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Borders...; I know... Sounds weird but makes sense.
Topic Started: Feb 21 2007, 05:24 PM (276 Views)
Asril_Mertos
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It's been awhile since I've been in this section...While I was playing Ace Combat Zero the other day something one of the characters said struck me... "... What has borders given us?" Really, what have borders given us? What is their purpose? Do they serve to seperate us and be used by leaders to gain control of their people? Or do they serve to protect us from foreign invaders? Post your thoughts...
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Alucard
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I think that borders are a product of our primitive side

in recent times, humans have gained the ability to function on logic-a more profound side of ourselves, and for that reason, we overestimate ourselves(and in the same fashion, underestimate and doubt ourselves because of it)

even though our minds have evolved to the point of being able to descern our actions, our brain weren't re-wired to suit, and we still operate with primal instincts(it also makes us blame ourselves for accidents we think we have control over when our instincts take over)

It's the same for animals(just take a good look at how territorial wolves are)

In fact, such things are also the cause of racism, sexism, homophobia, the economic class system that puts people on the streets and basically every social problem we have(politics always asks why we don't deal with these problems as though we're above such things, what with all our wealth and power in the west; no we're not above these problems)

Blame our imperfect brains for borders, and our arrogance in thinking we can do otherwise(ya ever heard the old saying:"The only thing seperating us from the tank our pet lizard lives in is these weird looking stubs on our palms that we call thumbs")
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Asril_Mertos
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sad that noone else wants to join us... but i think borders are a product of mankind's need to point out clearly what is "theirs."
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FuckAss
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the product of borders are both primative as well a necisity of need.

if you think about it, the need of borders is well founded.

people have different ideals on how to live. look at the condition of the UN nothing cant get anything done because so many countries have different ideas on how to work on one situation.

I mean if there was no borders thehn that would force every country to abide by rules of a general purpose.

that would put a fit to all thouse countries that are heavily religious to discard their ways and to moderize rapidly. It would also destory the economic spread due to the redistrubution of wealth.


so for the majority its the product of a need 'now' but soon there will be a time when all differences can be put aside to actually become one.
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Gafgar Adolis
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This twisted game needs to be reset. We'll start over from "Zero" with this V2 and entrust the future to the next generation.
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Asril_Mertos
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Hehehe... I remember that... " "Neither nations nor nationalities have any meaning. We will erase these unnecessary borders." I do think they have a point though... Borders when you really think of it are just products of human selfishness and greed... Unless we desire change borders will always exist....
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Alucard
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the things is, all those different languages and customs are merely products of our primative behavior; even wolf packs fight with other wolf packs

maybe I say this too often, but every peice of our flaws can somehow be traced back to our emotions, inteligence and opinions

The sad thing is, our primative side is commanding it all and is using it for bad

It's quite an interesting paradox, isn't it?

our primative side is the source of our greed and selfishness but it's also our savior. Our emotions, opinions and inteligence add fuel to a very deadly flame(because animals would do exactly as we do if they had what we have)

the will to make borders comes from our primative side but the ability to go through with it comes from the other aspects that seperate us from the animals(who ever said we should be seperated? That would just make us imperfect)
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Borders are a glaring admission that a single world government is only a pipe dream. As long as there are humans, there’ll be nations. I see nations as a good thing, though. Borders have a plus side: They protect the diversity of nations. We do things our way, and you do things your way. If one nation makes fatal errors that lead to its decline, borders prevent other nations from being dragged down into the failing nation’s mess.

One thing that should be global, though, is the Internet. While each nation should have its own culture, it should also have a way of finding out different ways of solving problems, and it can learn from the successes of other nations through the Internet.
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Regalar
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Oh, there's a day coming for that one-world government...

On a more on-topic note, I think borders are a good idea. Otherwise (as Zyozyoma said) the decline of one country could drag many others right along with it. Plus, having governments to keep each other in check is always nice.
I don't really follow that whole primitive brain thing but I guess that's just because I don't believe evolution. My own theory is that people are suspicious of others around them outside of a group. Each group then makes a boundry so as to provide a means of denying access to those who are undesireable to that group. In this case, the group is the country and other countries' citizens are the possible undesireables.
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EnKaYoot
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Borders give us a sense of order really, plus man has a thing with marking their territory without peeing on it.
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