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|[Palladium] Barrett REC7; Let's stat it!|
|Topic Started: Feb 7 2011, 04:20 PM (122 Views)|
|Grell||Feb 7 2011, 04:20 PM Post #1|
So, a certain player on the boards has multiple characters who use this rifle and different GM's with different takes on it's game performance. So in the spirit of the Compendium, let's stat this bad boy out.
To start: Let's see some game stats on the 6.8 SPC round which is the new hotness to many in gun circles. Yes, I know this weapon can also fire 5.56 ammo, but we already know what that does, so let's stick to the 6.8.
I'll weigh in later tonight with what I've already got in play and some recommended updates complete with source material.
|Lunarmage||Feb 7 2011, 04:43 PM Post #2|
With a 44% increase in energy over a 5.56, this to me means that the damage would be 44% higher then the 5.56mm round.
With a damage of 3d6 (3-18 damage) A single round from this should do around 4d6. As basic mechanics go, this is pretty good. And it goes well with the fact that the 6.8 SPC sits in between the 5.56 and 7.62. However if you take into account the foot pound force projected by the weapon, there is a 77% increase in power. which would increase the damage to 4d6+7.
If we are using P.V. for this as well, then the 5.56 has a P.V. of 5. the foot pound force would increase this as well by 77%, or P.V. 8. if we use the lower number than the P.V. is 'only' 7, the same as a .50 machine gun. Pretty damned good for an assault rifle.
|Grell||Feb 7 2011, 05:01 PM Post #3|
Can you cite your sources?
I've always run it that when calculating weapon damage, use the bullet damage. I wouldn't add any special modifiers to the bullet damage for a specific weapon unless there was a REALLY good cause for it (again, hard to say without your sources). I definitely do NOT think that the PV would go up just because the damage does as well. Considering that I've read accounts of the 6.8 having a slower velocity I'd say it's increase in killing power is not equalling an increase in penetration.
Here is my original ruling on the REC7 from when this character was first introduced into my game some years ago.
Barrett M468 (aka 'REC7')
Now here's where the situation gets sticky for me and why I'm reluctant to update or revise my original ruling on the subject. My wiki sources say that the 6.8 SPC boasts 50% more stopping power or 1.5 more kinetic energy than the 5.56mm round (REC7 Article). Now, using the Compendium of Contemporary Weapons as a template for base damage and the wiki article on calibers as a way to engineer damages for the multitude of rounds not covered by the Compendium, the 5.56mm round should do 6d6 SD per round. This directly contradicts the damage listed in the weapon stats as doing 3d6 SD per round.
How did I discover this, you ask? On page 10 of the Compendium, there is a chart for rifle cartridges and damage that neglects to mention the 5.56mm round. In the wiki article on calibers, there is a size comparison chart for rounds and it shows the 5.56mm being equal in size to the .223 round, which is in the Compendium! Great! Only issue is that the .223 is shown as doing 6d6 SD per round. Obvious discrepency when compared to the listed 5.56 weapon descriptions.
Now as an aside, I know there are many factors that affect a bullet's damage besides size and diameter, but I always aim for the most easy fix. Let's not overcomplicate things.
So, further research shows that the 5.56 uses heavier metal in it's cartridge which allows for less powder and higher pressures. It also states that while the 5.56 and .223 are identical in dimension, they are quite different in ballistic performance. Great, it looks like the 3d6 (or damage rating of 4) is accurate with room to bridge to the 5d6 (or damage rating of 6) boasted by the 7.62 NATO. Since the goal of the 6.8 SPC is to bridge that gap while maintaining the advantage in accuracy, I think I would be inclined to use the damage as listed in the individual weapon descriptions. So without further adieu, here is what I think the most accurate (in game terms at least) representation of the REC7 is in Palladium's crazy system:
Barrett M468 (aka 'REC7')
*PV = Penetration Value
*DR = Damage Rating
Edited by Grell, Feb 8 2011, 04:07 PM.
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