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... lawlz, this guy phails
Topic Started: Jul 24 2006, 11:13 PM (170 Views)
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yeah

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6154591.html


I'm all for doing a study on racism in video games (mostly 'cuz I'm usually for doing a study of any sort), but if you're gonna do it, you gotta do it right. Setting aside the fact that one needs to cite more than four games to label video gaming as anything, one also needs to pick games from ALL genres. Not just violent ones or Warcraft-type ones, but RPGs, puzzlers, platformers, everything. Having three of the four games chosen when doing a study be GTA, Shadow Warrior, and Kung Fu is hardly objective, either. I don't know enough about Warcraft, so it may or may not lack objectivity as well, but three out of four is too much as it is.

I think that while he makes a good point, he needs to make more of an effort to be objective for anything he writes to be credible at all.
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ugh, I hate people who don't know how to choose data.
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Warcraft 3? Racist? The hell? I don't even remember there being any non-white humans in that game O_o
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Soulavenger69
Jul 25 2006, 04:40 AM
Warcraft 3? Racist? The hell? I don't even remember there being any non-white humans in that game O_o

I know. If he's going on about all the hate between the races, then he's barking up the wrong tree.
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Warcraft 3? Racist? The hell? I don't even remember there being any non-white humans in that game O_o

I know. If he's going on about all the hate between the races, then he's barking up the wrong tree.

Mind you, race hatred in a WAR GAME is fairly obvious.
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ha ha ha

And they're usually for educational purposes. Ever played homeworld?
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ha ha ha

<_<

Didn't think so. Do so, it's a shiney space combat game, in true 3D, meaning you can go up and down. Which was groundbreaking when it first came out.
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And it came out, when?
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It doesn't say when, bur it runs on 95. And gogo English companies.

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My computer REALLY hates old games, for some reason. So I probably wouldn't be able to play it.
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Then get Homeworld 2 *shot*
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I tink this guy is a complete idiot. Games should not be designed to be good or bad for racial or othere stereotypes. That would merely be a form of brainwashing.

Also video games are just a form of making money, and he should not take it so seriously. I mean, people play games for fun, and generally nothing else. Lots of people don't take note of racism.
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I note that racisim is mainly the fault of the ENGLISH. *Hangs head in shame*

EDIT: Dammit, English and British are two different things...
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ha ha ha

X_x

I forgot about the slave trade.

And the huge empire didn't help either. But by saying brits, SM. You'e blaming the Welsh, Irish and Scottish. They didn't do much.
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Alright then, ENGLISH.
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... uh-huh.

...*smacks SM*

Considering 4 countries are British and only 1 is English, of course they are different.
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I get the two terms mixed up... *sidesteps*
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Jul 25 2006, 06:20 AM
I tink this guy is a complete idiot. Games should not be designed to be good or bad for racial or othere stereotypes. That would merely be a form of brainwashing.

Also video games are just a form of making money, and he should not take it so seriously. I mean, people play games for fun, and generally nothing else. Lots of people don't take note of racism.

That bolded statement doesn't just apply to racism in video games. There's that whole "violence in video games, lol" thing, as well. I play "violent" video games to forget what I'm angry about when I'm angry. They actually do the opposite of turning me into a ticking time bomb, though I do agree with certain games crossing the line in... other areas (Hot Coffee for GTA:SA, anyone?).


Anyway, the four games he selected are apparently the four more commonly critisized for racism. I don't see how that could possibly be a fair selection.
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Don't remind of the "violence issue", I'm still tying to forget that Jack Thompson exists.
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... uh-huh.

I get what the guy's saying, there are stereotypes in games, probably bordering on racism.

But, hell, you get the Scottish stereotypes everywhere (red hair, wearing kilts all the time etc). You don't see me getting up in arms because Groundskeeper Willie is a stereotypical Scot. They deliberately did that for humour. It's the same in many games, they put in stereotypes because it's funny; English people all being posh, Irish people being drunk all the time, Asian's being martial artists etc. Stereotypes are everywhere, but they're nothing to get outraged about really.

All I wanted to say was that so long as you accept that the stereotypes are a joke or not real, there's no harm in them.

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GS: By hand picking the four titles that you looked at, doesn't that kind of predispose you to come to a certain conclusion?

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....okay, this guy definitely doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't even understand what he was being asked there. He just ADMITTED that his selection of games -- not just the games themselves, but the fact that he only picked four -- would give him a jaded conclusion.

Dumbass.

There are seriously a lot of white people in games (I see no black or even tanned people in the entire FE series,; I admit I haven't seen every character in FE, but I would remember a black or even tanned guy if I saw one), which I have noticed. But it takes a better experiment than his week-long "**** I forgot to do my final project I'll just throw something together I don't wanna move back in with mom (emo)" inane thing like that to bring it to the light.

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Garret, Igrene and Hawkeye much?
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Garret?

Igrene?

Hawkeye? (shot) j/k, yeah, he's tanned, but he doesn't have the bone structure of anything but white. IMHO.
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(DISCLAIMER: I've never played FE6. Don't kill me if I've got that wrong)
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...I skimmed the last half of that load of BS. Good god, go find something else to whine about, emo-boy.
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Me: Devdan much? And actually, PoR addresses racism, albeit without using the races we have.
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Me: Devdan much? And actually, PoR addresses racism, albeit without using the races we have.

a) Devdan pwned for his Bob-Dole Speech. How did I miss him?

b) Very good point.
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