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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 2 2008, 07:50 PM (786 Views) | |
| Nate | Jan 2 2008, 07:50 PM Post #1 |
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Str 2 Mag 15 Skl 12 Spd 7 Lck 17 Def Res 12 ... Spd 7 Spd 7 Spd 7 Spd 7 adsorufbaweoipfnawepoigneparonigrepoang AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH |
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| Soul | Jan 2 2008, 07:51 PM Post #2 |
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Ooh, my head is spinning...
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lolpwnt |
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| Nate | Jan 2 2008, 07:53 PM Post #3 |
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yeah
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literally my entire team except Laura could double her ._. |
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| Bears | Jan 2 2008, 07:54 PM Post #4 |
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and she has no def either damn |
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes". 4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting. 4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama. | |
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| Jmyster | Jan 2 2008, 07:55 PM Post #5 |
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I'm just going to have Touhou infect everything now
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...you people and your troubles with 35% growths. Back in |
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-It makes you wonder what goes on in the minds of people who can't seem to grasp the notion that one =/= all. Perhaps they failed math in school--Spotted Zebra The Character Formerly Known as Jeremy-20/13 Hero Saria-20/20 Wyvern Lady Yumil-15/11 Druid Ankiseth Level 11 Pirate Elandra 20/1 Hunter Maria Valine (RP ONLY) | |
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| Nate | Jan 2 2008, 07:57 PM Post #6 |
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wtf that was there when I posted WHO TOOK IT |
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| Soul | Jan 2 2008, 07:58 PM Post #7 |
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I did :D |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| Spotted Zebra | Jan 2 2008, 07:59 PM Post #8 |
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Feeling spritely.
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Ilyana did. It was delicious. |
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"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it or does it." --- Malcolm X. "The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My characters: Naia, level 20/11 Valkyrie | Firenze, level 20/9 Mystic | Lynore, level 16 Nomad Mu Arae, level 17 Pegasus Knight | Mars, level 7 Professor | Gloria, level 11 Fortune-TellerSpot prefers to stat in battles since she usually lacks sufficient time to run them through an RNG. The Mamkutes' profile Skye's profile | |
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| Nate | Jan 2 2008, 08:02 PM Post #9 |
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yeah
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when between fe9 and fe10 did ilyana turn into the cookie monster anyway I mean she was always hungry but not like this! |
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| Spotted Zebra | Jan 2 2008, 08:05 PM Post #10 |
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Feeling spritely.
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Probably around the same time she changed her cloak. Perhaps it is hungry, too. Also, not to derail the topic at hand, but am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that apparently 90% of the people from FE9 couldn't find time to change their clothes in three whole years? >.> |
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"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it or does it." --- Malcolm X. "The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My characters: Naia, level 20/11 Valkyrie | Firenze, level 20/9 Mystic | Lynore, level 16 Nomad Mu Arae, level 17 Pegasus Knight | Mars, level 7 Professor | Gloria, level 11 Fortune-TellerSpot prefers to stat in battles since she usually lacks sufficient time to run them through an RNG. The Mamkutes' profile Skye's profile | |
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| Soul | Jan 2 2008, 08:06 PM Post #11 |
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Ooh, my head is spinning...
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To be fair, about 90% of those people are wearing armor >_> |
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| Bears | Jan 2 2008, 08:07 PM Post #12 |
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mia did |
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes". 4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting. 4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama. | |
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| Spotted Zebra | Jan 2 2008, 08:10 PM Post #13 |
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Feeling spritely.
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True, but there are the ones like Calill, Rolf, and all the others that I can't think of right now. >.>; |
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"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it or does it." --- Malcolm X. "The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My characters: Naia, level 20/11 Valkyrie | Firenze, level 20/9 Mystic | Lynore, level 16 Nomad Mu Arae, level 17 Pegasus Knight | Mars, level 7 Professor | Gloria, level 11 Fortune-TellerSpot prefers to stat in battles since she usually lacks sufficient time to run them through an RNG. The Mamkutes' profile Skye's profile | |
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| Nate | Jan 2 2008, 08:18 PM Post #14 |
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also: I decided to forge a bow for Leonardo today! it is inferior to a steel bow medi am not smrt ._. |
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| Spotted Zebra | Jan 2 2008, 08:19 PM Post #15 |
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Feeling spritely.
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Poor Medi. D: Sell it for money to make a better bow? |
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"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it or does it." --- Malcolm X. "The AI is not very smart. It makes up for that by cheating." --- Naglfar, on Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition. XD
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My characters: Naia, level 20/11 Valkyrie | Firenze, level 20/9 Mystic | Lynore, level 16 Nomad Mu Arae, level 17 Pegasus Knight | Mars, level 7 Professor | Gloria, level 11 Fortune-TellerSpot prefers to stat in battles since she usually lacks sufficient time to run them through an RNG. The Mamkutes' profile Skye's profile | |
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| LuteFanBoyNick | Jan 2 2008, 08:37 PM Post #16 |
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>_>
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Ilyana. Tormad. And those are the only people I reached so far. Lawls, I just promoted Laura(All the bexp from the Umono leve) and she has 30 hp. PWNT! Oh, should I use Edward or Zihark? I'll probably switch them for Mia anyway. |
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| Vicas | Jan 2 2008, 08:43 PM Post #17 |
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.
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Zihark is slightly worse but costs way less effort. |
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| Soul | Jan 2 2008, 08:55 PM Post #18 |
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You should use two SMs, because the only characters that can SS swords that aren't SMs either already have awesome weapons, are named Makalov or just suck >_> And Zihark and Mia are the best SMs of the bunch <.< Oh, and as to why you want two, Gogo 2 SS rank swords available in the game |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| Vicas | Jan 2 2008, 09:05 PM Post #19 |
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.
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| Soul | Jan 2 2008, 09:07 PM Post #20 |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| Kinkajou | Jan 2 2008, 09:08 PM Post #21 |
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I make iron women out of iron maidens
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needs more meg cute little bucket of chub <3 |
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"Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice. From what I've tasted of desire I hold with those who favor fire. But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate To say that for destruction ice Is also great And would suffice." Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice" | |
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| LuteFanBoyNick | Jan 2 2008, 10:08 PM Post #22 |
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Oh yeah, my Micaiah. Level 19 HP 25 SERAPH ROBE USED SRDFDFHHGSD So bad I may have to use the one I get from Rafiel Str 5 (Illyana>you, lady dog) Mag 20(Pre promo capped) Skill 14 Speed 11(Can't double ANYTHING. My 20/1 Laura can double stuff...) Luck 24(She is so the Mist of this game. Best luck that isn't a theif/SM) Def 7 (.....PHAIL) Res 20 (Pre promo capped) |
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| Iron Shaman | Jan 2 2008, 10:08 PM Post #23 |
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ha ha ha
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Souly, that means using SMs :( |
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FE: Herald of Faith Take a look! IS has got event hacking skillz! Characters ![]() Gooooo Fish <3 | |
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| Soul | Jan 2 2008, 10:13 PM Post #24 |
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They're actually back to their FE4 awesomeness in this game though <3 Astra @ Lute: She is so NOT the Mist of this game, since alot of characters get high luck now >_> |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| Tookie | Jan 2 2008, 10:16 PM Post #25 |
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Pretend I put something witty here.
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Swordmasters are wtfraep now? *parties* |
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| Soul | Jan 2 2008, 10:17 PM Post #26 |
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Well, pretty much all classes are wtfraep in this game if you take into consideration that mastery skills are mostly "lol, broken" >_> |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| Tookie | Jan 2 2008, 10:18 PM Post #27 |
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Pretend I put something witty here.
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-.- *gives up all hope of there ever being a balanced FE game* |
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| Fallen Morning Flare | Jan 2 2008, 10:20 PM Post #28 |
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HiMAT Laharl!
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Go Master Specialist until 13 and then Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil until 20. It's the only way. |
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Don't want to stat? Web statuator, effort-free version. Still in testing. OC:____|Firiel 12 Vestal|Ithryn 19 Knight|Ivrin 20/4 Sage|Hathall 15/1 Barbarian| Retired: |Mark 20/20 SM|Elenwë 20/20 FK|Isfin 20/20 WL| ▂▅▇█▓▒░¬__¬░▒▓█▇▅▂
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| Soul | Jan 2 2008, 10:20 PM Post #29 |
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Indeed <_<;; @ Flare: wtf? |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| Fallen Morning Flare | Jan 2 2008, 10:25 PM Post #30 |
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HiMAT Laharl!
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Sorry, it's just that the <classname> <level> syntax Medi used is the same way you use to refer to class levels in DnD, e.g Rogue 16/Fighter 4. And casty class -> Master Specialist -> Iot7FV is one of the more broken mage progressions... |
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Don't want to stat? Web statuator, effort-free version. Still in testing. OC:____|Firiel 12 Vestal|Ithryn 19 Knight|Ivrin 20/4 Sage|Hathall 15/1 Barbarian| Retired: |Mark 20/20 SM|Elenwë 20/20 FK|Isfin 20/20 WL| ▂▅▇█▓▒░¬__¬░▒▓█▇▅▂
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| Walliard | Jan 2 2008, 10:28 PM Post #31 |
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nak nak naknak naknaknaknak nak nak
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I use that notation all the time. Never mind that it's due to DnD influence... >_> |
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| Fallen Morning Flare | Jan 2 2008, 10:29 PM Post #32 |
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HiMAT Laharl!
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So Ike is a Ranger 20/Lord 20/Baddass Third Tier 20? That's pretty epic. |
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Don't want to stat? Web statuator, effort-free version. Still in testing. OC:____|Firiel 12 Vestal|Ithryn 19 Knight|Ivrin 20/4 Sage|Hathall 15/1 Barbarian| Retired: |Mark 20/20 SM|Elenwë 20/20 FK|Isfin 20/20 WL| ▂▅▇█▓▒░¬__¬░▒▓█▇▅▂
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| Soul | Jan 2 2008, 10:30 PM Post #33 |
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Oh yeah Forgot about DnD |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| Soul | Jan 2 2008, 10:34 PM Post #34 |
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He's a Hero in FE10 And then Vanguard >_> |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| Seth | Jan 2 2008, 11:51 PM Post #35 |
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I'm...HUNGRY!
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I had Micaiah gain 0 Spd from 1 to 20/8 once, so quit whining. |
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Battling characters Retired characters RP-onlies
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| Nate | Jan 3 2008, 01:00 AM Post #36 |
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*groans* |
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| Fallen Morning Flare | Jan 3 2008, 01:58 AM Post #37 |
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HiMAT Laharl!
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Hey, 60 levels in a full-BAB class could give most deities' avatars trouble. |
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Don't want to stat? Web statuator, effort-free version. Still in testing. OC:____|Firiel 12 Vestal|Ithryn 19 Knight|Ivrin 20/4 Sage|Hathall 15/1 Barbarian| Retired: |Mark 20/20 SM|Elenwë 20/20 FK|Isfin 20/20 WL| ▂▅▇█▓▒░¬__¬░▒▓█▇▅▂
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| Nate | Jan 3 2008, 02:13 AM Post #38 |
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Of course, no one has anything to fear from Nolan. <_< |
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| LuteFanBoyNick | Jan 3 2008, 07:32 PM Post #39 |
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>_>
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I was reading the gamespot review a little while ago... Nothing new? Third tier... Elevation... Victory: Defend... Probably some other stuff. |
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| Soul | Jan 3 2008, 07:41 PM Post #40 |
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Third Tier promotions basically feel the same as Second Tier promotions, elevation thing is minor at best and Victory: Defend has already been done ...Your point is wut? |
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| BIG MAN | Jan 3 2008, 07:42 PM Post #41 |
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Unrelentingly BIG
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What? EDIT: Gah >_< |
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(10:26:04 PM) Simon: Pidgey is down (10:26:12 PM) Simon: now for the final assault 7:16 AM - The Junior Senator from [BIG]: home is where the heart is, big man. 7:16 AM - The Junior Senator from [BIG]: and my heart is in the mailbox. | |
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| Tyrone Buggums | Jan 3 2008, 07:48 PM Post #42 |
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Meg and Fiona should jump into a pit of acid. D:< |
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| LuteFanBoyNick | Jan 3 2008, 09:03 PM Post #43 |
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I'm on the final level of Michaih's levels...I just found out how bad Fiona is. So my Jill and Aran suck and I'm screwed. XD |
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| Soul | Jan 3 2008, 09:16 PM Post #44 |
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You could just solo the level with Nailah or *Spoilers* >_> |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| LuteFanBoyNick | Jan 3 2008, 10:40 PM Post #45 |
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I know that..... But I wanna improve Laura and everyone for the endgame. x_X |
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| Soul | Jan 3 2008, 10:56 PM Post #46 |
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You get several chapters with the DB before endgame, you can train them there... but if they're not promoted, then it could be a problem >_>;; Anywho, only DB charas really worth using are Jill, Zihark (Who's promoted), Nolan and maybe Laura. I'd include Micaiah and Sothe, but the former you pretty much have to use and the latter is already promoted |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| LuteFanBoyNick | Jan 4 2008, 12:05 AM Post #47 |
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I got Jill to promote during Micaiah's endgame. :) Nolan=No. Because I hate Axe users and he can't hit a soldier. Micaiah's Light Sage portrait=smexy. I wish IS put in the effort to make everyone's promo portrait. Mist wearing yellow in her portrait and red in her promo always bothered me... |
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| Soul | Jan 4 2008, 12:31 AM Post #48 |
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HEATHEN >:EEE |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| Tyrone Buggums | Jan 4 2008, 04:10 PM Post #49 |
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Nolan was an uber balance god for me. O_o |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Jan 5 2008, 05:52 PM Post #50 |
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I broke my shades!
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What does everyone have against Meg again? She comes a bit underleveled, but that's it; she definitely has stats that can make up for it on paper, plus, she can rejoin your team early like Zihark and Jill. |
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| Soul | Jan 5 2008, 06:11 PM Post #51 |
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lol, 35% Str and Def on a Knight <_< |
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My FEABL profile Jarro; lvl. 20/13 Mage Knight, Frost; lvl. 20/18 Phalanx, Melissa lvl. 12 Archer, Rexall; level 17 Squire, Marco; level 10 Wyvern Knight RP Only: Sarah Retired: Krys, Lizzie, Kratos, Ruby, Amery, Fairah, Grimliss, Azrael, Hanz, Rowan Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Jan 5 2008, 06:18 PM Post #52 |
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I broke my shades!
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Meg's 3/0 bases : HP 21 Str 10 Mag 1 Skl 7 Spd 8 Lck 8 Def 10 Res 5 20/1 Meg on average : HP 33 Str 17.95 Mag 5.55 Skl 14.8 Spd 20.05 Lck 20.75 Def 17.95 Res 15.5 wut? |
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| Nate | Jan 5 2008, 06:48 PM Post #53 |
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She's too slow. To be worthwhile, she'd have to be significantly superior to the normal-speed characters in the party. And she isn't. |
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| Soul | Jan 5 2008, 06:56 PM Post #54 |
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That's only because her Str and Def bases are high >_> Meg 20/20 Hp 44.4 Str 24.6 Mag 8.4 Skl 22.4 Spd 32.4 (lolcapram) Luck 35 Def 24.6 Res 25 ...Then Tauroneo 20/20 Hp 41.3 Str 26.4 Mag 12.3 Skl 25.9 Spd 23 Luck 19.2 Def 23.7 Res 18 An almost identical (except losing pretty badly in Spd, Res and Luck, but Meg's speed is actually going to behind by 20/20 due to Lance General's higher Spd cap) unit that requires significantly less training to be useful >_> And then... Brom 20/20 Hp 50.4 Str 26.2 Mag 4.9 Skl 24.2 Spd 21.4 Luck 25.6 Def 31.8 Res 13.5 Way ahead in Hp and Def, and a bit ahead in Str and Skl, while only behind by Spd (again, not by much due to caps), a fair bit in Luck, alot in Res, and abit in Mag (lol Mag) And finally... Gatrie 20/20 Hp 49 Str 31 Mag 5.5 Skl 22.5 Spd 26 Luck 18 Def 30 Res 14.5 ...Gatrie only loses in Spd (at least until caps kick in, then he wins) Luck, Mag and Res, while he pummels her everywhere else >_> So... it's isn't the fact that's she bad persee, she's just highly inferior due to needing training in the first place... <_< |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Jan 5 2008, 07:13 PM Post #55 |
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That actually goes for all the DB members, yet she's considered crappy even amongst them, which is EXACTLY what I was questionning, not her stading among the other Armor Knights. AKA you compared her to the wrong people. We all know Gatrie is a god, this was really not necessary. >_> |
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| Sonix | Jan 5 2008, 07:17 PM Post #56 |
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| Soul | Jan 5 2008, 07:22 PM Post #57 |
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Gee, joining at level 3 when the rest of your team is going to be around level 9-12 >_> And that doesn't go for all the DB people actually (See: Nolan, Zihark, Laura, Aran and Sothe) @ Sonix: No |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Jan 5 2008, 07:27 PM Post #58 |
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9-12 is kinda generous. I mentionned the underleveledness, but I also mentionned I think the fact that she can rejoin on 3-7 gives her an advantage that offsets that plenty. I'll debate Aran and maybe even Nolan ; they're not as underleveled as her, but she definitely gains the upper hand when she rejoins on 3-7 while they're stuck on Micaiah's side. Sothe (and Micaiah) are kinda no brainers since you're forced to use 'em anyway. Laura... joins just about as underleveled, and priests have trouble gaining EXP here moreso than other FEs, especially with 6 uses 20 HP healing Vulneraries, so meh. |
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| Soul | Jan 5 2008, 07:39 PM Post #59 |
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...Okay, I'll conceed you have a point, but you can't ignore the fact that there's little point in using her when you have 3 other characters of the same class that require much less training and that Meg hardly has any advantages over them >_> |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Jan 5 2008, 07:47 PM Post #60 |
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Meg's cap ram of Spd, Lck and Res actually has her end up superior to Tauroneo and Brom by a good margin, but obviously you didn't mention that in your analysis - she'd cap speed at 20/3, Res by 20/10 and Lck by 20/15 or so. And Luck would be capped for good, too. Also, nothing wrong with having several characters of the same class if they,re worth using, so that's kinda besides the point. Jill ain't usless 'cuase Haar is better, same for Meg and Gatrie. And heck, I'm not pushing for Meg being a high tier character or anything, just arguiung against the usual "Meg and Fiona are totally horrible and worthless". Well, the Meg part of it at least. >_> |
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| Soul | Jan 5 2008, 07:55 PM Post #61 |
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Just because you have slightly higher Speed, more luck and res you're suddenly far better than characters who have a fair lead over you on Str and Def? Okay, Brom maybe (who stays quite a bit behind on speed and hurts his offense alot), but Tauroneo starts at 20/14 and if used seriously enough, can promote before 3/13's conclusion <_< Wait, Tauroneo losses in Def by 20/20 and is only slightly ahead in Str, scratch that then @_@ |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Jan 5 2008, 07:58 PM Post #62 |
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And you forgot how the cap ramming of Spd, Lck and Res gives Meg more Str and Def than the average would have you believe again too. >_> |
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| Soul | Jan 5 2008, 07:59 PM Post #63 |
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Well, she'd gain Hp and Skl over Str and Def actually, but you do have a point there too >_> |
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| BIG MAN | Jan 5 2008, 09:42 PM Post #64 |
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No, she can't. As far as I know, talking to her with Brom doesn't recruit her. I'd argue that Meg is lame, but not right now. EDIT: Leonardo joins at level 4, near the end of 1-P. He has 3 chapters to level up before Meg joins in 1-4, and with an average of 1.5~2 levels per chapter (reasonable given FE10's exp rate and the low number of characters so far), he can easily be at level 9 by the time Meg shows up. Leo at level 9: HP: 20 Str: 10 Mag: 0.8 Skl: 15.8 Spd: 11.8 Luck: 9.3 Def: 6.8 Res: 6.8 Meg at level 3: HP: 21 Str: 10 Mag: 1 Skl: 7 Spd: 8 Luck: 8 Def: 10 Res: 5 Let's look at some stats. Leo w/ Iron Bow: 16 Atk, 125.9 Hit, 7.9 Crit, 11.8 AS | 20 HP, 6.8 Def, 6.8 Res, 32.9 Avo Meg w/ Iron Sword: 16 Atk, 112 Hit, 3.5 Crit, 8 AS | 21 HP, 10 Def, 5 Res, 24 Avo Leo has 13.9 hit, 4.4 crit, 3.8 AS, 1.8 Res and 8.9 Avo to Meg's 1 HP and 3.2 Def. Leo wins by a long shot in offense, with almost 4 more AS and a fair bit more hit; that more than outweighs Meg's minor lead in defense, especially given as Leo won't be taking counterattacks a large majority of the time. Congrats, Meg. You're losing to one of the worst Dawn Brigade units as soon as you join. >_> I'd post something about Meg's growths sucking ass as well, but for now I'm too lazy. Have fun. :D |
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| Nate | Jan 5 2008, 11:58 PM Post #65 |
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Hey, Leo's always been fine by me. <_< |
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| BIG MAN | Jan 6 2008, 12:03 AM Post #66 |
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YOUR OPINION IS NOT VALUED :O |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Jan 6 2008, 02:10 AM Post #67 |
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*looks around* Uh, that's apparently been changed in the NA version then, because I'm pretty sure it used to be the case. 'k that's a big point down for Meg. But she still has much more potential than Leonardo, please. But she does lose out to Aran and Nolan because of her underleveledness in part 1. She's still much better than what she's currently given credit for. He wins a little on joining time with SIX levels on her, then it only goes downhill for him, especially considering he has bows. Also, in your analysis, you did a good job of pointing out that Leonardo having Bows will allow him to not be countered, while subtly lefting out the fact that he can't counterattack melee himself, puting him at an handicap at gaining EXP and lowering the impact of his statistical offense advantage. You're lucky you have me to correct that :D
That was awfully worded. Here, let me correct it for you : Congrats Leo, you barely beat out a unit 6 levels lower than you when she join, then start losing almost instantly after some training. There, much better.
Her growths are setup so she cap rams three stats, which instantly makes them excellent given the workings of BEXP. |
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| Bears | Jan 6 2008, 02:16 AM Post #68 |
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hey hey guys guess what meg isnt a level 10 light mage |
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| Seth | Jan 6 2008, 02:34 AM Post #69 |
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I did. And while yes, personal experience means nothing, mine did turn out pretty close to average, by which I mean really damn good. And y'know what? He wasn't really worth it, because I brought Mia to Endgame instead. |
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| BIG MAN | Jan 6 2008, 04:47 AM Post #70 |
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Quite.
Prove it.
Indeed.
See two quotes up.
Mm-hmm.
What's with this random stating of things without proof? Lame.
Pfft, like Meg can do any better. If you put her in the front lines she gets DA'd and raepd, so obviously she's going to have to stay back and finish off weakened enemies, if she even gets to do that. She's not frontlining at all. You're lucky you have me to correct that :D
Let's look at some stats at Endgame, then, after they've had 6 chapters to grow in. I'll give Meg 1 level/chapter, and that's being generous, given her fail joining situation and low Mov (which kills her usability for the next ~2 chapters). Leo gets the rough average of 1.5 levels/chapter. Leo at level 18: (ignoring the possibility of bexp since FEPlanet's being lame) HP: 25.4 Str: 13.6 Mag: 2.1 Skl: 19.9 Spd: 14.9 Luck: 15.1 Def: 9.9 Res: 9.8 Meg at level 9: HP: 24.6 Str: 12.1 Mag: 1.9 Skl: 9.4 Spd: 11.9 Luck: 12.5 Def: 12.1 Res: 8 Leo w/ Steel Bow: 23.6 Atk, 134.9 Hit, 9.95 Crit, 14.9 AS | 25.4 HP, 9.9 Def, 9.8 Res, 44.9 Avo Meg w/ Steel Sword: 21.1 Atk, 116.3 Hit, 4.7 Crit, 11.9 AS | 24.6 HP, 12.1 Def, 8 Res, 36.3 Avo Yeah, uh, Meg? You just got owned in both offense and defense by Leo. :hmm:
Uh, wtf? She caps Res at level ~15, but even then her growths (even discounting Mag) total 310%, so you don't want to BEXP her. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Jan 6 2008, 05:08 AM Post #71 |
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XFD 1 level for Meg and 1.5 for Leo? I'm not even responding to that, that just ridiculous an argument if I ever see one. Not posting proof is one thing, but posting bull and trying to pass it as proof isn't any better. Come back with numbers that make sense please. BTW, she's not getting doubled with an 8 speed base and a 65% growth much. At the BEXP thing, I was mainly pointing at the second tier. EDIT : I do intend to write an argument in full. Just not at night. >_> |
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| Chrono | Jan 6 2008, 04:01 PM Post #72 |
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Can't we all just agree that Meg is vying with Fiona and Leonardo for the worst beorc unit in the game, all statistics considered? I mean, they all have good points: Fiona has TWO native skills, both of which work decently for her, and Earth affinity. Meg is statistically the best general when fully levelled. Leonardo gets a sweet PRF bow. But they all have bad points too: Fiona is HORRENDOUSLY underlevelled, and isn't as good as the other pallies statistically. Meg starts even more underlevelled than Fiona, has terrible defense for a unit that relies on defense, and bad growths for her caps. (Despite the BEXP use arguement.) Leonardo is destroyed by both other archers stats-wise, and has bad bases for his starting level. |
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| Tyrone Buggums | Jan 6 2008, 04:45 PM Post #73 |
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D: My level 11 Light Sage Micaiah has only 12 SPD. I didn't know she auto-promoted at only chapter 11 so she was only level 16, but still 12 speed is cwazy. At least her stats totally pwn the rest of her averages. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Jan 6 2008, 05:45 PM Post #74 |
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Okay, I'll just attack the argument that Meg gets to level less than Leo. Let's see the good and bad points for leveling Meg in comparison to Leo : Bad : Underleveledness means bad stats. Though they're barely worse than Leo, who isn't underleveled so if Leo can level, she can alright too. Good : There's a bunch of those. Lessee... - Lower level may come with worse stats, but it comes with a much higher EXP gain per battle too. When Meg joins, she's prolly getting about 1.5 times the EXP Leo is gaining. -Better defenses means she can be more agressive than Leo. If you're trying to argue Meg can't frontline, then Leo hasn't the beginning of a chance to fight either. Don't get me the range argument, enemy move is 5+ where his range is 2, so he'd have to expose himself either way. -Speaking about range, Meg can actually counter on enemy phase. Which would be where a unit can often gain about half of his EXP. In summary, Meg can fight twice as much as Leo and survive better at the cost of dealing a bit less damage, and gains more EXP than him. And he's getting 1.5 times her levels? Please. It's the other way around. I'd actually agree with Leo gaining 1.5 levels per chapter given a rough chapter length and how much he gets to attack. And in this case, Meg can easily fetch 2.25 levels given her underleveledness EXP boost. Let's see what THIS threshold would give. Leonardo 18 Archer HP: 25.4 Str: 13.6 Mag: 2.1 Skl: 19.9 Spd: 14.9 Luck: 15.1 Def: 9.9 Res: 9.8 Meg 16 Armor Sword HP 28.8 Str 14.55 Mag 2.95 Skl 12.2 Spd 16.65 Lck 17.75 Def 14.55 Res 10* Wins-every-stat-but-Skl-kthxbai |
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| BIG MAN | Jan 6 2008, 10:15 PM Post #75 |
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Pfeh. While I'd love to continue this debaet, it's just impossible to really do so without solid numbers, given as all I can really do is say "well, what I remember is that x", which is extremely lame. As such, I'm inclined to agree with Chrono in this. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Jan 6 2008, 11:37 PM Post #76 |
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I dunno, I gave rather solid numbers if you ask me. I definitely think Meg >> Fiona and Leo. But since Serenes says she doesn't rejoin on 3-7 anymore, that doesn't matter that much anyway, which is actually the main good point I thought she had to begin with. >_> |
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| BIG MAN | Jan 6 2008, 11:44 PM Post #77 |
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No enemy stats + no exp formula + really weird averages (wtf, FEPlanet, damn your bugs) = sad Marge. |
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