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Prolife or Prochoice; which are you for?
Topic Started: Dec 6 2006, 11:56 AM (1,139 Views)
HitsugayaFan
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I, personally, am pro-life.

That is all.
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UnNegi-relatedname,Apr 18 2008
08:07 PM
I could reciprocate and say I don't give a shit whether it's a life or not. It'd be a life within my hands. Logically, it would be my decision. And should I deem it necessary, I'll 'kill' it.


I also can say mind your own business. If you want to go ahead and not get an abortion, than go ahead. I don't care.

It makes me sick when I have these people saying "a life is a life, no matter what". A life is a life, and when it's living inside me, I can kill it whenever I choose.

Sure everyone has the choice to kill other people, but just because it lives inside doesn't make less of murder. If you wanna be a murderer, go ahead, just don't try to defend it by making lame excuses.
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please point out my 'lame excuse'
I'm interested to see what you think it is.
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I suppose it's a subjective topic in the sense that individual circumstances play a key role in deciding whether on should be allowed to abort or not. I don't believe that one should ever cause more harm to a baby. If you are a teenager who doesn't want a child, and you'd probably end up disregarding it's well being anyway, and thus, what is the point of having the baby.

I don't like the concept if killing things at all, but if it is done out of remorse and good intent, then do it. You'll probably never hear the words "good intent" and "kill" in the same sentence, but through abortion, it's essentially what we are doing.

Sure, you could call yourself a murderer. But that's just making yourself sound worse than you are. But remember, if you did bring them into your world, you would be murdering their life in a whole other way.

I suppose the less evil way to deal with this is to give birth and give it up for adoption. That seems the only reasonable thing to do to keep both the pro-life and pro-choice people happy.
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UnNegi-relatedname,Apr 19 2008
07:46 AM
please point out my 'lame excuse'
I'm interested to see what you think it is.

That because the person exists inside "you" it's okay for you to end his/her life
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Silas, if you were less grammar deficient, I'd be able to have a better debate with you.
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Well he does speak English as a second language.
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UnNegi-relatedname,Apr 20 2008
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Silas, if you were less grammar deficient, I'd be able to have a better debate with you.

??? Are you having problems understanding this sentence "That because the person exists inside "you" it's okay for you to end his/her life" or did you just realize your attempt to justify your opinion failed?

As for the sentence, is it the lack of a comma that's fubaring it up for you, or are you just illiterate?
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Zaroff,Apr 20 2008
08:19 AM
Well he does speak English as a second language.

´Silas,Apr 20 2008
03:11 PM
??? Are you having problems understanding this sentence "That because the person exists inside "you" it's okay for you to end his/her life" or did you just realize your attempt to justify your opinion failed?

As for the sentence, is it the lack of a comma that's fubaring it up for you, or are you just illiterate?


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Right.

Well, I agree with Raine's point of view here, as well as a couple of the other members. One thing that hasn't been clearly stated yet - I think - is if the the baby itself is healthy enough.

Imagine this scenario: a baby is coming. You and your partner are both happy and this is what you wanted. But, you find out that the child will be handicapped. He/she won't be a healthy baby, and he/she will constantly have to struggle with this... "defect" that he/she was born with. Will probably get angsty when they're a teenager. Hell, kids are mean. So mean they don't realise it. If they see something "unique" in their peers that they see as weird, they will tease them about it. Could lead to excessive bullying. So on so forth. Don't even get me started on adulthood (can't think of anything right now/far too fucking lazy for that).

Would you save your unborn baby of that pain?

If you choose not to, would you be able to continue to love your handicapped baby like any other perfectly healthy child? Many parents do become increasingly stressed, trying to take care of children like this. Would they be able to stay together? What if something happens to you, and your child is left on their own? (Plus other stuff that effects every kid).

So, I ask you again. If you had the choice to save your child from that potential suffering, would you? They may turn out to be a good person in the end. Just like they may turn out to be a bad person. What would you choose?
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´Silas,Apr 20 2008
10:11 AM
??? Are you having problems understanding this sentence "That because the person exists inside "you" it's okay for you to end his/her life" or did you just realize your attempt to justify your opinion failed?

As for the sentence, is it the lack of a comma that's fubaring it up for you, or are you just illiterate?

I genuinely did not understand you.

And from that, we're striding away from the main point.

Now let me reply to your statement as I see it.

- That Because the person exists inside "you", it's okay for you to end his/her life -

And yes. It is okay.
Because first off, I'm not going to rip open my genitals to give life to another.
Maybe you would, okay fine. But don't tell me I should.

I'm not anti-life, I'm just pro-choice.

And as I said before. Go mind your own business. You won't be stopping me from having an abortion should I choose it.

And @ Sir Meh:

It would be illegal to have an abortion once you are able to tell your baby will be handicapped.
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Oh yea, and then you have religion playing a role in those Pro-life fanatics.

For future reference, I'm an 150% atheist. I step over the boundaries of not believing, and enter the state of mind where I believe it is a cancer in our world.

And I'm the chemo.
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Chemo?
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UnNegi-relatedname,Apr 20 2008
07:17 PM
And @ Sir Meh:

It would be illegal to have an abortion once you are able to tell your baby will be handicapped.

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Law aside, you didn't answer my question.
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Zaroff,Apr 20 2008
02:48 PM

This Chemo
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aigu92,Apr 14 2008
06:06 PM
I'm pro-life.

I hate when people say "Abortion is okay, because a woman should be able to choose what she wants to do with her body."

Okay, then shouldn't suicide be legal? Shouldn't all illegal drugs be made legal? Shouldn't twelve-year-olds be able to have sex and drink tons of alcohol?

Just because it's your body, it doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want with it. Are you allowed to strap yourself with explosives and go on an airplane filled with passengers? The previously stated excuse is the dumbest I've heard in a while.

@Rark: I think I have the right to decide that I'm going to murder my English teacher. Izzat so simple?

suicide is illegal? are they gunna punish you if you commit suicide?Put you in jail for it?
Illegal drugs are illegal, but people still do them cuz they want to
some 12 year olds can do that, it's just about how they were raised

soo basically you can do what you want with your body if you choose to.

and about the explosives, you can do that, but it's discouraged, cuz you'll kill others.

Actually, yeah. Suicide is illegal. They can't punish you for it (obviously), but it's nonetheless illegal.

And it's not about how the 12-year-old was raised! It's illegal all throughout America to have sex unless you're 18 or over!

And I know people do illegal drugs, so your point on illegal drugs was blatantly obvious.

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and about the explosives, you can do that, but it's discouraged, cuz you'll kill others.


I lol'd like crazy. Do you live under a rock?! Bringing explosives on a plane is discouraged, but it's also insanely illegal. If anyone even sees you with explosives on a plane, you'd probably go to jail for the rest of your life.

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UnNegi: A life is a life, and when it's living inside me, I can kill it whenever I choose.

I can't wait for the day when you see how sick and narcissistic a person you are. Yes, a little bit of joking around is okay, but you're going way over the top with how God-like you are. I mean, there comes a point when being so obsessed with yourself is not only highly irritating, but unhealthy.
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