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| book of life | May 1 2008, 01:06 AM Post #16 |
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"Boring as fuck," eh? You should be satisfied the issue got somewhere stable and finished. What happens with a large number of people with strong beliefs meets another group of people with just as strong, but different beliefs? War. When people disagree, they don't get along. Not everyone is like you and UnNegi. |
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| Sir Meh | May 1 2008, 03:02 AM Post #17 |
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I am greatly saddened by what I inferred here. Anyway, what I found "as boring as fuck" were UnNegi's comments on how "the US is stupid" or "the US are total paranoid jerks", etc. If felt like talking to one of those talking action figures/dolls, that only have a predetermined set of phrases. Except his were all set to "bash America". Not very thought provoking. But I ask you this, which is worse? Two powers fighting each other directly, or using third parties to fight proxy wars? |
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| book of life | May 1 2008, 03:07 AM Post #18 |
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Using third parties. You going to fight; do it yourself. You not going to fight, don't go to war. Dirty people shouldn't have to do other people's dirty wars. |
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| Sir Meh | May 1 2008, 05:48 AM Post #19 |
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Ah but during the Cold War, the US and the Russians used proxy wars to avoid direct confrontations with each, as neither wanted to use their nukes and end the world. Does that mean that fighting directly is still the most ideal situation? |
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| book of life | May 1 2008, 02:16 PM Post #20 |
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If that's the case, then the US and Russians should have left the 'big guns at home.' Yes, direct fighting, even though there's that thing called an ocean in between. People pay major costs when they go to war; that's just another one of them. The nukes: they could have used at anytime, if the nukes worked, would have made no difference if third parties were there or not. What? Are the third parties supposed to run into each other and fight? What would that prove? The winner going to, say Russia, for example, and destroy the nukes? Makes no sense. US secretly hires some people and Russia hires some people and people hired parties fight. Proves nothing. If it does, please enlighten me. Only thing about proxy wars: Dirty people with clean hands using dirty people with dirty people with dirty hands to fight. Note: this seems off topic. |
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| Xiao | May 1 2008, 03:28 PM Post #21 |
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Though really, most war is entirely collateral damage, most soldiers are fighting because they were told they were supposed to, not because they have personal grudges against the other side (There are several exceptions, but I would guess that this is the general idea) I think we should cut out all middle men, just put the leaders in a locked stadium and let them fight it out themselves, the winner of the fight wins the war... but this could never really happen. It'd be about as useful as the 'outlaw on warfare' the world had prior to world war II. |
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| UnNegi-relatedname | May 1 2008, 04:24 PM Post #22 |
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lololol Treaty of Versailles was epic fail The fact that wars have been going on for thousands of years won't let us avoid this. You can't just say, 'Oh, let's stop wars' and have everyone agree. Everyone in the world is unique, and therefore, there always will be a certain pair that will disagree with eachother. |
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| Jollepoker | May 1 2008, 05:40 PM Post #23 |
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Actually you can... Get some hundred bombs which each can destroy the world with just a press on a button. Then become a bad enough dude and threaten the world with "If not all the world leaders make up, I will blow up the world. As you all know, I am a pretty cool guy, so I always do as I say. You have 3 days to hug each other. " And I'm serious when I say this, this could actually stop all the wars. That dude having the bombs can't be to much of a bad dude though D: |
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| UnNegi-relatedname | May 1 2008, 06:07 PM Post #24 |
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But you're speaking impossible terms here. No one would let a single person hold that many weapons without some world power sending in a massive invasion force which leads to your capture and execution (US -> Iraq) Otherwise I totally agree, that would completely work. |
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| book of life | May 1 2008, 08:39 PM Post #25 |
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This is because people in power are paranoid fucks who can't trust the person holding the bombs because they are worried the single person will be like them: a person who will go against their word and bomb the shit out of everyone because they can and prove how 'great' they are. |
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| Regalar | May 8 2008, 08:15 AM Post #26 |
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I am somehow unable to believe that a nation that held ground against vastly superior numbers/equipment to the last man, refused to surrender ground or be made prisoner (if possible) would just...give up. Both bombs were dropped because a. yeah, we had the Soviets to impress, I admit. b. Give Japan a "little nudge" in the direction of surrendering. c. To give them their peace medals back... |
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| Dauthi | Jun 16 2008, 12:48 AM Post #27 |
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GUITAR HEROOOOO.
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Yes, that was a tiny little nudge they gave there to help Japan surrender.
What does this mean? o_O |
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