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FE7 HHM; Are you good at it? Look here
Topic Started: Aug 7 2007, 06:17 PM (721 Views)
Kirbix
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As I've said on a few occasions, my FE7 walkthrough is nearly done (we're looking at 400KB+; christ, this thing's big). Problem is that it doesn't address the Hard Modes properly.

What I want to do is write a good HHM FAQ; the one that's up is useless. Problem is, I'm not very good at HHM myself.

So I turn to you guys: the biggest obstacle in FAQ writing is the writing (wow, who would've guessed!), but here's the proposition: I want to work with someone who's really good at HHM- teach me what it takes to beat the game so that I can get through the game and write a real walkthrough for it.

I'd coauthor with whomever helped me get through it, so your name would be on the title.
Anyone interested?
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HELLO EVERYBODY

Just curious, but why isn't this in the FE forum? >_>
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Kirbix
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People will look here.

(no real reason)
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

Well, to be honest I've never beaten HHM, so I won't be much help here...

And yeah, this probably belongs in the FE forum. Mind if I move it?
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Painting the world the way you want it [:

I've never even tried it myself. Kinda forgot it on the way. Maybe later... <_<
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Beaten it around 10 times, but I haven't touched FE in about a year, so sorry.
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HELLO EVERYBODY

Kirbix
Aug 7 2007, 03:30 PM
People will look here.

(no real reason)

I doubt it, actually. FE forum has less traffic, so it will stay on the 'most recent post' link on the main page longer then it would on the OOC board, considering hmmmm...and all.

And maybe I'm in the minority, but I do find myself clicking the most recent post link quite often.
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Kirbix
Aug 7 2007, 01:30 PM
People will look here.

(no real reason)

The FE forum is practically dead, so any topic there will stand out, whereas in OOC it gets overshadowed by hmm.....
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What's the password?

Well, I can't help with HHM. (CURSE YOU, TALONS ALIGHT, AND YOUR CHEAP INSTANT DEATH ATTACKS!)
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...So why wasn't this moved? I can't move it, can I?
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HHM Guy = awesome.
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Aug 8 2007, 10:47 PM
HHM Guy = awesome.

HHM Geitz= More awesome.

Same with HHM Heath.
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Aug 8 2007, 11:54 PM
Squid Vicious
Aug 8 2007, 10:47 PM
HHM Guy = awesome.

HHM Geitz= More awesome.

Same with HHM Heath.

More Spd + More Avoid + Actual Supports > Mehness

<_<
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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Squid Vicious
Aug 8 2007, 11:19 PM
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Aug 8 2007, 11:54 PM
Squid Vicious
Aug 8 2007, 10:47 PM
HHM Guy = awesome.

HHM Geitz= More awesome.

Same with HHM Heath.

More Spd + More Avoid + Actual Supports > Mehness

<_<

More damage + more tankiness + fine supports> mehness.
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Aug 8 2007, 08:25 PM
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Aug 8 2007, 11:19 PM
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Aug 8 2007, 11:54 PM
Squid Vicious
Aug 8 2007, 10:47 PM
HHM Guy = awesome.

HHM Geitz= More awesome.

Same with HHM Heath.

More Spd + More Avoid + Actual Supports > Mehness

<_<

More damage + more tankiness + fine supports> mehness.

I think you're lying.

Heath has liek no supporters

Geitz has liek low tier units.

Guy has two god tier units.

Guy's crt is so massive he will be able to crt reliably on promotion, i.e. when you get Heath and Geitz.

Guy is there for longer doing h4x helping tactics and combat that much more.

Heath is also underleveled.
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lol, Heath doesn't even do more damage. Guy wins that by a gigantic amount. Guy's offense is so good...

And Guy's durability >>>> Heath's. Heath has def, but that's it. Both magic and arrows raep him while Guy is durable against everything.

Being w1n earlygame is also > Heath.
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<_<

you guyz

>_>

4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
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Aug 8 2007, 08:36 PM
<_<

you guyz

>_>

Thanks for the thunder sweetheart. <3
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Didn't know you posted here, Reikken.

Don't suppose you'd be interested, would you?
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The last time I posted here was liek............i dunno. Hmmmm v4 was still going strong is all I can say.
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I've played HHM a few times and beaten it. I could help, but it's been a while since I've played 7, so I'm not sure how much help I'll be.

I'll help as much as I can, or as much as I can remember.

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Uh. I never really got far in HHM either, but there is one thing I do know... Marcus is very useful early on, so don't hesitate to use him if it means taking a serious risk otherwise. On that note, take as few risks as possible. Thats really all I can think of at the moment.
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Never tried and I havne't played FE in about a year. <_<
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I've easily cleared with all the characters possible, even nabbing Jaffar in Night of Farewells (if I remember the levels correctly). At the height of my FE7 career, I could write an effective guide for it, but now I'm out of practice and I can't help you much.
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Was Jaffar that hard to get in NoF?

I've completely forgotten.
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What's the password?

He sits his foolish self over by swordslayer wielding fighters, lance using cavaliers, and almost within range of Ursula's bolting, IIRC. AND HE ALMOST NEVER HEALS.

It's pure luck.
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Or, in an incredibly crazy turn of events, Chrono is really the GF, and he got ike lynched to throw suspicioun off of him. That's probably really unlikely though
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Meh, never had any problems there.


I used to hate A Glimpse to the Past though. (Or whatever 19xx was called...)
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Aug 11 2007, 09:16 PM
He sits his foolish self over by swordslayer wielding fighters, lance using cavaliers, and almost within range of Ursula's bolting, IIRC. AND HE ALMOST NEVER HEALS.

It's pure luck.

Swordreaver

If they were Swordslayers,,, :WHOAMG:
No one would ever beat that chapter. They would do ~25 damage to him per hit.... 9 hp left after a single attack.

He can take two hits without dying, so he can live.



And it's Battle Before Dawn. Night of Farewells is after he's already joined.
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Swordreaver, yeah. I keep mixing those two up.
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Reikken
Aug 12 2007, 03:46 AM
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Aug 11 2007, 09:16 PM
He sits his foolish self over by swordslayer wielding fighters, lance using cavaliers, and almost within range of Ursula's bolting, IIRC. AND HE ALMOST NEVER HEALS.

It's pure luck.

Swordreaver

If they were Swordslayers,,, :WHOAMG:
No one would ever beat that chapter. They would do ~25 damage to him per hit.... 9 hp left after a single attack.

He can take two hits without dying, so he can live.



And it's Battle Before Dawn. Night of Farewells is after he's already joined.

Ah. See? I'm REALLY out of practice if I couldn't remember that chapter.

Night of Farewells was pretty easy in HHM, especially after Battle Before Dawn...ugh. Even without trying to nab Jaffar, you can run into some problems. Still, good planning and patience gives you a 50/50 chance each try.
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So in other words... it's too late? I should have asked when this place first opened.
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Yep. Many of those who have beat HHM haven't played the game in like a year.

Unfortunately, too late Kirbix.
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I haven't even attempted HHM yet. <_<
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First time I've played FE in about a year, last weekend... I never even did EHM, but I'm doing it now.
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Pretend I put something witty here.

I'd have another go at HHM, but my FE7 crapped itself a month ago, and I lost everything. And I'm ****ed if I'm doing LNM again.

Before anyone says ROMs, mine are all hacks.
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Hack yourself to chapter 10? <>

And GODDAMN, I hate the Port of Badon. The ****ing Killer Weapon guys get crits with like 40 hit and 20 crit every time.
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Aug 13 2007, 05:36 PM
Hack yourself to chapter 10? <>

And GODDAMN, I hate the Port of Badon. The ****ing Killer Weapon guys get crits with like 40 hit and 20 crit every time.

Meh, it wasn't too bad.

I had Marcus take care of most of it.

19xx was annoying... X_X
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I dunno if I'm even going to do it. >_<
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Hack yourself to chapter 10? <>

And GODDAMN, I hate the Port of Badon. The ****ing Killer Weapon guys get crits with like 40 hit and 20 crit every time.

Go around, nub.
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I dun wanna
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Hack yourself to chapter 10? <>

And GODDAMN, I hate the Port of Badon. The ****ing Killer Weapon guys get crits with like 40 hit and 20 crit every time.

Go around, nub.

Pfeh, no fun in that, Reikken.
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And there's also no fun in getting critkilled every time.
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True it's a luck game.

Meh, I used a combo of Marcus/Oswin for tanking, and always took out the killer guy with careful move range calculations, and Erk/Canas/Lucius hitting him, with Guy to do the finishing blow.
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I kinda lost interest. Now I'm into my two FE6 games, my ROM game where I'm easy leveling up the lategame low level people like Sophia, and my cart game where I do what I want.
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Also, I ****ing hate Thrones in FE6.
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Aug 16 2007, 03:18 AM
I kinda lost interest. Now I'm into my two FE6 games, my ROM game where I'm easy leveling up the lategame low level people like Sophia, and my cart game where I do what I want.

I have the cart, and I still level Sophia up to near 20/20 levels. It's cuz' I wub her. >_>

And yeah...thrones in FE6 are kind of similar to those in FE5, in that they grant really good bonuses. FE5 was the worst though, IIRC.

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FE6 HM = instant w1n
Enemies don't suck like they do in FE7, and hit actually matters. Especially against bosses and their thrones, which is why you use Rutger to kill bosses.
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Yeah, if I didn't have Rutger, I would never be able to kill the Durandal Guardian.
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Bah, how disappointing.

I'll just say this, then:
If anyone thinks they can help me work through HHM (ranked or unranked, I don't care) so that I can get a feel for what to expect in HHM and therefore what to tell others to watch out for (Much as I'd like to do a ranked run FAQ, I'll settle for just having a good non-ranked guide up), email me. kirbix@gmail.com

Thanks.
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