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Love...; Why is it important to us?
Topic Started: Jun 10 2007, 09:41 AM (910 Views)
KonoSetsuna
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"Love is something we crave. We crave the desire, the closeness, and the ability to love in return."

I don't believe it necessary always make someone happy but I believe that most people love the idea of it.
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Dauthi
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You talk about love as if it were sacrosanct, as if it were something unattainable. Why? Have you ever been in love?

Perhaps we have to work for love. But we have to work for everything that is worthwhile in this world. We have to work for happiness, and we have to work for respect. Love that is money is equivalent to being dispensable.

You keep asking for more from another person because love is not a one-person relationship. It's a rapport between two people, or even one person and life. It is not just what you expect out of life, but what life expects out of you. Now that sounds silly and abstract, but think about it: if life expected nothing out of you, then what reason would you have to live?
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KonoSetsuna
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If love doesn't exist, whose to say that depression doesn't exist?

Love is a feeling, an emotion, so to speak. And yes, i do believe one must work for love sometimes. No one ever said love was easy.
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You keep wanting more from the other person because you're never satisfied with who they are and what they're giving you already. You have high expectations for the other person and when they're not met, would you be happy?

You expect your spouse to always be there for you. He/she cheats on you. What now? Expectations aren't met. You're not happy.

Let's say you're a married woman. Why do you get married? Because you think it'll make you happier, it'll make your relationship happier. Say your husband is doing all the work and one day you decide you want to get a job too. Why do you want to get a job? Aren't you happy enough just by sitting at home and being a married woman? Nope, you want a life outside the home. Therefore you haven't gotten the satisfaction you expected from your marriage.

People tend to think that being in love will solve all your problems, make you complete. But why do you want other things if it's supposed to make you happy?

Love is an illusion created by us as a society. It's society's core beliefs that love makes us happy which is why a lot of people believe that.

Love is easily obtainable but is it really worth it?
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KonoSetsuna
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Love isn't always good. It will not always make you happy.

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You expect your spouse to always be there for you. He/she cheats on you. What now? Expectations aren't met. You're not happy.


Well of course not! He/She betrayed you and even if you were not in love, you'd be unhappy.



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Why do you want to get a job? Aren't you happy enough just by sitting at home and being a married woman? Nope, you want a life outside the home. Therefore you haven't gotten the satisfaction you expected from your marriage.


Being in love doesn't mean your whole world revolves around a certain person...
I think society forces us to believe that your suppose to get married when your in love. I highly doubt that theres a need to be married to keep ones love strong. There are many differen't degrees of love. You say that love is made by society, but honestly, its marriage, or the meaning of marriage, thats made by society.

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But why do you want other things if it's supposed to make you happy?

Because, we want it all. We're human.




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Dauthi
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You keep wanting more from the other person because you're never satisfied with who they are and what they're giving you already. You have high expectations for the other person and when they're not met, would you be happy?


The fundamental thing I don't agree with you on is the wanting more out of somebody. Of course love isn't going to satisfy you and make you complacent. There is not a moment where you are completely satisfied and want nothing more.

This doesn't even have to apply to love. So I run the mile for track, and I run and I run and I run. And maybe I become the best in the nation, and maybe I break a World Record; (hahaha) does that mean I can become satisfied and sit back and relax? No. I set myself a higher goal, to break my own record, and suffer through countless disappointments of being unable to attain my goal. Perhaps I never get to it, and it becomes apparent. That doesn't mean I should stop trying.

We make ourselves better people through our efforts. Love only continues through our hard work. It's not satisfying and it never will be, but that doesn't mean it's not worth the effort.

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You expect your spouse to always be there for you. He/she cheats on you. What now? Expectations aren't met. You're not happy.


Forgiveness is also a part of love. Love in general. Your mother forgets to pick you up from a track meet one night and you sit in the cold for an hour. "Expectations aren't met. You're not happy." You move on and you forget.

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Why do you get married? Because you think it'll make your relationship happier.


Is there something wrong with that? I believe that ultimately we all just want to find happiness in our lives.

I don't even know why I'm arguing for the side of love. I'm not particularly enamored of it, but man you guys just sound really bitter towards romantic love, and it's not that bad.

People need love for happiness. It's not romantic love. It doesn't have to be romantic love. But people need self-love, and they need the love of friends, and perhaps they need a little bit of romantic love too. It's those little moments that love brings, when your lover comes through for you, when your friends come through for you, when you come through for yourself. They're fleeting, but, in my opinion, worthwhile.
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I am rather bitter towards love, I'm not denying that. It's been like what? Six months since I got dumped by Mei and to be perfectly honest, I'm still rather upset about it. And I came to the realization that what I've been getting out of love is far from happiness. I don't even think commitment is worth it anymore, in all honesty. I'll probably just end up as some swinger/slut thing with that in mind.
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Evenkurugan
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To the point really. Some people think love is worth it. Some people think it sucks entirely. Im on the suck side. Sorry.
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KonoSetsuna
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*waves at Evenkurugan* S'okay! Everyone's entitled to their own opinions especially when they've got their own experiences. :)
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Alot of people will never know what true love is.
But some will.
Personally, I don't know what love is quite yet... I have a pretty good feeling but I wouldn't say that I'm IN love.. Not yet, at least. You have to be with someone for a really long time(sometimes that doesn't apply), and you have to be able to be open, comfortable, and trustworthy in that person. That person has to be special to you.

Thats what I think love is, anyway.
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Xiao
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I'm sorry, but to me it seems rather odd where those of you who are exceptionally bitter are coming from. What it seems like you're saying is that "I couldn't get it to work once, therefore it does not exist/won't work for me." I don't know of the severity of some of the things that have happened, but I've seen some nasty things happen between people and all I can say is buck up. I personally know that it hurts quite a bit to be on the bad end of a bad relationship, but I also know that it does exist, though is very hard to find. And in my opinion, love is very far from 'happy' and isn't a feeling. Say a family member you were close to was shot, would you still love them? Would you still be happy?
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I'm sorry, but to me it seems rather odd where those of you who are exceptionally bitter are coming from. What it seems like you're saying is that "I couldn't get it to work once, therefore it does not exist/won't work for me." I don't know of the severity of some of the things that have happened, but I've seen some nasty things happen between people and all I can say is buck up. I personally know that it hurts quite a bit to be on the bad end of a bad relationship, but I also know that it does exist, though is very hard to find. And in my opinion, love is very far from 'happy' and isn't a feeling. Say a family member you were close to was shot, would you still love them? Would you still be happy?

That is COMPLETELY what I wanted to say, but much less wordy than anything I could come up with. I totally agree.
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...Huw... I have to admit it's true. You have to got courage if you want to try for love... I guess that's it. Because there's one chance for one hundred to get the perfect love. Nothing's perfect. But thinking of all that betraying and all the things like that, love's getting dirty. You have to be more and more brave, if you wanna try, it's now getting worse and worse...
...Or maybe it always have been like that. Dunno. Anyway, now, love's often getting a junk feeling.
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Dauthi
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I wonder why? I mean, think about it. Nothing else captures the human imagination as much as love. And yeah, many people become disillusioned with love because it's not what they've been led to believe it is, but it's a truly powerful illusion then, because we feel so strongly about it. Even those who are bitter or dislike love feel so much towards it.
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I think there are many differen't forms of love ranging from wanting to love emotionally to physically. Now I wonder if true love exist in both.
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