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| Condeming..; what can you ay is wrong? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 26 2008, 10:15 PM (120 Views) | |
| huggy | Feb 26 2008, 10:15 PM Post #1 |
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help yourself to my msn, it'll be nice talkin to new people
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basically... the topic description... what can you say is wrong.. because we can't condem people... because we do not have that authority... but we know when things are wrong... we can warn etc.. but when does warning turn into condeming?.. like if you believe something is wrong.. and someone else thinks it is right.. you can say in you're opinion it is wrong.. but can you say, 'it is wrong'?.. more random thinkling... don't take this topic too seriously... its just a wee sidewinder... from another one... just really to see if people have been thinking about this? |
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| beky777 | Feb 27 2008, 08:19 PM Post #2 |
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Really addicted to the forum!!!
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well to be honest i htin u can full on say some people are jsut plain wrong becus if we continue with this airy fairyness of 'in my opinuion' it becomes crazy PC rubbish! e.g the chair has four legs....some otha (sumwhat crazed person says) no its only got two....but if jus plain fact that thye chair has four legs then u can say no ur wrong the chair has four legs. Plus how can we present the gospel message without saying somethings are wrong?? someone who has never experienced the new birth, but claim sto be a Christian or sumone hu says yea im a Christian but i follow the Hindu faith etc etc. It doesnt work!!! so i think as Christina we needa stop being so timid about or faith, its not a matter of opinion if we are Christ's, it is what we believe and if we believe then its just plain right, other humanist efforts to God are wrong....sounds harsh but that the way it is. Plus i see the whole issue of dont condemn coming from, "judge not lest ye be judged for by what judgement ye judge ye shall be judged." the last part is often left out but it is important. nyways i think the idea here is more dont have a judgemental attitude as the Pharisees had but we aint to be doormats!!! we gotta fight the good fight n get the Gospel message across!!! Also Jesus had perfect liberty to 'condemn' He even called the Pharisees vipers at one stage. Paul in mnay of His letters is criticising the Churches for allowing other doctrines etc to innfiltrate so i mean i think the key htiing is not to have a judgemental attitude, or a condemning attitude, but stand up for what u believ in! |
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| huggy | Feb 27 2008, 09:56 PM Post #3 |
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help yourself to my msn, it'll be nice talkin to new people
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thanks.. great reply... i have to agree.. sometimes being more 'sticter' is only right.. no sense fooling people of our beliefs... or making it seem less bad if you wern't to believe.... bitta waffle there.. you might get what i mean:P =] |
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| alibi | Feb 28 2008, 10:13 AM Post #4 |
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Really addicted to the forum!!!
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yeah i get it what youre both saying but there is a huuuuuge difference between condemning and advising, suggesting your own opinion. whats the verse about the splinter and the plank in your own eye! its not up to us, we can only present our values and our ideas but we cannot force them on others.. like if people want to go out and get drunk; you can only encourage not to, you cannot say "NOO!!! that is wrong and you will burn in hell for it!" everyones faith, soul and body is between them and God, not between them, then us and then God. we can ony try to guide, not condemn because we have no right |
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| Naomi | Feb 28 2008, 08:23 PM Post #5 |
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Nemo
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I agree with everyone, for a change!!! I feel that it is important that people know if they are doing something wrong and I dont see any thing against telling them that they are wrong. However the way you tell them that they are wrong has to be done right (if that makes any sense). EG if a kid does something they are told not to do they are told off, but they still know that their parents love them no matter what they do. It has to be the same with us people have to know that we are going to tell them the truth but that we still love them (agape love _just thought id clarify that) because that is what Jesus did yes the woman who committed adultery was wrong - she knew it but Jesus still showed her compassion we have to do the same thing!! Love the sinner hate the sin. |
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| huggy | Feb 28 2008, 11:05 PM Post #6 |
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help yourself to my msn, it'll be nice talkin to new people
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well answered guys... =] |
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| Revive | Feb 29 2008, 05:42 PM Post #7 |
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Really addicted to the forum!!!
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It's so true. |
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| jonny2shoes | Feb 29 2008, 07:29 PM Post #8 |
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resident waffler
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yep. Everything is getting very PC lately, our faith shouldn't follow!! Its a black or white thing.. no grey areas (lol someone could call that last statement racist discrimination :rolleyes: ) |
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| alibi | Mar 3 2008, 10:06 AM Post #9 |
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Really addicted to the forum!!!
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there are grey areas though... hence why this forum is here for debates
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| huggy | Mar 3 2008, 12:01 PM Post #10 |
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help yourself to my msn, it'll be nice talkin to new people
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although should Christians be worried about debates.. debates are opinionated, and this is because we all get different messages from the Bible... although i think a far better use of time would be to help the poor, and do good.. or come up with ideas to stop world poverty, and to stop world hunger... and to encourage one-another... just me thoughts.. =] |
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