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Love...; Why is it important to us?
Topic Started: Jun 10 2007, 09:41 AM (908 Views)
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Hm...one must be careful. Something so wonderful naturally comes at a high price...especially in the event of failure. Save for the love of the Lord, of course. For that we pay nothing and may He praised for that.
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...I mean, for me, the most respectable love is the Lord love, and also the love to the family, and then comes love to friends. Really important.
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The people that annoy me are the people who say they love other people but they're really only infatuated. I agree it's cuter to say "I love him" rather than "I infatuate him" lol but yeah.. Teenagers these days think they love people but they're almost always completely wrong about it. I never dated in high school because I don't believe that high school relationships work out unless you've dated that person for over a year or more. Most high school relationships (mostly because all high school is is drama) only last a few weeks let alone a month or a year.

Thats the one thing that annoys me about people who say they're in love when they haven't been in a relationship with someone for a long time. You have to know the other person well enough to trust them with your life before you can say you love them.
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Xiao,Feb 8 2008
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I'm sorry, but to me it seems rather odd where those of you who are exceptionally bitter are coming from. What it seems like you're saying is that "I couldn't get it to work once, therefore it does not exist/won't work for me." I don't know of the severity of some of the things that have happened, but I've seen some nasty things happen between people and all I can say is buck up. I personally know that it hurts quite a bit to be on the bad end of a bad relationship, but I also know that it does exist, though is very hard to find. And in my opinion, love is very far from 'happy' and isn't a feeling. Say a family member you were close to was shot, would you still love them? Would you still be happy?

I am not the person to give up once and not try again. Trust me when I say I have been trying for most of my life but to no avail. So yha. Sometimes it works for people, sometimes it doesn't. I gave up on it. I don't like it anymore. LOL
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merokoyui,Feb 9 2008
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The people that annoy me are the people who say they love other people but they're really only infatuated. I agree it's cuter to say "I love him" rather than "I infatuate him" lol but yeah.. Teenagers these days think they love people but they're almost always completely wrong about it. I never dated in high school because I don't believe that high school relationships work out unless you've dated that person for over a year or more. Most high school relationships (mostly because all high school is is drama) only last a few weeks let alone a month or a year.

Thats the one thing that annoys me about people who say they're in love when they haven't been in a relationship with someone for a long time. You have to know the other person well enough to trust them with your life before you can say you love them.

I agree. The definition of 'Love' can be so exaggerated.
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merokoyui,Feb 9 2008
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The people that annoy me are the people who say they love other people but they're really only infatuated. I agree it's cuter to say "I love him" rather than "I infatuate him" lol but yeah.. Teenagers these days think they love people but they're almost always completely wrong about it. I never dated in high school because I don't believe that high school relationships work out unless you've dated that person for over a year or more. Most high school relationships (mostly because all high school is is drama) only last a few weeks let alone a month or a year.

Thats the one thing that annoys me about people who say they're in love when they haven't been in a relationship with someone for a long time. You have to know the other person well enough to trust them with your life before you can say you love them.

I agree, I see this sort of thing all the time and it annoys the hell right out of me, this shallow perception of love is one of the reasons why I think that the divorce rate throughout America is quite high. Result of the media forcing the thought that hormones is love gets people to act this way.

And @Evenkurugan: I'm sorry to hear that, but most people I've seen acting bitter towards love (not necessarily just around here) have done pretty much what I said, "Tried it once, didn't work, don't think I'll try again"
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(>_> …please don’t mind my ramblings…I did write too much…and I’m sorry. <_< >_> <_< I’m sorry if I said anything that might sound bad or unpleasant, too…o_o I hope I didn’t say anything bad that I didn’t mean to …<_< >_> <_< I don’t think I did…hmmn…and I may have repeated things I’ve said before, too- either in my other posts or in my fics…but I do hope it’s okay to repeat my own words. >: emphasis kinda? <_<…>_> ...and I hope I didn't go out of topic...<_< >_> ...hmmn

Maybe these thoughts which I will say are too traditional and old…^-^ but what’s wrong with a bit of cheeziness once in a while? As long as it comes from the heart, I don’t mind saying it. >: Besides…love is the basis of KonoSetsu<3 and the reason why I’m still here.

…written not to argue with anyone on their own respective points…but to prove… at least to myself, that it exists. That it is important because love is a part of life. And if I can prove to one person that love does exist in this beating heart…then my life is worth living, after all.)

What is love? Perhaps the only answer is that we all try to define it too much, use it too much that the connotation becomes more and more vague as everyone attempts to use it in our own terms. What is love? I love the stars that shine on the trees that bend in the wind that blows on the leaves that fall…but what is love? (<_< …yup…I said this before)

A fish…having never seen land, exclaims that it does not exist. “Are there bubbles and corals there? I know not of the trees and flowers that you speak of.”

How does it feel to spread your wings and fly? How do you show the colors of the rainbow to someone who is born blind? How do you describe music to a deaf person? It is something that cannot be defined…can only be felt when you have experienced it.

The same goes with love. What is music important? Why is life important? Does love really exist?

Some things cannot be proven, cannot be answered with equations or physical reasoning…but it can be felt.

Love is the laughter in mother’s eyes as she listens to her baby’s first calls of “mama”. Love is the joy in bonding, the knowledge that you are not alone as you walk with friends. Love is in the dog’s tails as it waggles, welcoming it’s master home. Though perhaps…the kind of love that is most mentioned is amorous love.

Amorous love is pain of worrying for someone. Amorous love is heartache of constantly wishing to see that person. Amorous love is despair, when you know the person you love does not feel the same way, or if you know this love would end in hopelessness…

Sometimes it is betrayal. The realization that the person you love is not exactly who they are, and the things they do might hurt you. Sometimes our belief in love waivers, and we end up asking…why do I do this if it does not make me happy? Perhaps in this world…love is too greatly glorified.

We ask for more. Hoping, wishing that they can quell our doubts. You can prove to me that love exists, right? You can prove to me that love exists, and that we are meant to be.

But in the end, perhaps the person we are looking at is not quite the person we had believed them to be…and it ends in disappointment.

It does not exist. It doesn’t make me happy, doesn’t fill this emptiness in my heart… because in the end, it leaves me tired and even more empty.

Perhaps, along the way of searching for love…we have forgotten the true meaning of it all.

Sometimes I forget that I feel empty because I gave my heart away.

Love is not selfish. Love is not to ask, not to seek.

What happens if everyone in this world should care only for themselves and what they want in life? What happens of mommy should one day say… “I want to enjoy my own life. Caring for you is boring.”?

No two humans are exactly alike. No two people seek exactly the same things. What should happen if we are close friends…and I want to go see this movie…while you want to go to another? I would let you go see you favorite movie this time…and maybe you’ll go with my favorite the next time.

Love is learning to yield to each other’s wishes. I will be happy to help you, to do whatever you ask me to do…and just maybe…next time, you’ll do it for me, too. And even if you don’t do it for me, I’ll gladly do it for you, because I love you.

Love is doing things for someone without thinking of what you might get in return. It is knowing the joys of living for someone.

Sometimes, as human, we tend to ask for too much. Love is there to teach us to enjoy what we already have.

If I can say that I’ll gladly risk my life for you…then why not say that I’ll be okay even if you don’t love me, too?

And even if you hurt me, I’ll be okay, too. Once I can admit that I am yours…my life is yours for the taking.

There are tears that fall from my eyes. And I am happy to see them. I’m crying because I have known love. I’m crying because I love you, and only you can hurt me just that much. Only you can take my life away.


There is a point, when you love someone too much- that you don’t need to ask for anything but the knowledge that- that person is happy. And at that point, we attain true happiness…because the more we give, the happier we become.

It is like donating a present to an orphaned child, and sneakily watching them from behind…happy to know that you have made someone else smile, even if they don’t know who you are or if they don’t care who you are. (and to think…one can be so happy doing that for a stranger…how wonderful would it be to do it for someone you love? Even if they don’t know it is you…or if they don’t give you what you have given them).

Love is acceptance. Love is to give, and to accept what has been given.

No one is perfect.

Don’t try to change people. Because our perception of that person might not be exactly who they really are. Sometimes they themselves don’t know who they are. Love is learning to love someone…even if they have faults, and maybe loving them even for those faults.

True love is learning who someone is and accepting them as such- with the knowledge that should you discover knew things about them, you would love them just the same.

It is the knowledge that one day you might discover an entirely different side to that person…yet the acceptance that even with that mystery, you will love that person.

I don’t really know you. But I know I’ll love you when you show yourself to me. It is the true meaning of “I accept you for who you are.” I love you …just because- you are you, and that’s all I need to know.

Love is learning to be satisfied with what you receive, to treasure the little things that the person you love does for you- to appreciate it just because it is from them.

If I love you, then you are the reason to my happiness. And if you are the reason to my happiness…then there is nothing else of you I can ask for. Seeing you being you, doing whatever you do makes me happy.

Love is not seeking your own happiness…but learning to be happy whenever you can make someone else be happy.

The special quality of love is that it is designed not to make us happy, the main purpose of love is so that our loved ones can be happy. After all, if you love someone, all you would wish for them is the best, and sometimes it means that you would need to put their contentment above your own. In the process, the joy we derive from seeing the person we love happy makes us happy as well.

If I insist on wanting what I want…and you insist on what you want of me, then all that is between us is the desire to attain happiness from each other. It might be inevitable that my happiness might interfere with your own. But if your happiness is my happiness, then seeing you happy makes me happy as well. That way, both of us will be happy, ne?

Love is knowing that you have this weakness laid out in front of someone, and not minding if you are hurt because of it.

And in the end love is but a smile.

Often it is a sad smile, or a hopeless smile…but a smile all the same.

At other times it would be an embarrassed smile, when you find yourself alone and smiling for nothing at all- besides the fact that you are thinking of that person. A smile every time you think of that person, when you see that person…when you remember that person…

When you find yourself doing silly things for someone…when you live just for that person, when that person’s happiness is your own, then it is love.

There are many different types of love out there. Many people we end up meeting…we end up loving. And if we find ourselves doubting love…then we are closing our eyes from the chance of finding love. Besides, love doesn’t always have to be amorous, and even if it hurts us…even should our wings be clipped when that love proves not to be the One…isn’t it all worth it…just for the chance of having known heaven?

Sometimes when falling out of love…or when a relationship ends in bitterness…people become discouraged. But that just means that you haven’t met your One just yet. Be patient. ^-^ Love can come in the most unexpected of places…and when it arrives, you will know it… because in the end, through all pain and heartache, if you love someone enough- there can only be happiness. Happiness of having known love, the happiness of giving that love with all your entirety, and asking nothing in return. (Though should that person find that you are the only one for them…^-^<333 then it will be perfection. >: if I am happy when you are happy…and you are happy when I am happy…^-^ then the circle that is you and me only contains happiness)

<_< …in the end…I guess what I’m trying to say is…

Of course, one doesn’t need love to live. One don’t need love to be happy. (>_> …often, one would find that love causes much sadness, too) Sometimes one can choose not to fall in love.

But love is important, because only when you have found love, would you know that you have truly lived…and what it means to be truly happy.

After all…^-^ only in sadness…does happiness become for meaningful. There must be bitterness…for us to truly appreciate the rare sweetness that life has to offer, and not take it for granted.

-------------(<_< ….extra note on marriage and divorce because it is love related)----

When a person discovers that there is only one other person in the world who can complete them…when they find that they want to see that person every minute, every second…then perhaps it is when they decide on marriage.

Marriage is the union of two souls…two lives.

It is something that must be thought out carefully…when you are truly sure that you want to spend your entire life with that person.

Perhaps the reason why people today divorce often is because it is too easy. Too easy to get married, and too easy to break that marriage.

It is not that people love any less than they used to…but it is because we mistake attraction and heat for true love.

Many years ago…marriage is something you have to save up money for. Sometimes, people cannot even afford for a wedding ceremony. There is also the fact that divorces were scorned in the olden times…so when a person decides to marry, they have to think long and hard…

After all, if you end up saving half of your life’s work of money for that marriage…and if you know that you will be spending the rest of your life with that person- that there is no such thing as divorce (if there is…it is looked down upon)…you have to be sure to choose the right person, because there is only one chance…and no way of returning.

It is sacred. It is precious, because it is a union of two lives…there is no separation. You will share with that person everything…and you must be really really really sure that they are the one…or else you will end up spending the rest of your life with someone you don’t want to be with.

But nowadays…

It is too easy to get married. /“I like you, and you like me…let’s get married.”/ Sometimes people do it for the celebration, the party…for fun.

Sometimes it is for sexual desires…Sometimes it is because they feel like it.

There is even a news document once on a celebrity getting married in the morning, and getting a divorce that very afternoon. Shows are made on TV for people to watch, depicting a random girl choosing guys, or a guy choosing a girl from a group of girls…sleeping with them after meeting them for just a few days.

Where’s the love? Where is the sincerity, the purity of the soul that you keep for that one person…that you keep safe for that night of marriage?

Marriage is turning into a game. All for amusement and entertainment…because after all…if it is a mistake then you know you can always file for divorce afterwards.

Then there are others who do get married out of love…but the relationship shatters only after a few hardships.

Why endure with a marriage when you can easily leave with a painless divorce?

If you know that when you marry someone, you will have to stay with them forever, and if there is no such thing as divorce…then whatever trouble you go through, you have to work it out together. Learning how to live with someone and retaining your love for them through differences and hardships that appear is the essence of a true marriage. And after spending those hardships together… the bond between two married people become stronger.

It is easy to die for someone…a short bout of pain, and then there is darkness.

Yet to live for someone…to maintain that love, to love someone as they change- and as you change as well…to go through hardships with that person…to each and every day endure things you have never endured before…

It is the most difficult task of all.

But that doesn’t mean that love is not there. Things change…people change, and sometimes the light of love becomes dim. But it’s still there.

Besides…who is to say that divorce is wrong? Sometimes people who divorce later find true love elsewhere…and they end up spending their rest of their life with that person. Who is to say...love that breaks quickly is wrong? Perhaps at that moment in time...that person really was everything. (>_> ...though...mostly likely not...)

Then again there are also plenty of people out there who get married, and live with each other for the rest of their lives…loving each other until the day they die…and even after death.

...plenty of people who…though they have never met amorous love…^-^ have felt love in other forms as well (^__^<33 family? Frienship?<33 >: with pets<33).

Whatever form it takes…where ever it is…

Love is always there in it’s many shapes, waiting for us. >: <33333333333 Don’t give up on love.

Love is important...just because. ^-^ It is love. There is nothing else to say.

-Furu Kei (<_< ...I'm sorry if I'm being bad...again...I said too much...)
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:clap: Awesome Furu!
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You have two things when dealing with high school "love" and all that baliwick.
1. attempting to correct most folks of that age group (note I do not say all) will result in, at best, feigned acceptance of your valuable instruction.
2. It is the first time for most people to have such feelings as infatuation and whatnot. You arn't used to it, can't tell the difference between true love and "ZOMGOSH SHE'S PRETTY". It's a lack of experience that trips 'em up.

I now feel awkward describing how I myself likely act with those around me that I have interest in...dang.
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Furu Kei,Feb 9 2008
07:49 PM

What is love? Perhaps the only answer is that we all try to define it too much, use it too much that the connotation becomes more and more vague as everyone attempts to use it in our own terms. What is love? I love the stars that shine on the trees that bend in the wind that blows on the leaves that fall…but what is love? (<_< …yup…I said this before) ....

That post proves that the world has yet to completely slide into hell...


@Regalar: And the Media glorifying this feeling from hormones isn't helping the general view on love
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@Furu-san> Yeah, I have to admit it. Really well done.
...It won't make me bear love, because I'm too selfish, but it's true. And as true for all the kinds of love ever on this hearth.
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Xiao,Feb 10 2008
12:31 AM
Furu Kei,Feb 9 2008
07:49 PM

What is love? Perhaps the only answer is that we all try to define it too much, use it too much that the connotation becomes more and more vague as everyone attempts to use it in our own terms. What is love? I love the stars that shine on the trees that bend in the wind that blows on the leaves that fall…but what is love? (<_< …yup…I said this before) ....

That post proves that the world has yet to completely slide into hell...


@Regalar: And the Media glorifying this feeling from hormones isn't helping the general view on love

The fact is, though, that they help. You can choose to overcome those if you want (similar to ignoring certain genetic traits that determine attitude and such) but they are still there. Like someone pushing you. If you stand firm, they can't do much, but if you allow a little looseness it pushes you the rest of the way over.
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*cough* well, anyways.. speaking of Love in general...

Happy Valentines Day, everyone! :spreadlove:
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