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Topic Started: Nov 7 2007, 05:54 PM (156 Views)
Naomi
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Ok there was a couple of posts in christmas about homosexuality, and the rights of homosexual people. That got me thinking... (a dangerous thing I know!!)

Have we gone rights mad?? Eg if a homosexual couple want to get married in a church the minister can't say no because they are homosexual, if he does the couple can sue him, because it is there right. But what about the minister? is anyone thinking about his right to follow his religion? the Bible clearly states that a marage should be between a man and a woman not 2 men or 2 women.

I'm not having an attack on gay people here just felt that this was a good example (however it is still wrong.)
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I am still new to this whole Christian thing and i will probably get shot for this but i don't have a problem with homosexuality and i think they should have the right to get married and adopt and i think its great. BUT DONT SHOOT ME JUST YET!!!

I do think that they should get married through a governmental style thing (cant remember what its called) If it is against the Christian beliefs they shouldn't he able to get married in a church and should do it a more official way.

*Hides in case he is attacked*
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Naomi
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Homosexual people can not get married - they can enter a civil partenership though. The Bible says that homosexuality is wrong. Look at sodom and gomorah (sp???) it was completely destroyed!!
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*looks blankly at her*

Erm look at where? *pulls out manga bible and flicks through*
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Naomi
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Gen ch 19. - note that the angels are men
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absolutely true. completly agree, in my opinion, the rights of the few, are being pitted against the right of the majority to disagree, is it not a right to be able to disagree? to have ones own opinion? or should we all conform and agree completly with the sheer brilliance of Dear Mr Gordon Brown, and all of his puppets.... *cringes at the sheer volume of sarcasm* :( :blink:
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Just to confirm what Naomi has said here are a few more passages:
Romans 1:27-32
"`If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.



Exodus 22:19 (English-NIV)
(New King James Version) "Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due... knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them."


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Yeah i am not taking part in this anymore lol

*danders off to another section of the forums*
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oops i didnt mean 2 send that yet :P

Exodus 22:18 (English-NIV)
Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.

In other words God does not tollerate the practice of homosexualtiy.

i think that so much of the problems stem from the european court of human rights and we are ostrishised for not obeying it and permitting 'equality' hah!
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i dont approve... for the record.

but we'll definately be attacked by the court of human rights if news of this on the forum gets widespread... the use of intimidation and fear to control.... gotta hate it!


i'm going to go an get some breakfast....

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um i agree that gay people can be joined in a civil ceremony if thats what they wish, yes we may think its wrong but what about those who have no intention of ever stopping or becoming a christian? i dont think its fair that their rights are taken away and get hit harder financially etc etc when theyre just in love. plus is it not better to be joined and have a firmer ground to fit off temptation rather to just go with someone, then go with another and another.... etc etc...
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The foundation of a marriage should be built on more than just the feelings of two people - God should be at the centre of that relationship. No relationship can have longevity without God at the centre of it all. When a couple take their marital vows in the wedding ceremony they make a promise before God based on God's laws. How can a gay couple base their promise of a life-long partnership on God's laws? Isn't a civil partnership or the French idea of PACs (where unmarried couples can have similar rights as married couples, with a few restrictions, on signing a contract) just pushing the boundaries of what a marriage is? Why do people, regardless of sexual orientation, desire to marry on a whim when it is becoming increasingly regarded as a temporary state? I just cannot agree with you on this one. That goes for gay adoption as well (if you look in the archived debates I've stated my case there - can't be bothered to type it all out again!)
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there was never the sheer quantity of Gay people that there seems to be now... it's slightly disconcerting. is the number increasing? certainly the quantity of those of questionable sexual orientation appears to be increasing on the television... is it a fashion? now there's a question
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its society being so open now to everything... its the same as underage sex, sex out of marriage, murder, rapes... etc etc.. we're on a downhill spiral!

God should be at the centre of christian marriages yes.. but what about those who dont believe in God? should lthey not be allowed to get married then and just .. well 'get married' but in a civil building?
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Lets look at it another way - would you rather a child be brought up by 2 mothers/fathers who love them to bits, or be brought up by a mother and a father who are going to abuse them??

Alibi what you have to remember is that some people have absolutly no intention of becoming a christian, and dont even believe in God. But that can change God can move in their lives and change them just like he can with anyone else.

Im not exactly sure that I would say that there are necessary alot more homosexual people, I think that it all comes down to tollerance society as a whole tollerate homosexuality and therefore people are more open if they are homosexual.
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