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| andrewshen123 | Mar 3 2007, 08:08 PM Post #16 |
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I'm about where you are with Japanese... On top of that I obviously know English, am okay in French (due to being Canadian), can understand spoken Chinese (Mandarin), but can only read, write and speak the basics, and I may be learning Italian next year, as it is one of my alternatives if I don't get my first choice. In short, I like languages :P. |
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| Southrop | Mar 4 2007, 01:48 AM Post #17 |
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Okay. I've also mastered English, along with some French (which i learnt for 3 years), along with basic phrases of Japanese (which i forgot to mention in previous post, due to learning for 2 years) and i can speak fluently in Mandarin, write and read OK in Mandarin, Speak badly in cantonese. I can also swear in German (only one word tho XD) and i could learn some from my dad. In short, i DON'T like languages, but i still know many :lol: |
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| Jette | Mar 4 2007, 01:10 PM Post #18 |
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The only prob I have with my learning in Japanese is I dont get the grammar placment. like why is Desu at the end of a sentance instead of where it should be? and what exactly is Wa? I know its a particle but what is a particle? Hey anyone wanna teach me :D ? |
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| andrewshen123 | Mar 4 2007, 01:33 PM Post #19 |
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A particle is a "word" that denotes grammar. I say "word" in quotes because some of them aren't actually words at all, and have no translation. Wa (actually "ha", but pronounced "wa") denotes the topic or context of the sentence. It has no translation in English, but you can think of the difference between "I" and "me", and you'll have a general idea. Desu is at the end of the sentence because the Japanese feel like having it there. Most people say that English is a SVO (subject-verb-object) language, while Japanese is a SOV (subject-object-verb) language. These are the basic sentence structures, but they can be played around with. Because Japanese uses particles to denote grammar, they can change the order all they want and still have it mean the same thing. Compare these phrases: うちの犬が姉さんのご飯を食べてしまった。 uchi no inu ga ane-san no gohan wo tabeteshimatta. 姉さんのご飯を食べてしまった、うちの犬が。 ane-san no gohan wo tabeteshimatta, uchi no inu ga. 食べてしまった、うちの犬が。姉さんのご飯を。 tabeteshimatta, uchi no inu ga. ane-san no gohan wo. 食べてしまった、ご飯を。姉さんの。うちの犬が。 tabeteshimatta, gohan wo. ane-san no. uchi no inu ga. The words are all the same, and they all have the same meaning (Our dog ate my sister's food), but the order is completely different. That's not to say that order is completely useless. In Japanese, the more emphasis something has, the later it is in the sentence. So the first sentence above would stress that the dog ate it. The second would emphasize that it was our dog. The third enforces the idea of it being my sister's food. The last goes something like: Ate (which was bad) the food that was my sister's, our dog did. So it would stress in order, that the dog did it, the fact that it belonged to my sister, that it was food, and that it was eaten (which was bad). I honestly don't believe how off-topic we've gotten. |
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| Jette | Mar 4 2007, 02:44 PM Post #20 |
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Lol its okay. |
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| AnnonOMous | Mar 4 2007, 06:28 PM Post #21 |
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It's coming...
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It's educational, and after mposting, I'm gonna read through the whole post instead of skimming... And as my langauges go, I can say hello in 409 different ways last time I counted, other rhan that, I'm a master at English, bad-English, Olde English, in fact, most forms of English... I know the basics to both British and international sing language, know a tiny bit of French and Spanish, can read and understand almost any language that uses ASCII as its main basic part (most European languages), and all my Japanese is self taught from watching anime, but I couldn't hold a converrsation in Japanese. I'm also very mildly dyslexic, so I sometimes make spelling mistakes, and have aspergers syndrome. Oh, and I forgot to add the err... waht's it called shojin manga I've read... Shojin manga is the manga that is aimed at girls isn't it? These include, but are not limited to: Magic Knights RayEarth (V2 & 3) CLAMP Dectives (V3) CLAMP Defenders (V1) Tokyo Mew Mew (V1) |
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| Jette | Mar 4 2007, 06:35 PM Post #22 |
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1. CLAMP f'ing rocks (except when they took Cardcaptor Sakura off) 2. I keep hearing "I'm good at english" and I'm wondering is there anyone here except me thats American? 3. Do they teach you english in Japan like they do in Negima? 4. Anyone wanna teach me Japanese? I might be movin there in the next few years for Job purposes. |
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| andrewshen123 | Mar 4 2007, 06:41 PM Post #23 |
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That doesn't count :P.
Cool, I have Aspergers too.
I believe that's shoujo manga.
Well I'm Canadian, and that's close enough.
Yes.
Go to http://www.nihongoresources.com/. That's where I learned my Japanese. |
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| AnnonOMous | Mar 4 2007, 06:46 PM Post #24 |
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It's coming...
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That reminds me, CardCaptor Sakura (V6) also needs to be put on the list... And if you get a BD, then you can teach English in Japan, now if Negima, My HiME and School Rumble are faithful descriptions on what schools are like in Japan, then I need to reconsider skipping Uni... This a complete list of Magna's I've read, where the Manga doesn't exist, I'm refering to the Anime in some cases, Negima! for example, I'm refering to both: Ah! My Goddess Ah! My Goddess - Sorezore no Tsubasa Akira AppleSeed Azu Manga Daioh Battle Angle Alita Blood: The Last Vampire CardCaptor Sakura Chobits CLAMP Defenders CLAMP Detectives DigiMon Full Metal Alchemist Full Metal Panic Ghost in the Shell Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence Granadier Initial D Macross Plus Magic Knight RayEarth Mai/My HiME Naruto Negima! Negima!? Negima Neo Outlaw Star Psychic Academy Rave Master Robotech: The Macross Saga Robotech: The Masters Samurai Deeper Skyland (this is actually a French CGI but the general opinion of my friends is thatit qualifys as an Anime) Spirited Away ToHeart Tokyo Mew Mew Zone of the Enders |
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| Jette | Mar 4 2007, 06:48 PM Post #25 |
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And how much do you know Andrew? |
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| andrewshen123 | Mar 4 2007, 06:58 PM Post #26 |
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Uhh yeah... about that... ![]() Well my main problem is vocab. I'm good with grammar, but memorizing a whole new set of words for a whole new language... ugh... That and the fact that I'm Chinese-Canadian, which means I sometimes get kanji and Chinese characters mixed up. |
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| Jette | Mar 4 2007, 07:57 PM Post #27 |
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lol I'm the opposite I can learn new words but I'm horrible at grammar and I dont really like learnin from sites. |
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| Shinmeiryuu | Mar 4 2007, 09:11 PM Post #28 |
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More than half of the people in this forum are American (or Canadian). But the diversity of this forum is a a bit impressive. Btw, never learn Japanese from solely anime. You will be humiliated and give gaijin a bad name (not that it already isn't, in some cases). J-dramas are ok, but no one talks like that IRL. The best way is to learn formally/institutionally. There are many places on the internet that teach basic Japanese, and teaching your self can be as simple as going through a Japanese dictionary and flashcards. Of course, the most important thing is to practice. I'm learning Chinese myself, next year. It'll help me recognize kanji easier (somewhat). |
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| Jette | Mar 4 2007, 09:49 PM Post #29 |
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Well I have learned some simple words from Anime but its not like I pay attention to the words their sayin except one in particular. I say we make a Japanese thread that lets people ask the people who know japanese questions so that they can learn. What do ya say? |
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| Akashi | Mar 4 2007, 09:51 PM Post #30 |
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I considered doing that once, but this forum won't display Japanese characters. :o (Or something won't... I know my computer will, so it's not that.) |
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