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*Watches Gilliam get killed by a 1% crit*
Topic Started: Sep 14 2006, 09:12 PM (183 Views)
Sonix
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Saur, Ivy saur!

:OSNAPZ:

*Blames RNG*

Meh. He always got DEF screwed (Somehow) for me anyways.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
I broke my shades!

My Gilliams are often Str raped, personally. <_<
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Bears


7 Spd, 20/9.

>_<
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
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Mario123v2
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Raped in general; 55 growth is ridiculously nice for Defense, but at the cost of everything else except HP (well, Strength too kinda, but not as much as HP/Def), I'm skeptical.

It would be nice if his growths were better distributed, like so:

Original:
HP: 90
Str: 45
Skl: 35
Spd: 30
Def: 55
Res: 20
Lck: 30

Total: 305
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Revamped:
HP: 80
Str: 50
Skl: 30
Spd: 40
Def: 50
Res: 25
Lck: 30

Total: 305

That way, his Speed is decent for a Knight and equivalent to Franz's Strength, his Defense is still awesome, his HP is still awesome, his Strength is better, and his three most screwable stats are coincidentally Sacred Stones's three worst stats.

Edit: Squid, that means that in 25 levels, he got one point of Speed, which is expected of a 4 growth, not a 30. You got really screwed out of a deal there, my friend.
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Also, a better line for what we did in Afganistan:

All your base are belong to U.S.

You, sir, win.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
I broke my shades!

His Speed would be... decent, for a Knight?

I've never seen a Knight with more than 30% SPD growth in the FEs I played. 40% is overkill. >_>
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*uses Draco Meteor*

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Abyssal_Shrimp
Sep 14 2006, 07:40 PM
His Speed would be... decent, for a Knight?

I've never seen a Knight with more than 30% SPD growth in the FEs I played. 40% is overkill. >_>

Christen, 45% Spd and 11 base as a level 14 Armor Knight? >_<

Also, Mario: 20/4 Nino, 11 Mag. I think she had something like 26 Luck, but the Mag...
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
I broke my shades!

I still didn't play your FE, Squid. >_>

I'll correct that statement if I ever do.

2 points of Mag over 18 levels? And after going through all the ain of training Nino... mean. >_>
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Bears


It may not have been that awful, but it was no more than 12 at 20/6. I'm serious.

But, I used h4x that game.
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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Bears


Only to make raising her less of a pain.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

I think Wendy has a speed growth higher then 30%, I'll go check up on that >_>;;

EDIT: Yup, 40%

Coincidentally, Bors also has that growth for speed >.>;;
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Me: The FE6 knights sucked. Bors had a higher speed growth than defense, skill, or strength. And the cap in FE6 was 21 or so.
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

That is true

But hell, FE6 is the game where the highest def growth (Aside from Karel) is 40%, Bors is only behind that by 5%
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Flare's clone says (5:22 PM):
You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

Quote:
 
[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Mario123v2
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I still think my Knight is the best possible stat distribution for a Knight with 305 growths.

Anyone object (and if so, have ideas for tweaks)?
Zap
 
Also, a better line for what we did in Afganistan:

All your base are belong to U.S.

You, sir, win.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
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It's min-maxing. Of course it works well. >_>
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Munchkinning = cooler word than min/maxing.

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Abyssal_Shrimp
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Sep 14 2006, 11:44 PM
Munchkinning = cooler word than min/maxing.

Didn't know about it. >_>
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Bors > Barth > Wendy

Wendy would be a good Swordmaster, probably.
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Mario123v2
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One question: If we teens/young adults can see optimal growths and such for units, why can't the developers? I mean, nuking units that need nerfing is one thing, but I daresay that they really screwed up Gilliam's 305 growth potential beyond the point of nuking (guaranteed 6 Spd [5 GK] with a 30 growth is outright wrong).
Zap
 
Also, a better line for what we did in Afganistan:

All your base are belong to U.S.

You, sir, win.
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Obviously, it was never the developers' intention to maximize a character's potential, otherwise, we'd see alot more balanced characters than we have
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Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!

Quote:
 
Flare's clone says (5:22 PM):
You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

Quote:
 
[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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sausages, nanako

But dosnt Gilliam have Prophecy?
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Abyssal_Shrimp
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Mario123v2
Sep 15 2006, 07:27 PM
One question: If we teens/young adults can see optimal growths and such for units, why can't the developers? I mean, nuking units that need nerfing is one thing, but I daresay that they really screwed up Gilliam's 305 growth potential beyond the point of nuking (guaranteed 6 Spd [5 GK] with a 30 growth is outright wrong).

Of course they can.

Mario, don't you realize having good and bad units is intentional? Having a character totally ub erized is boring. It's part of the fun of the game to create characters that have bad, speed, bad luck, bad str, etc. Otherwise, every mage, every knight, every fighter would be indentical, and that wouldn't make any sense.

Gilliam's MEANT to be slow ; he's a Knight, and his stat build is that he's slow. Of course, augmenting his speed growth would make him better. But why would they need to do it?
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Mario123v2
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Of course he's meant to be slow, I know that. I don't think they should have made him THAT slow, though; 30 growth is lucky if it goes anywhere (at 20/1, Gilliam barely breaks 10 Speed with the promotion gains; that just seems slow, even for a Knight).
Zap
 
Also, a better line for what we did in Afganistan:

All your base are belong to U.S.

You, sir, win.
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Bears


Ozzy manages a whole 1 or so Spd above that.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
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Mario123v2
Sep 18 2006, 06:31 PM
Of course he's meant to be slow, I know that. I don't think they should have made him THAT slow, though; 30 growth is lucky if it goes anywhere (at 20/1, Gilliam barely breaks 10 Speed with the promotion gains; that just seems slow, even for a Knight).

There ARE slower Knights. He's that. It's his weakness. It's what makes him a non-totally-uber character. It's what makes him more unique, in a way, more interesting.

IIRC' Oswin's Spd growth is 30, too, and Brom and Gatrie's are 25. So 30 isn't exactly such a horrible growth.
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