stop doing this!! thats twice in one day now!!
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Kyle
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Yes but the Bible specifically says that divorce is wrong in all cases except for adultery- can we really pick and choose what we want to abide by from the Bible? Some of it's laws are harsh but surely all have to be stuck to.
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so you would expect someone to roll over and say "go on there... hit me again and put some effort into it!" ?? you cannot possibly tell me that divorcing someone who abuses you is wrong simply coz they havent cheated on you with someone else... im sorry but thats a horrible thing to ask. i suppose it brings it round to how sacred marriage is and how you should respect each other and treat each other like you would also like treated... but unfortunately this is the real world and that doesnt happen!
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When a man makes a vow to the LORD or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said. (Numbers 30 v 2 )

"Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband" (Ephesians 5:20-33).

Anyone who breaks their marriage vows has disobeyed God's law. The Bible does seem to put an emphasis on finding fault in a woman in a marital relationship, but in the past, although subservient to a degree, women were respected by their husbands because of the work they did in raising the family and running the household. Abuse shows an absence of respect for the other person and an utter disregard for God's teaching. I believe that, in order to protect your own safety and possibly the safety of your children, it is better to sever that holy bond. Surely asserting power through abuse is the complete opposite of showing the greatest form of love by being willing to lay down your life for others, when you are instead willing to lay down the lives of others for yourself? Surely being subjected to a life with any form of marital abuse is like a life sentence - to have to live without life?
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i totally agree rachel! it is better to cut your loses and run as far as you can.. plus if someone abuses you they have broken the bond first! although.. again as with so many things.. alot of christians will appear and say nomatter what it is always wrong.. i think too many of us live by the guidelines so rigidly that we miss the point, the Bible is a living book, meant to be applied to live.. meant to be applied to different situations!

if anyone can tell me a direct reference in the Bible of "can a woman or man divorce their husband or wife on the grounds of abuse" i will be rightly impressed! i dont think there is such a passage.. yet it happens.. so what do u do?
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i think all this stresses and emphasises how important and sacred the marriage bond is and isnt something to be entered upon lightly. also, in a christian marraige, id like to think there are few such extreme experiences of physically abuse. it is scriptural to separate but not to remarry or enter into another relationship. the bible stresses unity with one person while u are alive. as fro adultry, even men in the bible who had adultrous wives (i cant mind his name, end of OT) Kept bringing his wife back to him even. though she was basically a prostitute.
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so what if you marry the wrong person .. he beats you up.. and you fall in love with someone else.. what do u do? spend your life without them or do you stay with them never marry but live together ... or do you get married?
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i always thought, and i stand to be corrected, but if the other person can without a shadow of doubt be proved to be the one in error in the relationship and caused the realtionsihp to end, then the innocent party could get remarried again. but maybe im wrong

As for marrying the wrong person, i think if your a Christian in particular before you marry, well, i believe if your living your life according to the Will of God, you wont marry the wrong person.
But if someone is beating you up, obviously you cant be on for that, and the other person should run the opposite way sooo quickly!
And i dont think its right to live with someone outside of marriage.

Sooo to some it all up, before you get married pray sooo much about it and know wat your doing
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:D good way of puttin it.

i must admit that was me who voted that divorce is always wrong but i admit ive been swayed. maybe its just the issue of remarryin which i think it TOTALLY wrong (mayb with the exception of a death of 1 of them) - thats adultery and is forbidden time and time again in the Bible. I still think divorce is wrong, and ur more likely 2 remarry or commit adultery if u become devorced.

some1 mentionned about an OT prophet who kept loyal 2 his disloyal wife. Great example! that was Hosea. God actually told him 2 marry a prostitute! and surprise surprise she kept runnin off with loadsa men yet Hosea stayed loyal 2 her, no matter wot and the marriage didnt break!
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There's no middle ground on this poll.

I dont think all good things come to an end but sometimes things just dont work out, people grow apart, things become a real struggle and divorce really is the best option.

Nobody should have to stay in a marriage if they are truly unhappy in and children should never have to be subjected to the anger and hate associated with marriage breakdowns especially not over long periods of time.

In a perfect world, it wouldnt happen but it does and nobody should feel trapped in their marriage.
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ok so i know that divorce is ok due to adultery but what of one of the partners is beating the other one up. im sorry but it would probs be the man but can you divvorce.. i mean according to the Bible the answer is no because they havent been unfaithful so what do other people think??? i guess i kinda answered my own question alittle bit there but i stil would like to hear what other people say! :D

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well i think divorce wud be ok i sucha situation, but perhaps the question shud be, shud these two have gotten married in the first place??
The Bible amazing in guiding us in our lives and altho it doesnt mention this circumstance i think no one shud have to endure such pain. The Bible also doesnt mention wat are to be done with those who prey on innocent children etc. so common sense comes into the equation.
The fact is however that often times divorce can be granted for pretty small things. I dnt think the question shud be about divorce, but more to do with the fact that we no marriage is sacred and perhaps people shud spend more time makin sure marriage is wat they shud be doin. The problem is marriage no longer has anythin to do with God in most cases, its more convience, or becus its the done thing, or becus we want the enjoyment of a wedding, or often for financial reasons. The state has taken God out of the equation, marriage and the marriage vows are no longer sacred. There jus some words about commitment. i think thats where the real problem lies.
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