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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 14 2006, 09:12 PM (183 Views) | |
| Sonix | Sep 14 2006, 09:12 PM Post #1 |
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Saur, Ivy saur!
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*Blames RNG* Meh. He always got DEF screwed (Somehow) for me anyways. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 14 2006, 09:26 PM Post #2 |
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I broke my shades!
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My Gilliams are often Str raped, personally. <_< |
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Kruen, level 20/5 Berserker Xiella, level 20/1 Guardian Fernand, level 5 Knight Aurelia, level 8 Dragonrider Mariann, level 4 Hunter RETIRED Raedul, level 20/20 Paladin Tancred, level 100 Tangrowth | |
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| Bears | Sep 14 2006, 09:35 PM Post #3 |
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7 Spd, 20/9. >_< |
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes". 4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting. 4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama. | |
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| Mario123v2 | Sep 14 2006, 09:37 PM Post #4 |
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Deep South Commando
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Raped in general; 55 growth is ridiculously nice for Defense, but at the cost of everything else except HP (well, Strength too kinda, but not as much as HP/Def), I'm skeptical. It would be nice if his growths were better distributed, like so: Original: HP: 90 Str: 45 Skl: 35 Spd: 30 Def: 55 Res: 20 Lck: 30 Total: 305 --- Revamped: HP: 80 Str: 50 Skl: 30 Spd: 40 Def: 50 Res: 25 Lck: 30 Total: 305 That way, his Speed is decent for a Knight and equivalent to Franz's Strength, his Defense is still awesome, his HP is still awesome, his Strength is better, and his three most screwable stats are coincidentally Sacred Stones's three worst stats. Edit: Squid, that means that in 25 levels, he got one point of Speed, which is expected of a 4 growth, not a 30. You got really screwed out of a deal there, my friend. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 14 2006, 09:40 PM Post #5 |
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I broke my shades!
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His Speed would be... decent, for a Knight? I've never seen a Knight with more than 30% SPD growth in the FEs I played. 40% is overkill. >_> |
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Kruen, level 20/5 Berserker Xiella, level 20/1 Guardian Fernand, level 5 Knight Aurelia, level 8 Dragonrider Mariann, level 4 Hunter RETIRED Raedul, level 20/20 Paladin Tancred, level 100 Tangrowth | |
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| BlueYoshi | Sep 14 2006, 09:43 PM Post #6 |
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*uses Draco Meteor*
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MIN/MAXING IS FUN |
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| Bears | Sep 14 2006, 09:43 PM Post #7 |
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Christen, 45% Spd and 11 base as a level 14 Armor Knight? >_< Also, Mario: 20/4 Nino, 11 Mag. I think she had something like 26 Luck, but the Mag... |
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes". 4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting. 4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama. | |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 14 2006, 09:47 PM Post #8 |
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I broke my shades!
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I still didn't play your FE, Squid. >_> I'll correct that statement if I ever do. 2 points of Mag over 18 levels? And after going through all the ain of training Nino... mean. >_> |
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| Bears | Sep 14 2006, 09:48 PM Post #9 |
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It may not have been that awful, but it was no more than 12 at 20/6. I'm serious. But, I used h4x that game. |
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes". 4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting. 4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama. | |
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| Fallen Morning Flare | Sep 14 2006, 10:41 PM Post #10 |
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HiMAT Laharl!
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Twink, twink, twink away! |
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| Bears | Sep 14 2006, 11:01 PM Post #11 |
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Only to make raising her less of a pain. |
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes". 4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting. 4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama. | |
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| Soul | Sep 14 2006, 11:05 PM Post #12 |
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Ooh, my head is spinning...
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I think Wendy has a speed growth higher then 30%, I'll go check up on that >_>;; EDIT: Yup, 40% Coincidentally, Bors also has that growth for speed >.>;; |
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| Heroman | Sep 14 2006, 11:10 PM Post #13 |
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be wary of amazing chest
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Me: The FE6 knights sucked. Bors had a higher speed growth than defense, skill, or strength. And the cap in FE6 was 21 or so. |
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| Soul | Sep 14 2006, 11:11 PM Post #14 |
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Ooh, my head is spinning...
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That is true But hell, FE6 is the game where the highest def growth (Aside from Karel) is 40%, Bors is only behind that by 5% |
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| Mario123v2 | Sep 14 2006, 11:59 PM Post #15 |
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Deep South Commando
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I still think my Knight is the best possible stat distribution for a Knight with 305 growths. Anyone object (and if so, have ideas for tweaks)? |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 15 2006, 12:02 AM Post #16 |
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I broke my shades!
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It's min-maxing. Of course it works well. >_> |
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| Fallen Morning Flare | Sep 15 2006, 01:44 AM Post #17 |
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HiMAT Laharl!
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Munchkinning = cooler word than min/maxing. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 15 2006, 01:57 AM Post #18 |
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I broke my shades!
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Didn't know about it. >_> |
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| iammax | Sep 15 2006, 10:36 AM Post #19 |
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Bors > Barth > Wendy Wendy would be a good Swordmaster, probably. |
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| Mario123v2 | Sep 15 2006, 09:27 PM Post #20 |
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Deep South Commando
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One question: If we teens/young adults can see optimal growths and such for units, why can't the developers? I mean, nuking units that need nerfing is one thing, but I daresay that they really screwed up Gilliam's 305 growth potential beyond the point of nuking (guaranteed 6 Spd [5 GK] with a 30 growth is outright wrong). |
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| Soul | Sep 15 2006, 10:03 PM Post #21 |
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Ooh, my head is spinning...
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Obviously, it was never the developers' intention to maximize a character's potential, otherwise, we'd see alot more balanced characters than we have |
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| Crimmy | Sep 18 2006, 01:01 AM Post #22 |
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sausages, nanako
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Matthias, Level 17 Nomad Fina, Level 9 Soldier Ulrich, Level 1 Knight | |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 18 2006, 02:09 AM Post #23 |
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I broke my shades!
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Of course they can. Mario, don't you realize having good and bad units is intentional? Having a character totally ub erized is boring. It's part of the fun of the game to create characters that have bad, speed, bad luck, bad str, etc. Otherwise, every mage, every knight, every fighter would be indentical, and that wouldn't make any sense. Gilliam's MEANT to be slow ; he's a Knight, and his stat build is that he's slow. Of course, augmenting his speed growth would make him better. But why would they need to do it? |
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| Mario123v2 | Sep 18 2006, 08:31 PM Post #24 |
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Deep South Commando
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Of course he's meant to be slow, I know that. I don't think they should have made him THAT slow, though; 30 growth is lucky if it goes anywhere (at 20/1, Gilliam barely breaks 10 Speed with the promotion gains; that just seems slow, even for a Knight). |
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| Bears | Sep 18 2006, 08:33 PM Post #25 |
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Ozzy manages a whole 1 or so Spd above that. |
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes". 4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting. 4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama. | |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 19 2006, 02:11 AM Post #26 |
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I broke my shades!
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There ARE slower Knights. He's that. It's his weakness. It's what makes him a non-totally-uber character. It's what makes him more unique, in a way, more interesting. IIRC' Oswin's Spd growth is 30, too, and Brom and Gatrie's are 25. So 30 isn't exactly such a horrible growth. |
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