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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 11 2006, 11:00 PM (1,599 Views) | |
| User33 | Nov 11 2006, 11:00 PM Post #1 |
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Meh. Franz.
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From VincentASM of FESS
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| KJ456 | Nov 11 2006, 11:17 PM Post #2 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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Hmmm... If Mikaya's not the main lord, she'll most likely be a Yuria. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 11 2006, 11:21 PM Post #3 |
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I broke my shades!
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15 HP, 2 Def and 4 Res? Ouch. >_> |
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| User33 | Nov 11 2006, 11:22 PM Post #4 |
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Meh. Franz.
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2 Strength, 7 Magic, 8 Skill, 7 Speed and 10 Luck make up for it |
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| Angelix | Nov 11 2006, 11:28 PM Post #5 |
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So very wrong.
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Mikaya IS the main character, along with a possible Eddie and a possible Sothe. We don't have to be called Lord to be the main character. Also, the first chapter/prologue, you have only Mikaya and Eddie. Noyce now looks like some rich d00d. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 11 2006, 11:30 PM Post #6 |
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I broke my shades!
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Not in early game durability. |
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Kruen, level 20/5 Berserker Xiella, level 20/1 Guardian Fernand, level 5 Knight Aurelia, level 8 Dragonrider Mariann, level 4 Hunter RETIRED Raedul, level 20/20 Paladin Tancred, level 100 Tangrowth | |
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| KJ456 | Nov 11 2006, 11:41 PM Post #7 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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Magic user. And if her growths match her bases, her late-game durability must be <3 |
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| Angelix | Nov 11 2006, 11:46 PM Post #8 |
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So very wrong.
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We HAVE to find their growths! NAO! |
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Characters: ~Active~ Lucia, Level 17 Clare Level 6 Allius, Level 5 | |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 12 2006, 12:29 AM Post #9 |
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I broke my shades!
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Yeah, she becomes a beast in dodge in the later levels, likely. But it doesn't help too much in the early game levels. I mean, if the common brigand is anything like in FE9, she's 2HKO'd by everything << |
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Kruen, level 20/5 Berserker Xiella, level 20/1 Guardian Fernand, level 5 Knight Aurelia, level 8 Dragonrider Mariann, level 4 Hunter RETIRED Raedul, level 20/20 Paladin Tancred, level 100 Tangrowth | |
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| KJ456 | Nov 12 2006, 12:54 AM Post #10 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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Eh, I don't recall any lords being a downright liability for any reasons past promotion time. Except Eliwood, but I'm sure that's somewhat due to my RNG. Leaf, maybe, but he has immunity to the horrid fatigue system. |
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| Kinkajou | Nov 12 2006, 01:43 AM Post #11 |
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I make iron women out of iron maidens
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*runs through topic screaming "DARK MAGIC IS BACK!!!"* |
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"Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice. From what I've tasted of desire I hold with those who favor fire. But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate To say that for destruction ice Is also great And would suffice." Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice" | |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 12 2006, 02:13 AM Post #12 |
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I broke my shades!
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Eliwood : 18 HP, 5 Def, 0 Res Lyn : 16 HP, 2 Def, 0 Res, but she had swords to gain WTA over your causal brigands. Mikaya : 15 HP, 2 Def, 4 Res. Unless most early game enemies are dark users. well... |
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Kruen, level 20/5 Berserker Xiella, level 20/1 Guardian Fernand, level 5 Knight Aurelia, level 8 Dragonrider Mariann, level 4 Hunter RETIRED Raedul, level 20/20 Paladin Tancred, level 100 Tangrowth | |
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| Soul | Nov 12 2006, 03:06 AM Post #13 |
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Ooh, my head is spinning...
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Uhh, she's a mage, isn't she? She shouldn't be attacked by a pack of enemies anyway, and if she is, there's something wrong with your strategy <_< |
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| Spotted Zebra | Nov 12 2006, 03:09 AM Post #14 |
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Feeling spritely.
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Is Mikaya actually holding/putting away a spellbook in the background of her level-up screenshot? It looks like it to me.... I wonder if they'll finally offer an explanation for magic tomes breaking after being used a certain amount of times. That'd be nice. >.> |
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"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it or does it." --- Malcolm X. "The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My characters: Naia, level 20/11 Valkyrie | Firenze, level 20/9 Mystic | Lynore, level 16 Nomad Mu Arae, level 17 Pegasus Knight | Mars, level 7 Professor | Gloria, level 11 Fortune-TellerSpot prefers to stat in battles since she usually lacks sufficient time to run them through an RNG. The Mamkutes' profile Skye's profile | |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 12 2006, 04:09 AM Post #15 |
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I broke my shades!
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If you have only 2 units at the start, she's bound to be attacked. |
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Kruen, level 20/5 Berserker Xiella, level 20/1 Guardian Fernand, level 5 Knight Aurelia, level 8 Dragonrider Mariann, level 4 Hunter RETIRED Raedul, level 20/20 Paladin Tancred, level 100 Tangrowth | |
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| Soul | Nov 12 2006, 04:26 AM Post #16 |
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Ooh, my head is spinning...
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Not by a pack of guys >_> |
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| Koracross | Nov 12 2006, 04:42 AM Post #17 |
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SCRUB SCRUB SCRUB
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wait...you start out with a Myrmidon and a Mage?0_o; Uhh...they both dont seem like they should be in the middle of a pack of guys?unless he starts with like, 5 killer swords. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 12 2006, 04:44 AM Post #18 |
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I broke my shades!
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Why not? If Eliwood and Lyn could be attacked by a pack of guys, I don't see what prevents her from being so. She has to attack too if she's to be of any use. >> |
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| Soul | Nov 12 2006, 04:52 AM Post #19 |
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Ooh, my head is spinning...
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Cause the first chapter doesn't normally have packs of guys? |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 12 2006, 04:57 AM Post #20 |
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I broke my shades!
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They can have a good deal. *Points to FE8 chapter 1* That one had a decent amount of foes. And the point is, she has worse durability early game than pretty much any Lord I've seen. |
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Kruen, level 20/5 Berserker Xiella, level 20/1 Guardian Fernand, level 5 Knight Aurelia, level 8 Dragonrider Mariann, level 4 Hunter RETIRED Raedul, level 20/20 Paladin Tancred, level 100 Tangrowth | |
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| Shire Guardian | Nov 12 2006, 06:46 AM Post #21 |
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Tink a link
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Well, I guess we just won't know until FE 10 comes out here, will we? |
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Actively Battling: Pengael lvl 20/17 Sniper Angel lvl 20/10 Mage Knight Noah lvl 16 Monk Azul lvl 10 Shaman Liere lvl 20/6 Crusader Ciel lvl 1 Corsair Retired: Hithlum lvl 20/20 Falcoknight Cyril lvl 20/20 Sage Vince lvl 20/20 Paladin Chiback lvl 20/20 Hero I accept PM challenges! ^_^ BAH! | |
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| Tookie | Nov 12 2006, 06:54 AM Post #22 |
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Pretend I put something witty here.
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Lest you forget Mr. Sword guy. I see narrow passages. Block them off with Sword guy, then Mikaya is safe. |
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| Angelix | Nov 12 2006, 07:36 AM Post #23 |
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So very wrong.
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But that's chapter THREE. |
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Characters: ~Active~ Lucia, Level 17 Clare Level 6 Allius, Level 5 | |
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| Tookie | Nov 12 2006, 07:56 AM Post #24 |
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Pretend I put something witty here.
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It is? |
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| User33 | Nov 12 2006, 12:36 PM Post #25 |
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Meh. Franz.
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Here's the video of Chapter 1: http://www.gametrailers.com/downloadnew.php?id=14693 And the other one at Gamevideos was Chapter 3. Also: Kard is a B Rank Knife, with a Critical of 25. Its description does not state that only Sothe can use it. Also the weapon levels in the status screen are apparently laid out in a similar style to FE4/5, and includes a rank of Knives. It was not mentioned what other weapon levels were included (like magic...). Apparently you can play the game with the Classic controller (already mentioned), a Gamecube controller or the Wii remote (held sideways like a NES controller). People were only allowed to play for 5 minutes at a time. On completing Chapter 1, you got a "To be continued...". If anybody dies in Chapter 3 you get a Game Over. Biorhythm only includes "good" and "bad" conditions now, as opposed to FE9's "very good", "good", "bad" and "very bad" ("very good" was just the same as "good" and same with the bad conditions). |
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| WJC | Nov 12 2006, 04:03 PM Post #26 |
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Magic = 1-2 Rng = Avoid enemy counterattacks and hide behind other PCs |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 12 2006, 04:21 PM Post #27 |
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I broke my shades!
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Avoid enemy counterattacks, true, but I still have issues about hiding behind others when there's like 1 other PC << |
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| Crimmy | Nov 12 2006, 06:20 PM Post #28 |
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sausages, nanako
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*Sees Video* Don't tell me that FE10 has FE9's horrible magic... Eddie is going to have alot more use since he's a myrmidon, hence having swords, and upon FE tradition, you start by fighting axe-using bandits. Hence allowing Eddie to get tons of EXP, unlike Mikaya who has light magic and can probably be one hit KO'd by brigands. Unless they is a spam of Shaman or somthing... |
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Matthias, Level 17 Nomad Fina, Level 9 Soldier Ulrich, Level 1 Knight | |
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| Mario123v2 | Nov 12 2006, 11:50 PM Post #29 |
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Deep South Commando
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Hide behind PCs? Good luck with that considering your shield is a Myrmidon. >_> |
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| Soul | Nov 12 2006, 11:55 PM Post #30 |
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Ooh, my head is spinning...
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You're acting like that's the way it's gonna be for the rest of the game... |
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| Spotted Zebra | Nov 13 2006, 01:14 AM Post #31 |
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Feeling spritely.
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And you're also acting like the enemies have decent skill and can actually hit either of our fabulous new allies, despite starting enemies in other FE games having horrid skill.... >.> |
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"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it or does it." --- Malcolm X. "The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My characters: Naia, level 20/11 Valkyrie | Firenze, level 20/9 Mystic | Lynore, level 16 Nomad Mu Arae, level 17 Pegasus Knight | Mars, level 7 Professor | Gloria, level 11 Fortune-TellerSpot prefers to stat in battles since she usually lacks sufficient time to run them through an RNG. The Mamkutes' profile Skye's profile | |
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| Angelix | Nov 13 2006, 06:47 AM Post #32 |
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Not to mention +15 Eva/-15 hit from WTA. Oh, and the fact that Eddie will have high speed (and probably luck). Something tells me Eddie will be more than a Myrmidon. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 13 2006, 11:01 AM Post #33 |
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I broke my shades!
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I think I clearly said "early game durability". And hit rates in the beginning can be decent, cause dodge is lowish, even among characters with good Spd/Lck. Brignads got hit rates in the 40s against Lyn including the triangle disadvantage, so they can hit 55-60 against Mikaya at that point. Considering an Iron Axe still has 8 Mt and 75 hit, a brigand with 4 Str/2 Skl/0 Lck is dealing 10 dmg to Mikaya with a hit rate of 53. Given that, on average, she doesn't survive 3 attacks. And that doesn't account the possible fact that she might be slowed down by whatever tome she has. |
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| Jmyster | Nov 13 2006, 03:06 PM Post #34 |
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I'm just going to have Touhou infect everything now
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Kinda of a moot point since early game durability is meaningless. If you take a look at the FE's that are actually semi-challenging, you will find many characters who are considered to be "good" "great" or "excellent" who really have craptastic durability to start out with. It is quite simply, easy to level someone up early in the game, even if they are not suited to direct physical encounters. Aside from hiding behind other units or obstacles, teamwork is often used to get experience, and doing such an act is simple giving how pathetic enemies are in the early going. If you're one to leave your fledgling magic using unit stranded out in the open, and ready to be tri-attacked or double teamed at any given interval, then that player doesn't exactly have a keen grasp on strategy in the "early going". Also, magic tends to rend every type of enemy unit early on, and that's even ignoring the possiblity of constant DA's against foes who are likely to have low speed. 4 Res is actually an excellent starting stat for level 1. It is rare that enemy mages have high power early on (pathetic usually), and they probably will not be exceeding 5 damage off of her base res. Mikaya is better off than quite a few FE characters in terms of how she starts out. Her dodge is decent enough to risk a direct encounter every now and then, and her stats should presumably raise quite nicely until she can more than handle being alone. This isn't a problem. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 13 2006, 03:20 PM Post #35 |
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'mkay, I still don't see what point of mine that was countered since I really never said Mikaya couldn't turn out great (quite the opposite, actually, she's likely to be a beast in the endgame). I also never said anything about her offense, which is quite nice as well. Yet, she still dies in 2 hits from physicals in the early game (3 attacks on average incorporating hit rate), and that is in no way meaningless. It is the worse early game durability of an important character I've seen in FE, and it is a hindrance, since I don't see a unit being attacked twice in a round being too farfetched considered she'll prolly be the weakest unit in the beginning, meaning she draw foes on her unless you manage to find a way to block all possibilities to reach her, and that's not necessarily easily when you have only two or three units. Now, I'll repeat, I never said that she wasn't good because of that, I was pointing out the fact that her durability was bad in the start, and that it has a bit of an impact on her overall usefulness. |
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| Vidoof | Nov 13 2006, 03:30 PM Post #36 |
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BRAUGAGUGAUGUAUHGHAUHAU
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(offers popcorn to random person) |
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| KJ456 | Nov 13 2006, 03:31 PM Post #37 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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*Runs off with entire stock* |
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| Vidoof | Nov 13 2006, 03:33 PM Post #38 |
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BRAUGAGUGAUGUAUHGHAUHAU
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O_O BASTARD! (pops, like, five whole bags more) |
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Alonzo - Arbiter: Hero (Retired) Reginald - Aegis - Lv. 3 Gypsy (Rate his new sprites, please!) Morana - Psychopomp - Lv. 2 Archer Not really battling, unless some strange urge strikes me. ---
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| KJ456 | Nov 13 2006, 03:40 PM Post #39 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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I assume that means I don't have to share or return them? *Greedily consumes* |
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| Vidoof | Nov 13 2006, 03:42 PM Post #40 |
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-`- Sure. You're lucky one of the main things I do at work is pop popcorn. Which is sad. I tired of it swiftly. |
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| Jmyster | Nov 13 2006, 03:56 PM Post #41 |
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I'm just going to have Touhou infect everything now
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Eliwood, Lyn, Roy {insert other less important but still early game characters here} don't exactly start with good stats either. They also must attack directly at this point, always risking a counter. Triangle advanatage doesn't always cut it when you are at greater risk of being countered. I think you are underestimating the power of magic. I mentioned her offense because it is not wise to ignore it. She is a low level mage, and durability isn't exactly a strong suit of theirs early on, especially at low levels. Mikaya can almost always attack out of counter range, and gain exp/finish foes/etc without fear of being hit at all. This is where her offense comes in. She deals heavy damage with her magic to the majority of early game foes, and if she gets a DA (which is easily possible with a single level up or weighed down foes) then she can kill in a single round without help. When she actually is not attacking out of counter range, she is probably facing a magic user who deals considerably less damage. Overall she is dealing more damage than many other characters, and actually getting attacked less than other people on average. All of this being because she is in fact a mage. So she can die in two hits during the very, very early part of the game...that is not an important impact, really. I don't recall Lugh/Lilina/Soren being hard to train or losing any of their early luster due to "early game durability", and in terms of starting time and for some starting stats, Mikaya seems to already have an edge on the. Many units very early on can die in two hits, but that does not stop them from being effective. You seem to be under the impression that Mikaya is going to be mauled by numerous foes on the enemy phase, because there are too many enemies for the group to handle. I doubt this will happen. Unlike fire emblem 4, enemies are not assulating you in large groups. Like most FE's (for the early chapter), you simply draw one or two in at a time, and slay them for the experience. There may be quite a few enemies, but they tend to be passive, waiting for the player to enter their attack range. You don't charge into a nest of enemies madly. Also, not all battles take place in an open field, so the chances of multiple enemies reaching Mikaya on an enemy phase gets even slimmer. Early on, most units also tend to have a fair share of vulenaries. Even without a healer, if Mikaya or someone else was attacked by a foe and injured, healing shouldn't be too much of a problem. Most magic units start with below average durability, but have stats and abilities that make up for it. Mikaya will be a contributing member to the team from the start, regardless of low hp and defense stats. Her overall usefulness is not impacted. That's all I'm saying. Not trying to annoy you or anything. I also have to go for the day, so I won't be around till' much later. |
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| Crimmy | Nov 13 2006, 10:24 PM Post #42 |
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Yet, in Chapter 1, Mikaya did 10 damage to a bandit with 25 health. Eddie did the same amount, but could DA. Let's just hope Mikaya dosnt get super speed screwed like Soren in my history of FE9. And also, at those rates, Eddie could DA, leaving the bandit with 5 health, and hence allow Mikaya to finish off with a light spell. But, this may feel like babysitting Nino, not as bad, however. And to concur Jmy's opinion about not having open fields, Chapter 1's map looked pretty urban, hence allowing some levels of protection. |
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| Serene Steelzard | Nov 14 2006, 06:37 AM Post #43 |
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"This may feel like babysitting Nino"?. Not at all. That's what I do with all my magic characters at the start of FE7. I also did it with Rebecca and even Eliwood too. I send my other characters to weaken them and then use Rebecca or Eliwood or whoever to finish them off to get the killing exp. It's called good exp management. Babysitting Nino is different because you're up against high level characters with a severely underlevelled one. Mikaya could stand up to these bandits alone for at least a couple of attacks. Nino can't. I also personally find it somewhat difficult to just weaken enemies in Nino's chapter on EM as I tend to have high crit rates or my characters are just plain too strong to not kill them. I doubt you have that problem there. |
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| Angelix | Nov 14 2006, 07:55 AM Post #44 |
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Use strength-raped Florina with Slim Sword :D |
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| KJ456 | Nov 14 2006, 11:25 AM Post #45 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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Why weaken them? Just have Becky shield Nino while she takes them all on her own. She gains exp faster that way. >_> |
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| User33 | Nov 14 2006, 09:09 PM Post #46 |
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Meh. Franz.
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The anima triangle is back too Sword Fire Lance Thunder Axe Wind Bow Light Knife Dark Staff ??? Wonder what the other rank is... |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 14 2006, 10:25 PM Post #47 |
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Wait, people are taking this to the level of Nino? Woah, I never meant something that extreme. Is it that hard to see? She's weaker than all the main characters I've seen so far in FE. Eliwood/Eirika/Ike were much more durable. Lyn was somewhat weak, but god, she was in Lyn mode, whose early chapters are just so stupidly easy it's not funny. Now, I'm not saying Mikaya will have a lot of trouble in the beggining. But, she'll have more than other lord type units. Magic will save her a counterattack on her phase, but she might not even be able to kill her target anyway, and is subject to death in two hits. |
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| Jmyster | Nov 15 2006, 12:26 AM Post #48 |
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I'm just going to have Touhou infect everything now
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I'm not the one who mentioned Nino, so don't look at me. All early chapters are "stupidly" easy, just in varying degrees. That's actually one of the points here. She is not weaker than Eliwood, Lyn or Roy for that matter in terms of starting stats and abilities. Erika too. The lot of them are also subject to many two death hits as well if we're talking starting stats. For example: Level 1 Erika only scratches her foes, and takes hard counter damage and attack phase damage in the first two chapters. She needs her prf to be able to fight for decent damage if needed, and must rely on dodge if under too much pressure. I don't recall that every being a problem though. Eliwood and Lyn don't perform much better either with their starting stats. Neither can OHKO without criticals, and they must take counters if the enemy was not weakened. In other words, they put themselves at more risk to get experience then Mikaya does. Since they are physical units, the have more trouble chipping away at health to get exp, and sometimes have to be put in harm's way. Mikaya will have no problem getting experience without great risk. She'll have no trouble at all from what I can see. It'll be a walk in the park. You seem to be underestimating the ability to avoid counters. Who is at greater risk? Someone with a few extra points of HP+DEF who will almost always be countered, and cannot fight back when attacked from afar, plus has weaker resistance...or someone who can gain exp and more easily level by avoiding counters? As I mentioned before, she won't be facing times where more than two people attack her on the enemy phase while she is at very, very, low levels. If she does get hit, she backs up and uses vulenaries like any other lord/early unit during early chapter fighting (if no healer is present). Most people have no problem with Erk/Soren/possible Lute in terms of starting stats and appearance time, and they are in the same boat with early coming, and "low" defenses. Unless you're going to purposely place her in the range of as many enemies on screen as possible (which is usually a death sentece for about...any non-Jeigan character) than her durability is not a problem because she is a mage, and her other starting stats are decent. She'll level just as easily as early lords and other level 1 early units, with equal or less trouble. |
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| Angelix | Nov 15 2006, 03:54 AM Post #49 |
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So very wrong.
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I'm going to control Mikaya. Maxed everything FTW! |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 15 2006, 03:54 AM Post #50 |
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Lyn mode is significantly easier than any early chapter set of the other FE games. The number of enemies is ridiculous compared to the others.
She IS weaker than them. Eliwood is not 2HKO'd by your causal bandit ; with 5 Def and triangle advantage, he's taking 7 damage a hit from your causal 5 Str Iron Axe brigand. As far as offense goes, I don't really see how she's that much stronger than them, Mikaya's not OHKOing and even maybe not doubling her foes in the early game as well, so I don't see how she has an edge. Plus, unless the enemies are knights, they don't have much more defense than they have resistance in the early game, so the other lords don't really have an offense disadvantage against them, especially considering Lyn and Eirika who just double right off the bat.
Unless there's suddenly a decent amount of ranged attackers and mage in the game beginning, I fail to see how not being able to counterattack at range and having low Res is a bother here. The only advantage Mikaya has is avoiding counters. That's a very good ability, I'm able to see that. But it doesn't make her much safer than the other Lords just because she avoids one attack per turn when she, on average, dies one turn quicker anyway. She's not all that much at a greater risk than them, but she certainly isn't safer as well.
But she dies if hit twice, and is easier to hit than Eirika, who's about the only other lords that dies in two hits and has a chance of being attacked twice as well. (If you get Lyn attacked twice in her turn in LM, there's a problem.)
Well, like anybody. That isn't really a point for her. I repeat that my point is that she'll be harder to raise than the other main characters. And not by that much, but more difficult nonetheless.
Erk joins in Lyn mode, at chapter 5 which is less challenging than FE9 chapter 1. Lute is in a chapter with zombies. Who have 0 in everystat save HP and Str. Unless the foes in Mikaya's chapter are as scarce as Lyn mode/as pathetic as FE8 revenants, then yes, Mikaya's gonna be harder than them to train. As for, Soren, raising him IS a tad on the rough side on chapter 4. He dies quickly and doesn't kill anything in one round unless adept kicks in (fat chance, 6% per attack), and there's a considerable wave of aggressive enemies. It ain't really "hard", but I certainly don't qualify that "a walk in the park". Then again, he's probably harder to raise than Mikaya will be because he joins a bit further into the game at the same level than her. But I'm not claiming it'll be hard to train her. Just a bit more annoying than the other lords. Now yes, she shouldn't be at that much of a risk if you don't play reckless. That goes for pretty much anybody, really. Yet, the point is that she dies faster than all of the other lords on average and that avoiding one single counter per round isn't making her safer than them, especially considering that she's not getting out of that 2HKO situation unless she hits 18 HP/ 3 Def, which might or might not take a while depending on her growths. She won't be all that hard to level, but certainly not with less trouble than the other lords. |
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| Soul | Nov 15 2006, 04:24 AM Post #51 |
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From what I can tell, FE10's AS system is the exact same as FE9's, and seeing how heavy Axes are, would your typical bandit suffer AS loss? >_> |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 15 2006, 04:26 AM Post #52 |
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And what about Light Magic? 'twas very heavy too. |
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| Soul | Nov 15 2006, 04:27 AM Post #53 |
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Light had 4 Weight IIRC, that's no where near enough to be as significant as what a bandit will lose |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 15 2006, 04:32 AM Post #54 |
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Yeah. Might double a few enemies out there, but according to what people said here, she wasn't 2HKOing them either anyway. |
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| KJ456 | Nov 15 2006, 12:03 PM Post #55 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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Why, exactly, are people having page-long arguments about the early-game perfomance of a character from a game not even out yet? >_> |
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| Chrono | Nov 15 2006, 12:05 PM Post #56 |
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What's the password?
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We're on a board full of the Fire Emblem equivalents of Red Mage, what do you think? |
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| iammax | Nov 15 2006, 12:07 PM Post #57 |
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Remember how much people were arguing about FE9 on gamefaqs? Well, we're like that, except we actually have brains, so there'll be a lot of text walls, probbably. |
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| KJ456 | Nov 15 2006, 12:51 PM Post #58 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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But I'm just as argu-ey as most people here, and even I find this a bit... extreme. |
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| Jmyster | Nov 15 2006, 09:40 PM Post #59 |
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I'm just going to have Touhou infect everything now
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I'm in withdrawal KJ. I haven't debated a thing for 6 months. Shrimp. I have already typed up a long counter as always, but I don't feel a need to post it at the moment. Now the only proof we have is an almost complete/complete chapter 1. I have a question first: Dropping your possible opinion on certain stats, can you actually prove that she will have more trouble than the other lords, and that she is actually going to have a harder time? If you feel you can prove or have proved that beyond a reasonable doubt, then I'll continue. If not...it'll have to wait until better evidence is available. Even though I want to debate, I don't want it to be 100% "logical" conjecture. It's an empty argument. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 16 2006, 12:24 AM Post #60 |
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Well yeah, the whole point of this debate is kinda pointless if the whole thing is crushed by the game setup being completely different. I'm okay with that. |
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| iammax | Nov 16 2006, 11:44 AM Post #61 |
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Yeah, let's wait until we actually get the game. <_< |
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| User33 | Nov 16 2006, 03:13 PM Post #62 |
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Meh. Franz.
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Comes out February in Japan, so we'll have a good idea. Although Light will have a disadvantage against 4 different magic types... |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 16 2006, 03:24 PM Post #63 |
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Four? Wind, Thunder, Fire, and... what else? |
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| Tyrone Buggums | Nov 16 2006, 04:00 PM Post #64 |
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Earth, Water, or Heart? >_> |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Nov 16 2006, 04:04 PM Post #65 |
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I broke my shades!
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Uhh... maybe? <_< |
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| KJ456 | Nov 16 2006, 04:05 PM Post #66 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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Anima in general? Although I doubt that one'll exist. |
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| Angelix | Nov 16 2006, 04:59 PM Post #67 |
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I get to wait 'til June or something for that darn thing. |
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| User33 | Nov 16 2006, 10:27 PM Post #68 |
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Meh. Franz.
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Sorry, I meant 3. |
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| User33 | Dec 18 2006, 11:56 PM Post #69 |
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Meh. Franz.
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New info:
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| Soul | Dec 19 2006, 12:04 AM Post #70 |
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...Okay, while we don't know his growths yet, Sothe looks like he'll pwn in FE10 o.o Which is a nice change from his FE9 counterpart >_> |
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| Angelix | Dec 19 2006, 03:10 AM Post #71 |
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You should at least say that Vincent is the one who said that. >_> How can one say it looks like he'll pwn? His stats don't sound too impressive to me, and Kard/Kald could be something similar to Silver Sword. o.o |
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| Soul | Dec 19 2006, 03:17 AM Post #72 |
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I don't use Silver weaponry so meh >_> |
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| Spotted Zebra | Dec 19 2006, 05:10 PM Post #73 |
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Same here. It's surprising if I use steel weapons other than to increase weapon levels faster. >.> The problem with Kard having 15 crit is the fact that it doesn't take Sothe's crit into account. Either the enemies have luck, Sothe has some really bad skill (Kard could have 10 crit with the other 5 coming from Sothe, meaning that he'd have only 10 skill), or both. |
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| KJ456 | Dec 19 2006, 05:59 PM Post #74 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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A promoted thief really oughta have considerably more than 10 skill. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Dec 19 2006, 06:10 PM Post #75 |
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I broke my shades!
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That, or enemies actually have luck. >_> |
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| KJ456 | Dec 19 2006, 06:14 PM Post #76 |
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh
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Enemies tend to have luck in some FEs, though it rarely surpasses 5. <_< |
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| Silly Tee | Dec 19 2006, 06:35 PM Post #77 |
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xD hmmmmmmmm...wait, 40 luck cap? o_O |
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| User33 | Dec 19 2006, 09:40 PM Post #78 |
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Meh. Franz.
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I would of thought that was obvious, seeing as I credited him for everything else in this topic... |
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| Vidoof | Dec 20 2006, 12:33 AM Post #79 |
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THey brought it back to Anima-Light-Dark... probably just to appeal to the American audience. -`- Screw that... |
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| Vicas | Dec 20 2006, 12:54 AM Post #80 |
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.
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I don't quite see what's wrong with the anima/light/dark triangle, personally... |
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| Angelix | Dec 20 2006, 01:10 AM Post #81 |
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I liked the A-L-D triangle, and I think they'll have monks and shamans now. Which I like, mind you. |
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| Vidoof | Dec 20 2006, 02:23 AM Post #82 |
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Blegh, Lightning, Fire, Wind was the original. If anything, wouldn't returning to FE4's -- the most popular Fire Emblem, recall -- system be better than anything? |
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| Floopipoo | Dec 20 2006, 02:48 AM Post #83 |
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Painting the world the way you want it [:
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Me think Vid has some sort of fanboy-ism he need to sort out <.< Looks to me like Sothe is getting back what he deserves for his suckiness in 9 <_<; |
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| Soul | Dec 20 2006, 02:50 AM Post #84 |
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Uhh, Vid, they brought back the Fire-Wind-Lightning triangle in FE9 >_> |
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| Spotted Zebra | Dec 20 2006, 03:19 AM Post #85 |
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I prefer the Anima/Light/Dark triangle, personally. It makes more sense to me; I can devise a logical explanation for Anima being effective against Light and so on, but not Fire being effective against Wind, et cetera (Water > Fire > Thunder > Water, on the other hand, is barely passable). Now, what would be really cool is if they did a double triangle--like Light > Dark > Anima (Fire > Wind > Thunder) > Light. |
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| iammax | Dec 20 2006, 11:41 AM Post #86 |
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So A-L-D is back? Sweet. |
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| Tookie | Dec 20 2006, 02:55 PM Post #87 |
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If Soren appears, he'd better use Dark. I don't want to eat my money. |
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| Soul | Dec 20 2006, 05:16 PM Post #88 |
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That's what they're doing actually >_> And I know a passable explaination as to why they set it up like that, but I don't really want to bore you all with WoTs so let's just say a wizard did it and be done with it >_> |
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| Spotted Zebra | Dec 20 2006, 06:21 PM Post #89 |
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They are? Dood, first a female magician for a main character, and now a double magic triangle? It's like they listened to my ramblings! |
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| Soul | Dec 20 2006, 06:42 PM Post #90 |
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Yes, haven't you been paying attention to this topic at all? <.<;; |
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| Spotted Zebra | Dec 20 2006, 06:45 PM Post #91 |
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For about the first 45 posts, yes, but apparently I didn't see the part about a double triangle. Or I saw it at FEU and forgot about it anyway. >.>; |
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| User33 | Dec 20 2006, 07:18 PM Post #92 |
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Meh. Franz.
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Yes, remember what the weapons were: Sword Fire Lance Thunder Axe Wind Bow Light Knife Dark Staff ??? |
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| iammax | Dec 21 2006, 11:40 AM Post #93 |
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I think they should reverse the triangle, since wind can blow fire out. >_> |
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| The MetalMew | Dec 21 2006, 11:57 AM Post #94 |
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There Can Only Be One!
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Wind can also spread fire, which is the logic they're going with. >.> |
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| iammax | Dec 21 2006, 11:58 AM Post #95 |
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DAMN YOU AND YOUR LOGIC! But I guess you're right on that one. |
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| Vicas | Dec 21 2006, 12:29 PM Post #96 |
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.
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Yeah, it only really puts out fires the size of candles, and that's only because the fire loses anything to burn on. |
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| Spotted Zebra | Dec 21 2006, 08:38 PM Post #97 |
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Feeling spritely.
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I'm not sure about Thunder beating Fire, though. One would think that it would be opposite since Thunder (a.k.a. lightning) can actually cause fires.... Water > Fire > Earth/Flora > Water makes the most sense, since water puts out fire, plant life absorbs and takes strength from water, and fire burns plant life. Fire > Thunder > Water/Ice > Fire also makes sense, since while fire melts ice, the ice turns into water that then extinguishes fire; thunder can create more fire and end up being overwhelmed by it; and water conducts electricity, so that thunder would be channeled through it back to the spellcaster. Can't quite figure out a logical explanation for thunder besting fire, though.... |
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"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it or does it." --- Malcolm X. "The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My characters: Naia, level 20/11 Valkyrie | Firenze, level 20/9 Mystic | Lynore, level 16 Nomad Mu Arae, level 17 Pegasus Knight | Mars, level 7 Professor | Gloria, level 11 Fortune-TellerSpot prefers to stat in battles since she usually lacks sufficient time to run them through an RNG. The Mamkutes' profile Skye's profile | |
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| User33 | Dec 21 2006, 10:59 PM Post #98 |
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Meh. Franz.
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| Soul | Dec 22 2006, 03:05 AM Post #99 |
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Ooh, my head is spinning...
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Do you really want me to bust out my WoTs, cause I will >_< |
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| Spotted Zebra | Dec 22 2006, 03:10 AM Post #100 |
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Feeling spritely.
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Only if you really, really want to, Souly. Doesn't really matter. I was talking half to myself in the first place, anyway. >.>; |
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"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it or does it." --- Malcolm X. "The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD
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