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Are You Happy With Your Life?; overall, not just at the moment.
Topic Started: Feb 24 2008, 05:56 PM (902 Views)
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Sometimes, life is a pain in the ass. And then on the other hand, sometimes it's insanely attractive.


Living only 17 years gives me no insight on whether or not I'm happy with my life.

That being said, I'll go live another 20-30 years or so, and then come back to answering this question.
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jiz,Feb 25 2008
05:58 PM
Exactly. I think people should realize that there's no escaping death and that you shouldn't get so worked up over the things you want to do in life. Think the first Matrix. The purposes we set for ourselves in life only just prolong our own death.

You set a goal for yourself. You reach that goal. What next? You find a new one. Or some people say that their purpose or goal in life is to be successful. You reach that goal, great! What next? You're never really happy with your life if you need to keep trying to find excuses to keep on living or keep doing whatever you're doing.

We're all just trying to justify a meaning for a life that doesn't have one.

100 years after my death, nobody will care whether or not I lived a happy life or found my own purpose. So I feel that on a larger scale, it doesn't matter.

If I were another person and I saw myself whinge on about how I wouldn't be content with my life if I died, honestly, I wouldn't give a damn.

Lol, youre saying it like living life is a pain~~.


And I dunno, rather than setting a goal to prolong our death, I think we rather do these kind of stuff to feel happy or statisfied with ourselves in the time we're still living.

'Cuz really, if we're not using our time alive to do things that are either fun or important to us, there's no reason why we should be alive.


'Sides not all goals really prolong youre death since some jobs are rather dangerous and may shorten youre life to like, just one more year from now. Yet some people still see they're goal as being the head of the *insert name of great instatution that involve crime or war~*.


Also I don't think anything that happened in the past isn't that important in general.
Wether if it was Jiz who lived a happy life before dying or Abraham Grandbell (lol did I get the name right?) who invented the phone and some other stuff, nobody really cares much about that, and that peace of information would be pretty useless.
The only difference between Jiz and Grandbell, is that Grandbell contrebuted to technoligy and history by creating the phone. However, nobody cares about Grandbell's life aside from he's inventions and anything that had to do with that.

So like really, anyone and anything that didn't happen in youre own time dosen't really matter much if any~

(Okay, this example sucked...)
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I'm not sure where the topic of death came from... oh well.

Death isn't something that ought to take the happy things out of life. Death will come when it comes.

And the fact of having a happy life, as long as you're happy, that's all that should matter. It's not important if people think you had a happy life, and it's not their place to even say.

The "book of life" is not for others to read, but for you to read.

It's like Victor said, he didn't like his childhood which he separated from now, and Booky who doesn't seem to have too much of an easy time, the thing is maybe you're not happy now, so you can always look back on those days and realize the mistakes or paths you took, then just not make them or remold yourself to a better person.

Though it is rather difficult to say for sure for many us. After all, the future is forever coming and going.
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@Shiryu: Naw, that's exactly what I'm getting at. People don't care about who you are and what you've done in the long run D': I mean, since it's black history month here, my school does little black history facts on the announcements every morning. Nobody really listens. But when they do, they're always like, "What a waste of time" or "Why the hell are they still doing this? Nobody ever pays attention."

And I'm not saying living life is a pain. I'm arguing that there's no real point for life. You can make your own purpose, sure. But they're all just little frivolous justifications for your own purpose. If your own little illusions you've made make you happy, then that's good for you.

You can either focus on yourself or see shit in a larger scale(it's pretty damn disgusting too). You can focus on the here and now or on the future. As for me, I'm thinking waaay into the future x:
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I like how you don't conform to society, lol

Hrm, well your life is meaningless yeah? It's devoid of purpose; "there's no real point to life". So pretty much, the only solution to life would be suicide - it hastens the pace of this useless, pointless life. Is there a point staying here? Nah, none at all. Suicide is basically the only viable option someone who believes in their lack of presence.

If you carry this belief, however, at least engage and find happiness in the physical world. Create a meaning for your life, which may not necessarily be the meaning of life, but at least something to strive for. However, remember to keep your beliefs separate and not let it overtake the overarching idea that life is meaningless.
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UnNegi-relatedname,Feb 25 2008
08:56 PM
Sometimes, life is a pain in the ass. And then on the other hand, sometimes it's insanely attractive.


Living only 17 years gives me no insight on whether or not I'm happy with my life.

That being said, I'll go live another 20-30 years or so, and then come back to answering this question.

This man has the right idea.
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I feel like I could respond, but this issue ties into everything else in this little corner of the forum. Death, suicide, the purpose of life. It's an immeasurably vast and complex question. Thinking about it and discussing it is a worthy endeavor, but ultimately fruitless. Maybe like everything is. And maybe not.

Am I happy with my life? I don't know. I don't think I would be here if I could only say no.

@shiryu-ryu: You mean Alexander Graham Bell.
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lol Grandbell
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Asakura Raine,Feb 27 2008
01:46 AM
I like how you don't conform to society, lol

Hrm, well your life is meaningless yeah? It's devoid of purpose; "there's no real point to life". So pretty much, the only solution to life would be suicide - it hastens the pace of this useless, pointless life. Is there a point staying here? Nah, none at all. Suicide is basically the only viable option someone who believes in their lack of presence.

If you carry this belief, however, at least engage and find happiness in the physical world. Create a meaning for your life, which may not necessarily be the meaning of life, but at least something to strive for. However, remember to keep your beliefs separate and not let it overtake the overarching idea that life is meaningless.

I'm not saying you should kill yourself. I'm asking what purpose is there when you have a 50-50 chance of finding happiness in life. What point is there when you'll just lose everything in the end? You're in the war and your buddy just got blown up, life isn't all that happy is it? Society's core beliefs like being in a relationship, family, friends, success are supposed to be things that make you happy. If so, then why the fuck is the divorce rate 57%? Why are there dysfunctional families? Why are friends at each others throats? And why the hell are celebrities shooting up drugs if money and fame is supposed to make you happy? Why? Because obviously they're not satisfied at all. If the bridge to happyland was rundown and dangerous with only a 50-50 chance you'll make it to the other side, would you take that risk? Could you really say that you're satisfied with your life in the end just because you did all the shit that you wanted to do but you're obviously not satisfied with death?

I'm not saying I believe in this shit either. I'm just trying to fuel a good discussion. But I do believe that there's nothing you can do to stop death and getting worked up over whether you're happy with your life or not is pointless. Just keep doing whatever you're doing if you're happy with it already. I would rather live the lie than be open to the reality of it. So therefore, I'm conforming to society ;(

If I did believe in all this stuff, I would've gave up and killed myself by now. Because well, why waste time trying to find happiness in core beliefs when chances are you won't find it? Society likes to spit lies onto your face. And if you want to be society's bitch and take it all in like a sponge, good for you :D
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jiz,Feb 28 2008
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Asakura Raine,Feb 27 2008
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I like how you don't conform to society, lol

Hrm, well your life is meaningless yeah? It's devoid of purpose; "there's no real point to life". So pretty much, the only solution to life would be suicide - it hastens the pace of this useless, pointless life. Is there a point staying here? Nah, none at all. Suicide is basically the only viable option someone who believes in their lack of presence.

If you carry this belief, however, at least engage and find happiness in the physical world. Create a meaning for your life, which may not necessarily be the meaning of life, but at least something to strive for. However, remember to keep your beliefs separate and not let it overtake the overarching idea that life is meaningless.

I'm not saying you should kill yourself. I'm asking what purpose is there when you have a 50-50 chance of finding happiness in life. What point is there when you'll just lose everything in the end? You're in the war and your buddy just got blown up, life isn't all that happy is it? Society's core beliefs like being in a relationship, family, friends, success are supposed to be things that make you happy. If so, then why the fuck is the divorce rate 57%? Why are there dysfunctional families? Why are friends at each others throats? And why the hell are celebrities shooting up drugs if money and fame is supposed to make you happy? Why? Because obviously they're not satisfied at all. If the bridge to happyland was rundown and dangerous with only a 50-50 chance you'll make it to the other side, would you take that risk? Could you really say that you're satisfied with your life in the end just because you did all the shit that you wanted to do but you're obviously not satisfied with death?

I'm not saying I believe in this shit either. I'm just trying to fuel a good discussion. But I do believe that there's nothing you can do to stop death and getting worked up over whether you're happy with your life or not is pointless. Just keep doing whatever you're doing if you're happy with it already. I would rather live the lie than be open to the reality of it. So therefore, I'm conforming to society ;(

If I did believe in all this stuff, I would've gave up and killed myself by now. Because well, why waste time trying to find happiness in core beliefs when chances are you won't find it? Society likes to spit lies onto your face. And if you want to be society's bitch and take it all in like a sponge, good for you :D

Oh shit, nice points. Well, I suppose it's ultimately up to the individual, yeah? 50-50 chance all goes back to the "is the cup half empty or half full" scenario. The individual is the one who makes all the decisions and thus, how they attain they're "happiness". If your that sorta person who thinks they can pull if off, then you should definitely try your shot at happiness. Society supposedly portrays the norm, however it really is up to the person. I can't necessarily explain why all the evils in the world occur, but you could attribute some to the failures of the search for elusive happiness. Things like celebrities doing drugs and divorces are all attempts at instituting actions which may result in the becoming happier. Celebrities aren't content with the fame they have - they want more; so they do drugs. The reason? Cos they think they're find happiness in drugs.
But don't forget, 43% of marriages work out; there are functional families; there are mates who will always be your mates; and celebrities who are happy with their stardom. Perhaps it's just my optimistic take on life, but if you focus on the shit life hurls at you, you will never ever be happy. I believe that everyone has their own little happyville which they reside in - and if you want to take the risk to leave, then go for it. Just know that the bridge might collapse and you would have to drift all the way down stream into shitsville where you'll be attacked by beavers.

Oh, and I'm sorry if I sounded accusing. I learned this in English, and while it's pretty good to argue about, there's no way I could live by this shit XD Would've probably committed by now if I did.

I do, however, love your little take on life: "I do believe that there's nothing you can do to stop death and getting worked up over whether you're happy with your life or not is pointless. Just keep doing whatever you're doing if you're happy with it already." If I understood it properly, then if you are content, don't bother looking for something more. If you're unhappy, lower your standards until your happy. There is no point in looking for something more, lol.

I'd give societies core beliefs a shot, but like you said, if it's too hard and I'm not getting anywhere, I'd probably just settle for whatever.
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If you asked me this question like.. three or four weeks ago the answer would be "NO!" because I was really stressed out with failing school subjects and then the breakup just made me want to crawl into a hole and die. I pretty much lost everything I had worked so hard for.

Afterwards though I decided to get a tutor to help me in math and I handed in every assignment i missed and made appointments with my teachers and got myself out of the stupid hole i had dug myself so I feel so much better about that. And as for the breakup, well, it still hurts but I've gone two weeks without even talking to him let alone seeing him so it's getting slightly easier to get over him.

Plus the biggest thing I'm working towards is camp. Doing my best until I get there and then everything will be amazing. My life is going to completely change when I get to camp. and yes I'm sad to be leaving mahora but I'll still be able to come back and visit whenever i get free time.. apparently theres a computer to use there, plus i get to come home every week at some point so i'll be on eventually to talk to you guys.

So yeah I'd say right now things are smooth sailing. Life always has its ups and downs. You just have to deal with the downs maturely.
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To say that I am perfectly happy with my life would leave no room for improvement (because no matter how perfect someone's life is, there is always a wish that it would be better?)

butbutbut!!! If I were to die right now, I would accept it.
Sometimes Furu thinks...if I had the chance to go back in time to change things, I would still do the same things that I do...because if I don't do it, it wouldn't be me anymore. So in a way...though I do have regrets...though I am not perfectly happy with my life...what has been is what should be? I will acccept the sadness or happiness for what it is.

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12:48 AM
I won't be satisfied with my life until I make the world a better place.

Awww. That's a good life goal.

But, no. I wouldn't be happy if I died now. I mean, I guess I didn't do anything I regret in my past, but I don't live in the past. I tend to live in the future. I hurt someone a year ago? As long as they're fine now and accepted my apologies. I really do live in the future. It's all I can focus on. I'd have no regrets of my past actions if I died now, I'd only regret what I had not done. Or what I was yet to do. I've never even had a boyfriend, okay? Or been to Australia! I can't die now.
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I can safely say no to this question. I have not lived my life to its fullest, mainly because of me, but also because of my parents. They hold me back from things I want to do. But I won't rant.

I can do so much more with life if I chose to. I don't feel I've done good until I save some one, or I find some miraculous cure for some foreign illness that no one can cure.
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jiz,Feb 25 2008
10:58 PM
Exactly. I think people should realize that there's no escaping death and that you shouldn't get so worked up over the things you want to do in life. Think the first Matrix. The purposes we set for ourselves in life only just prolong our own death.

You set a goal for yourself. You reach that goal. What next? You find a new one. Or some people say that their purpose or goal in life is to be successful. You reach that goal, great! What next? You're never really happy with your life if you need to keep trying to find excuses to keep on living or keep doing whatever you're doing.

We're all just trying to justify a meaning for a life that doesn't have one.

100 years after my death, nobody will care whether or not I lived a happy life or found my own purpose. So I feel that on a larger scale, it doesn't matter.

If I were another person and I saw myself whinge on about how I wouldn't be content with my life if I died, honestly, I wouldn't give a damn.
Would you really not give a damn if your friend came to you with their existential woes?

Doesn't really sound like something that would come from someone who argued with me over suicide sometime ago ;[

If you CAN just not give a damn then thats quite an accomplishment. I on the other hand can't, while agreeing with everything you've said. Theres a difference to be understood : those words are theory, and are not always so plain and simply done in reality.

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On-Topic : I AM NOT HAPPY WITH MY LIFE NO SIR-EEE. But I'm working on it.

Also I love you Jiz, please don't bite me to hard <333
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