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New FE10 info!
Topic Started: Nov 11 2006, 11:00 PM (1,601 Views)
User33
Meh. Franz.

From VincentASM of FESS

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Okay, I have two sources and I've found some contradiction, but I'll let others judge. For the class names, apparently they are shown in both Katakana and Kanji. Kanji on the left, Katakana on the right

Sothe
Class: Thief (Rogue)
Skill: Protection

Mikaya
Class: Light Mage (Light Mage)
Skill: Healing Hand

Eddie
Class: Myrmidon (Blade)
Skill: Crtical +5, Continue OR Counter

Leonard
Class: Archer (Archer)
Skill: Wrath

Noyce
Class: Fighter ()
Skill: Nihil

Laura
Class: Cleric (Priest)

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A Game Over is received if Eddie dies.
Mikaya apparently speaks in a language, similar to galldr, but different (one person speculates that she might of the ancient race of the Grann Desert, the Zunanma*).
Biorhythm and skill Capacities are back.
The demo supposedly spans Chapters 1 and 3. At Chapter 1 you only have Mikaya and Eddie, with Leonard joining a bit later. Chapter 3 is at Nevassa and is the chapter that we saw in the Gamevideos movie. There you get Sothe and Laura (and presumedly Noyce as well).
Vulneraries have 8 uses (not sure if that's to make the demo easier). Also there is a new "Herb" item with 10 uses, but the amount of HP recovery decreases with each use.
Some person seemed to like the new Fire Emblem theme. Apparently it's much better than the FE9 one, with the main instruments being gentle instruments, like flutes.
Shove is now a skill, although all the characters seem to have it
Shove, Crtical+5 and Steal both have a Lock icon next to them, perhaps indicating they are Class skills
It seems Sothe is promoted and Kard is just a standard Knife
Enemies include Soldiers, Brigands and... Lance Armours
Mikaya's bird has a name : )

Random screenshot of Noyce.

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Oh, those strange icon next to Noyce and Laura (if anybody remembers)... I think they were "in making" icons. I think you can tell Noyce looks much different from when we last saw him in September.

So that's where the Katakana names for classes came from... Above Senshi (Fighter) is Faitaa (Fighter). I don't know why Eddie and Sothe's class names don't match though (Swordfighter/Blade and Thief/Rogue).

Noyce has the Shove and Awareness/Nihil skills. It seems like his total Capacity is pretty low though. Wasn't the maximum Capacity 20 for a non-promoted foot unit? To the right of the skills seems to the bonuses from supports or maybe in-built supports.

Also we have Mikaya's stats.

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It'd be interesting if she reached that 40 Luck cap...

And Dark magic is back
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh

Hmmm... If Mikaya's not the main lord, she'll most likely be a Yuria.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
I broke my shades!

15 HP, 2 Def and 4 Res? Ouch. >_>
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User33
Meh. Franz.

2 Strength, 7 Magic, 8 Skill, 7 Speed and 10 Luck make up for it
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So very wrong.

Mikaya IS the main character, along with a possible Eddie and a possible Sothe. We don't have to be called Lord to be the main character. Also, the first chapter/prologue, you have only Mikaya and Eddie.

Noyce now looks like some rich d00d.

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Abyssal_Shrimp
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User33
Nov 11 2006, 08:22 PM
2 Strength, 7 Magic, 8 Skill, 7 Speed and 10 Luck make up for it

Not in early game durability.
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Mariann, level 4 Hunter

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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh

Magic user. And if her growths match her bases, her late-game durability must be <3
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So very wrong.

We HAVE to find their growths! NAO!
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Abyssal_Shrimp
I broke my shades!

KJ456
Nov 11 2006, 08:41 PM
Magic user. And if her growths match her bases, her late-game durability must be <3

Yeah, she becomes a beast in dodge in the later levels, likely. But it doesn't help too much in the early game levels. I mean, if the common brigand is anything like in FE9, she's 2HKO'd by everything <<
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh

Eh, I don't recall any lords being a downright liability for any reasons past promotion time. Except Eliwood, but I'm sure that's somewhat due to my RNG. Leaf, maybe, but he has immunity to the horrid fatigue system.
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I make iron women out of iron maidens

*runs through topic screaming "DARK MAGIC IS BACK!!!"*
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And would suffice."

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Abyssal_Shrimp
I broke my shades!

KJ456
Nov 11 2006, 09:54 PM
Eh, I don't recall any lords being a downright liability for any reasons past promotion time. Except Eliwood, but I'm sure that's somewhat due to my RNG. Leaf, maybe, but he has immunity to the horrid fatigue system.

Eliwood : 18 HP, 5 Def, 0 Res
Lyn : 16 HP, 2 Def, 0 Res, but she had swords to gain WTA over your causal brigands.
Mikaya : 15 HP, 2 Def, 4 Res. Unless most early game enemies are dark users. well...
Kruen, level 20/5 Berserker
Xiella, level 20/1 Guardian
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Aurelia, level 8 Dragonrider
Mariann, level 4 Hunter

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Soul
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Uhh, she's a mage, isn't she? She shouldn't be attacked by a pack of enemies anyway, and if she is, there's something wrong with your strategy <_<
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Feeling spritely.

Is Mikaya actually holding/putting away a spellbook in the background of her level-up screenshot? It looks like it to me.... I wonder if they'll finally offer an explanation for magic tomes breaking after being used a certain amount of times. That'd be nice. >.>
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Soulavenger69
Nov 12 2006, 12:06 AM
Uhh, she's a mage, isn't she? She shouldn't be attacked by a pack of enemies anyway, and if she is, there's something wrong with your strategy <_<

If you have only 2 units at the start, she's bound to be attacked.
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Not by a pack of guys >_>
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Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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SCRUB SCRUB SCRUB

wait...you start out with a Myrmidon and a Mage?0_o;

Uhh...they both dont seem like they should be in the middle of a pack of guys?unless he starts with like, 5 killer swords.
Korit Lvl 20/12 Swordmaster "Need....More....Speed....ugh"
Sol Lvl 20/11 Wyvern Lord "Yay, I've capped Two Stats!"
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Abyssal_Shrimp
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Soulavenger69
Nov 12 2006, 01:26 AM
Not by a pack of guys >_>

Why not? If Eliwood and Lyn could be attacked by a pack of guys, I don't see what prevents her from being so. She has to attack too if she's to be of any use. >>
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Cause the first chapter doesn't normally have packs of guys?
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You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

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[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
I broke my shades!

They can have a good deal. *Points to FE8 chapter 1* That one had a decent amount of foes.

And the point is, she has worse durability early game than pretty much any Lord I've seen.
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Mariann, level 4 Hunter

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Tink a link

Well, I guess we just won't know until FE 10 comes out here, will we?
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Angel lvl 20/10 Mage Knight
Noah lvl 16 Monk
Azul lvl 10 Shaman
Liere lvl 20/6 Crusader
Ciel lvl 1 Corsair

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Pretend I put something witty here.

Lest you forget Mr. Sword guy.

I see narrow passages. Block them off with Sword guy, then Mikaya is safe.
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Okay.

You have been dressed down by Tookie for trolling.

This topic is now over. It can be mathematically proved that there is no adequate comeback to that simple fact.


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So very wrong.

But that's chapter THREE.
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Pretend I put something witty here.

It is?
Flare
 
Okay.

You have been dressed down by Tookie for trolling.

This topic is now over. It can be mathematically proved that there is no adequate comeback to that simple fact.


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User33
Meh. Franz.

Here's the video of Chapter 1:
http://www.gametrailers.com/downloadnew.php?id=14693

And the other one at Gamevideos was Chapter 3.

Also:

Kard is a B Rank Knife, with a Critical of 25. Its description does not state that only Sothe can use it. Also the weapon levels in the status screen are apparently laid out in a similar style to FE4/5, and includes a rank of Knives. It was not mentioned what other weapon levels were included (like magic...).

Apparently you can play the game with the Classic controller (already mentioned), a Gamecube controller or the Wii remote (held sideways like a NES controller).
People were only allowed to play for 5 minutes at a time.
On completing Chapter 1, you got a "To be continued...".
If anybody dies in Chapter 3 you get a Game Over.
Biorhythm only includes "good" and "bad" conditions now, as opposed to FE9's "very good", "good", "bad" and "very bad" ("very good" was just the same as "good" and same with the bad conditions).
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Abyssal_Shrimp
Nov 11 2006, 05:21 PM
15 HP, 2 Def and 4 Res? Ouch. >_>

Magic = 1-2 Rng = Avoid enemy counterattacks and hide behind other PCs
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Abyssal_Shrimp
I broke my shades!

Avoid enemy counterattacks, true, but I still have issues about hiding behind others when there's like 1 other PC <<
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Mariann, level 4 Hunter

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sausages, nanako

*Sees Video*

Don't tell me that FE10 has FE9's horrible magic...

Eddie is going to have alot more use since he's a myrmidon, hence having swords, and upon FE tradition, you start by fighting axe-using bandits. Hence allowing Eddie to get tons of EXP, unlike Mikaya who has light magic and can probably be one hit KO'd by brigands. Unless they is a spam of Shaman or somthing...
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Mario123v2
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Hide behind PCs? Good luck with that considering your shield is a Myrmidon. >_>
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

You're acting like that's the way it's gonna be for the rest of the game...
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Flare's clone says (5:22 PM):
You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

Quote:
 
[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Feeling spritely.

And you're also acting like the enemies have decent skill and can actually hit either of our fabulous new allies, despite starting enemies in other FE games having horrid skill.... >.>
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Flarebringer
 
I guess I'm not cut out for magical girl shows.

Someday, this is going to get quoted out of context.


Seth
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I like the italics in the post.

"Cleric by Seth"

It sounds like a fancy cologne.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Posted Image Naia, level 20/11 Valkyrie | Posted Image Firenze, level 20/9 Mystic | Posted Image Lynore, level 16 Nomad
Posted Image Mu Arae, level 17 Pegasus Knight | Posted Image Mars, level 7 Professor | Posted Image Gloria, level 11 Fortune-Teller

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So very wrong.

Not to mention +15 Eva/-15 hit from WTA. Oh, and the fact that Eddie will have high speed (and probably luck).

Something tells me Eddie will be more than a Myrmidon.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
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Soulavenger69
Nov 12 2006, 08:55 PM
You're acting like that's the way it's gonna be for the rest of the game...

I think I clearly said "early game durability".

And hit rates in the beginning can be decent, cause dodge is lowish, even among characters with good Spd/Lck. Brignads got hit rates in the 40s against Lyn including the triangle disadvantage, so they can hit 55-60 against Mikaya at that point.

Considering an Iron Axe still has 8 Mt and 75 hit, a brigand with 4 Str/2 Skl/0 Lck is dealing 10 dmg to Mikaya with a hit rate of 53. Given that, on average, she doesn't survive 3 attacks. And that doesn't account the possible fact that she might be slowed down by whatever tome she has.
Kruen, level 20/5 Berserker
Xiella, level 20/1 Guardian
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Aurelia, level 8 Dragonrider
Mariann, level 4 Hunter

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Kinda of a moot point since early game durability is meaningless. If you take a look at the FE's that are actually semi-challenging, you will find many characters who are considered to be "good" "great" or "excellent" who really have craptastic durability to start out with. It is quite simply, easy to level someone up early in the game, even if they are not suited to direct physical encounters. Aside from hiding behind other units or obstacles, teamwork is often used to get experience, and doing such an act is simple giving how pathetic enemies are in the early going. If you're one to leave your fledgling magic using unit stranded out in the open, and ready to be tri-attacked or double teamed at any given interval, then that player doesn't exactly have a keen grasp on strategy in the "early going".

Also, magic tends to rend every type of enemy unit early on, and that's even ignoring the possiblity of constant DA's against foes who are likely to have low speed. 4 Res is actually an excellent starting stat for level 1. It is rare that enemy mages have high power early on (pathetic usually), and they probably will not be exceeding 5 damage off of her base res. Mikaya is better off than quite a few FE characters in terms of how she starts out. Her dodge is decent enough to risk a direct encounter every now and then, and her stats should presumably raise quite nicely until she can more than handle being alone. This isn't a problem.
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'mkay, I still don't see what point of mine that was countered since I really never said Mikaya couldn't turn out great (quite the opposite, actually, she's likely to be a beast in the endgame). I also never said anything about her offense, which is quite nice as well.

Yet, she still dies in 2 hits from physicals in the early game (3 attacks on average incorporating hit rate), and that is in no way meaningless. It is the worse early game durability of an important character I've seen in FE, and it is a hindrance, since I don't see a unit being attacked twice in a round being too farfetched considered she'll prolly be the weakest unit in the beginning, meaning she draw foes on her unless you manage to find a way to block all possibilities to reach her, and that's not necessarily easily when you have only two or three units.

Now, I'll repeat, I never said that she wasn't good because of that, I was pointing out the fact that her durability was bad in the start, and that it has a bit of an impact on her overall usefulness.
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Xiella, level 20/1 Guardian
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh

*Runs off with entire stock*
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O_O BASTARD!

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Eliwood, Lyn, Roy {insert other less important but still early game characters here} don't exactly start with good stats either. They also must attack directly at this point, always risking a counter. Triangle advanatage doesn't always cut it when you are at greater risk of being countered. I think you are underestimating the power of magic. I mentioned her offense because it is not wise to ignore it. She is a low level mage, and durability isn't exactly a strong suit of theirs early on, especially at low levels. Mikaya can almost always attack out of counter range, and gain exp/finish foes/etc without fear of being hit at all. This is where her offense comes in. She deals heavy damage with her magic to the majority of early game foes, and if she gets a DA (which is easily possible with a single level up or weighed down foes) then she can kill in a single round without help. When she actually is not attacking out of counter range, she is probably facing a magic user who deals considerably less damage. Overall she is dealing more damage than many other characters, and actually getting attacked less than other people on average. All of this being because she is in fact a mage.

So she can die in two hits during the very, very early part of the game...that is not an important impact, really. I don't recall Lugh/Lilina/Soren being hard to train or losing any of their early luster due to "early game durability", and in terms of starting time and for some starting stats, Mikaya seems to already have an edge on the. Many units very early on can die in two hits, but that does not stop them from being effective. You seem to be under the impression that Mikaya is going to be mauled by numerous foes on the enemy phase, because there are too many enemies for the group to handle. I doubt this will happen. Unlike fire emblem 4, enemies are not assulating you in large groups. Like most FE's (for the early chapter), you simply draw one or two in at a time, and slay them for the experience. There may be quite a few enemies, but they tend to be passive, waiting for the player to enter their attack range. You don't charge into a nest of enemies madly. Also, not all battles take place in an open field, so the chances of multiple enemies reaching Mikaya on an enemy phase gets even slimmer. Early on, most units also tend to have a fair share of vulenaries. Even without a healer, if Mikaya or someone else was attacked by a foe and injured, healing shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Most magic units start with below average durability, but have stats and abilities that make up for it. Mikaya will be a contributing member to the team from the start, regardless of low hp and defense stats. Her overall usefulness is not impacted. That's all I'm saying. Not trying to annoy you or anything. I also have to go for the day, so I won't be around till' much later.
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Eliwood, Lyn, Roy {insert other less important but still early game characters here} don't exactly start with good stats either. They also must attack directly at this point, always risking a counter. Triangle advanatage doesn't always cut it when you are at greater risk of being countered. I think you are underestimating the power of magic. I mentioned her offense because it is not wise to ignore it. She is a low level mage, and durability isn't exactly a strong suit of theirs early on, especially at low levels. Mikaya can almost always attack out of counter range, and gain exp/finish foes/etc without fear of being hit at all. This is where her offense comes in. She deals heavy damage with her magic to the majority of early game foes, and if she gets a DA (which is easily possible with a single level up or weighed down foes) then she can kill in a single round without help. When she actually is not attacking out of counter range, she is probably facing a magic user who deals considerably less damage. Overall she is dealing more damage than many other characters, and actually getting attacked less than other people on average. All of this being because she is in fact a mage.

So she can die in two hits during the very, very early part of the game...that is not an important impact, really. I don't recall Lugh/Lilina/Soren being hard to train or losing any of their early luster due to "early game durability", and in terms of starting time and for some starting stats, Mikaya seems to already have an edge on the. Many units very early on can die in two hits, but that does not stop them from being effective. You seem to be under the impression that Mikaya is going to be mauled by numerous foes on the enemy phase, because there are too many enemies for the group to handle. I doubt this will happen. Unlike fire emblem 4, enemies are not assulating you in large groups. Like most FE's (for the early chapter), you simply draw one or two in at a time, and slay them for the experience. There may be quite a few enemies, but they tend to be passive, waiting for the player to enter their attack range. You don't charge into a nest of enemies madly. Also, not all battles take place in an open field, so the chances of multiple enemies reaching Mikaya on an enemy phase gets even slimmer. Early on, most units also tend to have a fair share of vulenaries. Even without a healer, if Mikaya or someone else was attacked by a foe and injured, healing shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Most magic units start with below average durability, but have stats and abilities that make up for it. Mikaya will be a contributing member to the team from the start, regardless of low hp and defense stats. Her overall usefulness is not impacted. That's all I'm saying. Not trying to annoy you or anything. I also have to go for the day, so I won't be around till' much later.

Yet, in Chapter 1, Mikaya did 10 damage to a bandit with 25 health. Eddie did the same amount, but could DA. Let's just hope Mikaya dosnt get super speed screwed like Soren in my history of FE9. And also, at those rates, Eddie could DA, leaving the bandit with 5 health, and hence allow Mikaya to finish off with a light spell. But, this may feel like babysitting Nino, not as bad, however.

And to concur Jmy's opinion about not having open fields, Chapter 1's map looked pretty urban, hence allowing some levels of protection.
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... uh-huh.

"This may feel like babysitting Nino"?.

Not at all.

That's what I do with all my magic characters at the start of FE7. I also did it with Rebecca and even Eliwood too. I send my other characters to weaken them and then use Rebecca or Eliwood or whoever to finish them off to get the killing exp. It's called good exp management.

Babysitting Nino is different because you're up against high level characters with a severely underlevelled one. Mikaya could stand up to these bandits alone for at least a couple of attacks. Nino can't.

I also personally find it somewhat difficult to just weaken enemies in Nino's chapter on EM as I tend to have high crit rates or my characters are just plain too strong to not kill them. I doubt you have that problem there.
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"This may feel like babysitting Nino"?.

Not at all.

That's what I do with all my magic characters at the start of FE7. I also did it with Rebecca and even Eliwood too. I send my other characters to weaken them and then use Rebecca or Eliwood or whoever to finish them off to get the killing exp. It's called good exp management.

Babysitting Nino is different because you're up against high level characters with a severely underlevelled one. Mikaya could stand up to these bandits alone for at least a couple of attacks. Nino can't.

I also personally find it somewhat difficult to just weaken enemies in Nino's chapter on EM as I tend to have high crit rates or my characters are just plain too strong to not kill them. I doubt you have that problem there.

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Why weaken them? Just have Becky shield Nino while she takes them all on her own. She gains exp faster that way. >_>
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Wait, people are taking this to the level of Nino? Woah, I never meant something that extreme. Is it that hard to see? She's weaker than all the main characters I've seen so far in FE. Eliwood/Eirika/Ike were much more durable.

Lyn was somewhat weak, but god, she was in Lyn mode, whose early chapters are just so stupidly easy it's not funny.

Now, I'm not saying Mikaya will have a lot of trouble in the beggining. But, she'll have more than other lord type units. Magic will save her a counterattack on her phase, but she might not even be able to kill her target anyway, and is subject to death in two hits.
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I'm not the one who mentioned Nino, so don't look at me.

All early chapters are "stupidly" easy, just in varying degrees. That's actually one of the points here.

She is not weaker than Eliwood, Lyn or Roy for that matter in terms of starting stats and abilities. Erika too. The lot of them are also subject to many two death hits as well if we're talking starting stats. For example: Level 1 Erika only scratches her foes, and takes hard counter damage and attack phase damage in the first two chapters. She needs her prf to be able to fight for decent damage if needed, and must rely on dodge if under too much pressure. I don't recall that every being a problem though. Eliwood and Lyn don't perform much better either with their starting stats. Neither can OHKO without criticals, and they must take counters if the enemy was not weakened. In other words, they put themselves at more risk to get experience then Mikaya does. Since they are physical units, the have more trouble chipping away at health to get exp, and sometimes have to be put in harm's way. Mikaya will have no problem getting experience without great risk.

She'll have no trouble at all from what I can see. It'll be a walk in the park. You seem to be underestimating the ability to avoid counters. Who is at greater risk? Someone with a few extra points of HP+DEF who will almost always be countered, and cannot fight back when attacked from afar, plus has weaker resistance...or someone who can gain exp and more easily level by avoiding counters? As I mentioned before, she won't be facing times where more than two people attack her on the enemy phase while she is at very, very, low levels. If she does get hit, she backs up and uses vulenaries like any other lord/early unit during early chapter fighting (if no healer is present). Most people have no problem with Erk/Soren/possible Lute in terms of starting stats and appearance time, and they are in the same boat with early coming, and "low" defenses.

Unless you're going to purposely place her in the range of as many enemies on screen as possible (which is usually a death sentece for about...any non-Jeigan character) than her durability is not a problem because she is a mage, and her other starting stats are decent. She'll level just as easily as early lords and other level 1 early units, with equal or less trouble.
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All early chapters are "stupidly" easy, just in varying degrees. That's actually one of the points here.


Lyn mode is significantly easier than any early chapter set of the other FE games. The number of enemies is ridiculous compared to the others.

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She is not weaker than Eliwood, Lyn or Roy for that matter in terms of starting stats and abilities. Erika too. The lot of them are also subject to many two death hits as well if we're talking starting stats. For example: Level 1 Erika only scratches her foes, and takes hard counter damage and attack phase damage in the first two chapters. She needs her prf to be able to fight for decent damage if needed, and must rely on dodge if under too much pressure. I don't recall that every being a problem though. Eliwood and Lyn don't perform much better either with their starting stats. Neither can OHKO without criticals, and they must take counters if the enemy was not weakened. In other words, they put themselves at more risk to get experience then Mikaya does. Since they are physical units, the have more trouble chipping away at health to get exp, and sometimes have to be put in harm's way. Mikaya will have no problem getting experience without great risk.


She IS weaker than them. Eliwood is not 2HKO'd by your causal bandit ; with 5 Def and triangle advantage, he's taking 7 damage a hit from your causal 5 Str Iron Axe brigand. As far as offense goes, I don't really see how she's that much stronger than them, Mikaya's not OHKOing and even maybe not doubling her foes in the early game as well, so I don't see how she has an edge. Plus, unless the enemies are knights, they don't have much more defense than they have resistance in the early game, so the other lords don't really have an offense disadvantage against them, especially considering Lyn and Eirika who just double right off the bat.

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She'll have no trouble at all from what I can see. It'll be a walk in the park. You seem to be underestimating the ability to avoid counters. Who is at greater risk? Someone with a few extra points of HP+DEF who will almost always be countered, and cannot fight back when attacked from afar, plus has weaker resistance...or someone who can gain exp and more easily level by avoiding counters?


Unless there's suddenly a decent amount of ranged attackers and mage in the game beginning, I fail to see how not being able to counterattack at range and having low Res is a bother here. The only advantage Mikaya has is avoiding counters. That's a very good ability, I'm able to see that. But it doesn't make her much safer than the other Lords just because she avoids one attack per turn when she, on average, dies one turn quicker anyway. She's not all that much at a greater risk than them, but she certainly isn't safer as well.

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As I mentioned before, she won't be facing times where more than two people attack her on the enemy phase while she is at very, very, low levels.


But she dies if hit twice, and is easier to hit than Eirika, who's about the only other lords that dies in two hits and has a chance of being attacked twice as well. (If you get Lyn attacked twice in her turn in LM, there's a problem.)

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If she does get hit, she backs up and uses vulenaries like any other lord/early unit during early chapter fighting (if no healer is present).


Well, like anybody. That isn't really a point for her. I repeat that my point is that she'll be harder to raise than the other main characters. And not by that much, but more difficult nonetheless.

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Erk joins in Lyn mode, at chapter 5 which is less challenging than FE9 chapter 1. Lute is in a chapter with zombies. Who have 0 in everystat save HP and Str. Unless the foes in Mikaya's chapter are as scarce as Lyn mode/as pathetic as FE8 revenants, then yes, Mikaya's gonna be harder than them to train. As for, Soren, raising him IS a tad on the rough side on chapter 4. He dies quickly and doesn't kill anything in one round unless adept kicks in (fat chance, 6% per attack), and there's a considerable wave of aggressive enemies. It ain't really "hard", but I certainly don't qualify that "a walk in the park". Then again, he's probably harder to raise than Mikaya will be because he joins a bit further into the game at the same level than her. But I'm not claiming it'll be hard to train her. Just a bit more annoying than the other lords.

Now yes, she shouldn't be at that much of a risk if you don't play reckless. That goes for pretty much anybody, really. Yet, the point is that she dies faster than all of the other lords on average and that avoiding one single counter per round isn't making her safer than them, especially considering that she's not getting out of that 2HKO situation unless she hits 18 HP/ 3 Def, which might or might not take a while depending on her growths. She won't be all that hard to level, but certainly not with less trouble than the other lords.
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From what I can tell, FE10's AS system is the exact same as FE9's, and seeing how heavy Axes are, would your typical bandit suffer AS loss? >_>
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From what I can tell, FE10's AS system is the exact same as FE9's, and seeing how heavy Axes are, would your typical bandit suffer AS loss? >_>

And what about Light Magic? 'twas very heavy too.
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Light had 4 Weight IIRC, that's no where near enough to be as significant as what a bandit will lose

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Yeah. Might double a few enemies out there, but according to what people said here, she wasn't 2HKOing them either anyway.
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Why, exactly, are people having page-long arguments about the early-game perfomance of a character from a game not even out yet? >_>
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Why, exactly, are people having page-long arguments about the early-game perfomance of a character from a game not even out yet? >_>

We're on a board full of the Fire Emblem equivalents of Red Mage, what do you think?
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But I'm just as argu-ey as most people here, and even I find this a bit... extreme.
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I'm in withdrawal KJ. I haven't debated a thing for 6 months.

Shrimp. I have already typed up a long counter as always, but I don't feel a need to post it at the moment. Now the only proof we have is an almost complete/complete chapter 1. I have a question first: Dropping your possible opinion on certain stats, can you actually prove that she will have more trouble than the other lords, and that she is actually going to have a harder time? If you feel you can prove or have proved that beyond a reasonable doubt, then I'll continue. If not...it'll have to wait until better evidence is available. Even though I want to debate, I don't want it to be 100% "logical" conjecture. It's an empty argument.
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Well yeah, the whole point of this debate is kinda pointless if the whole thing is crushed by the game setup being completely different. I'm okay with that.
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Yeah, let's wait until we actually get the game. <_<
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Comes out February in Japan, so we'll have a good idea.

Although Light will have a disadvantage against 4 different magic types...
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Four? Wind, Thunder, Fire, and... what else?
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Uhh... maybe? <_<
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Comes out February in Japan, so we'll have a good idea.

Although Light will have a disadvantage against 4 different magic types...

I get to wait 'til June or something for that darn thing.
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Leadership from FE4/5 is back. Apparently all the playable characters are affiliated with the Dawn Group, except Mikaya (who may possibly be the commander). I can't wait to fight Sephiran who has 10 Leadership stars j/k

Sothe's battle stats against a Soldier were 18 x 2 damage and 15 critical, which leads me to believe Kard actually has 15 Critical. (An unknown person listed Kard's critical rating as 15 at Wikipedia, not long after the Nintendo World started.) Also Sothe receives 3-4 damage from most enemies and gets around 2 EXP from killing them... More "evidence" for him being pre-promoted.

Most characters have 15 Capacity, while Sothe apparently has 30. Doesn't make sense to me why he should have so much.

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Ooh, my head is spinning...

...Okay, while we don't know his growths yet, Sothe looks like he'll pwn in FE10 o.o

Which is a nice change from his FE9 counterpart >_>
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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So very wrong.

You should at least say that Vincent is the one who said that. >_>

How can one say it looks like he'll pwn? His stats don't sound too impressive to me, and Kard/Kald could be something similar to Silver Sword. o.o
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

I don't use Silver weaponry so meh >_>
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Feeling spritely.

Same here. It's surprising if I use steel weapons other than to increase weapon levels faster. >.>

The problem with Kard having 15 crit is the fact that it doesn't take Sothe's crit into account. Either the enemies have luck, Sothe has some really bad skill (Kard could have 10 crit with the other 5 coming from Sothe, meaning that he'd have only 10 skill), or both.
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Ahahahaha- *snort* -hahahaha- *snort* -heheheh

A promoted thief really oughta have considerably more than 10 skill.
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That, or enemies actually have luck. >_>
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Enemies tend to have luck in some FEs, though it rarely surpasses 5. <_<
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It's his eyebrows. They're hypnotic, I swear.

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Meh. Franz.

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You should at least say that Vincent is the one who said that. >_>


I would of thought that was obvious, seeing as I credited him for everything else in this topic...
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BRAUGAGUGAUGUAUHGHAUHAU

THey brought it back to Anima-Light-Dark... probably just to appeal to the American audience. -`- Screw that...
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

I don't quite see what's wrong with the anima/light/dark triangle, personally...
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So very wrong.

I liked the A-L-D triangle, and I think they'll have monks and shamans now. Which I like, mind you.
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Blegh, Lightning, Fire, Wind was the original. If anything, wouldn't returning to FE4's -- the most popular Fire Emblem, recall -- system be better than anything?
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Painting the world the way you want it [:

Me think Vid has some sort of fanboy-ism he need to sort out <.<
Looks to me like Sothe is getting back what he deserves for his suckiness in 9 <_<;
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Uhh, Vid, they brought back the Fire-Wind-Lightning triangle in FE9 >_>
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Feeling spritely.

I prefer the Anima/Light/Dark triangle, personally. It makes more sense to me; I can devise a logical explanation for Anima being effective against Light and so on, but not Fire being effective against Wind, et cetera (Water > Fire > Thunder > Water, on the other hand, is barely passable).

Now, what would be really cool is if they did a double triangle--like Light > Dark > Anima (Fire > Wind > Thunder) > Light.
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I guess I'm not cut out for magical girl shows.

Someday, this is going to get quoted out of context.


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So A-L-D is back? Sweet.
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Pretend I put something witty here.

If Soren appears, he'd better use Dark. I don't want to eat my money.
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You have been dressed down by Tookie for trolling.

This topic is now over. It can be mathematically proved that there is no adequate comeback to that simple fact.


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I prefer the Anima/Light/Dark triangle, personally. It makes more sense to me; I can devise a logical explanation for Anima being effective against Light and so on, but not Fire being effective against Wind, et cetera (Water > Fire > Thunder > Water, on the other hand, is barely passable).

Now, what would be really cool is if they did a double triangle--like Light > Dark > Anima (Fire > Wind > Thunder) > Light.

That's what they're doing actually >_>

And I know a passable explaination as to why they set it up like that, but I don't really want to bore you all with WoTs so let's just say a wizard did it and be done with it >_>
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You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

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[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Feeling spritely.

They are? Dood, first a female magician for a main character, and now a double magic triangle? It's like they listened to my ramblings!
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"The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD

Flarebringer
 
I guess I'm not cut out for magical girl shows.

Someday, this is going to get quoted out of context.


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I like the italics in the post.

"Cleric by Seth"

It sounds like a fancy cologne.


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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Yes, haven't you been paying attention to this topic at all? <.<;;
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You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

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[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Feeling spritely.

For about the first 45 posts, yes, but apparently I didn't see the part about a double triangle. Or I saw it at FEU and forgot about it anyway. >.>;
"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it or does it." --- Malcolm X.

"The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD

Flarebringer
 
I guess I'm not cut out for magical girl shows.

Someday, this is going to get quoted out of context.


Seth
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I like the italics in the post.

"Cleric by Seth"

It sounds like a fancy cologne.


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Meh. Franz.

Yes, remember what the weapons were:

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I think they should reverse the triangle, since wind can blow fire out. >_>
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Wind can also spread fire, which is the logic they're going with. >.>
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DAMN YOU AND YOUR LOGIC!

But I guess you're right on that one.
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

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Feeling spritely.

I'm not sure about Thunder beating Fire, though. One would think that it would be opposite since Thunder (a.k.a. lightning) can actually cause fires.... Water > Fire > Earth/Flora > Water makes the most sense, since water puts out fire, plant life absorbs and takes strength from water, and fire burns plant life. Fire > Thunder > Water/Ice > Fire also makes sense, since while fire melts ice, the ice turns into water that then extinguishes fire; thunder can create more fire and end up being overwhelmed by it; and water conducts electricity, so that thunder would be channeled through it back to the spellcaster. Can't quite figure out a logical explanation for thunder besting fire, though....
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"The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD

Flarebringer
 
I guess I'm not cut out for magical girl shows.

Someday, this is going to get quoted out of context.


Seth
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I like the italics in the post.

"Cleric by Seth"

It sounds like a fancy cologne.


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I'm not sure about Thunder beating Fire, though. One would think that it would be opposite since Thunder (a.k.a. lightning) can actually cause fires.... Water > Fire > Earth/Flora > Water makes the most sense, since water puts out fire, plant life absorbs and takes strength from water, and fire burns plant life. Fire > Thunder > Water/Ice > Fire also makes sense, since while fire melts ice, the ice turns into water that then extinguishes fire; thunder can create more fire and end up being overwhelmed by it; and water conducts electricity, so that thunder would be channeled through it back to the spellcaster. Can't quite figure out a logical explanation for thunder besting fire, though....

Do you really want me to bust out my WoTs, cause I will >_<
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You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Only if you really, really want to, Souly. Doesn't really matter. I was talking half to myself in the first place, anyway. >.>;
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"The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD

Flarebringer
 
I guess I'm not cut out for magical girl shows.

Someday, this is going to get quoted out of context.


Seth
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I like the italics in the post.

"Cleric by Seth"

It sounds like a fancy cologne.


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