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Topic Started: Mar 2 2008, 02:30 AM (549 Views)
Gigs
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Yeah, I've started playing again recently so I'll be able to start FE10 right when I get it, and I've noticed I'm using quite alot of characters. Would like some information on which of the following get alot of use in FE10 or not.

Ike(of course)
Boyd
Oscar
Rhys
Mia
Rolf
Marcia
Lethe
Volke
Nephenee
Brom
Jill
Tormod
Tanith
Reyson
Haar

Now, I don't use all of these guys equally, but I use them enough that I could feasibly get those bonuses for FE10 for them(if I'm remembering how the bonuses work right).
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Gigs
Mar 1 2008, 11:30 PM
Yeah, I've started playing again recently so I'll be able to start FE10 right when I get it, and I've noticed I'm using quite alot of characters. Would like some information on which of the following get alot of use in FE10 or not.

Ike
Boyd
Oscar
Rhys
Mia
Rolf
Marcia
Lethe
Volke
Nephenee
Brom
Jill
Tormod
Tanith
Reyson
Haar

Now, I don't use all of these guys equally, but I use them enough that I could feasibly get those bonuses for FE10 for them(if I'm remembering how the bonuses work right).

Bold means they are used a lot, italics means they are used a lot but that you have better options.

In terms of sheer numbers of chapters available in FE10, I believe the top non-Lord characters are Haar and Ilyana, but Ilyana's not that great. Haar and Shinon are quite possibly the two best non-Lord units, as well. Save an Angelic Robe for Haar in FE9; if he caps HP in FE9, he'll start with it capped in FE10.
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Gigs
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Ooh, if Haar gets that useful, I'll certainly be using him more.

And I don't care overly on having better options or not. I just use characters I like. >_>
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Okees. And if you like Haar, you'll love him in FE10. He's pretty much a god. He can solo the chapter he joins, and is the only one that can really damage the boss.

Not to mention he's the best wall in the game, period.
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Gartrie >>> Brom in FE10 D:

I wouldn't call Haar the best wall, but he's a good one. Several characters can outshine him in that department though >_>
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HP for Haar isn't really relevant. >_>

And wut @ better options than Jill. She kicks ass. Always.

...except maybe in Endgame when she caps all her stats only to realize that her caps aren't rly that spectacular. But she's still good then! >_>
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Soulavenger69
Mar 1 2008, 11:46 PM
Gartrie >>> Brom in FE10 D:

I wouldn't call Haar the best wall, but he's a good one. Several characters can outshine him in that department though >_>

Haar has greater mobility, the best weapon type, and the best class type. His only disadvantage is that he can't utilize the bonus stats from terrain.

As for Brom and Gatrie, Brom competes with fewer good characters for EXP and has the best weapon type, again. Like Haar, he is the best candidate to fight the boss in the chapter he joins.
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Mar 1 2008, 09:50 PM
Haar has greater mobility, the best weapon type, and the best class type.  His only disadvantage is that he can't utilize the bonus stats from terrain.

Well, as far as just being invincible, there are a bunch of characters that can do that. Haar only has Jill to challenge him in the flying/invincible/death-dealing doom-thing department, though, and he's better than her at it. >_>
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Plenty of people can block and just be invincible, yes. However, Haar can also do VERY well in the retaliation department, and can stand up to a large group of enemies. In addition to that, his high Move stat and flight allow him to traverse the map quickly, which means he can get into position faster than the slower "wall" units.
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...so what're the criteria for being "best wall", again?
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Well, I think this transcends simply being "best wall" and goes to their versatility as a unit overall. After all, not all maps will cater to the abilities of characters with such narrow uses.
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Haar has a weakness to Thunder magic, which might make him shy away when there's Thunder Sages nearby, which is what a wall isn't supposed to be doing <_<

Granted, those situations are far and few inbetween, but something to note.

And uhh, are to you trying to pull the "This characters takes Exp that other Greil Mercs can use" argument on me? Cause last I checked, that argument is both bad and old (fyi, Brom is only the best candidate to fight the boss in the chapter he joins in is because he's the only one that CAN fight the boss without getting raped >_>)
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Mar 2 2008, 12:06 AM
Haar has a weakness to Thunder magic, which might make him shy away when there's Thunder Sages nearby, which is what a wall isn't supposed to be doing <_<

Granted, those situations are far and few inbetween, but something to note.

As you yourself noted, this rarely happens. The nerf to Thunder magic makes this weakness negligible except in the presence of high-level Thunder magic, anyway.

And uhh, are to you trying to pull the "This characters takes Exp that other Greil Mercs can use" argument on me? Cause last I checked, that argument is both bad and old (fyi, Brom is only the best candidate to fight the boss in the chapter he joins in is because he's the only one that CAN fight the boss without getting raped >_>)

Gatrie doesn't take EXP away, since he should be getting it anyway. Out of the characters that are worth using, though, Brom is in a group in which there are fewer compared to Gatrie's group, so it's not really a stretch to say he'll be gaining more EXP than Gatrie. The chapters that he is in before getting Gatrie have chokepoints for him to soak up EXP with, too. I'm not saying Gatrie is bad; he's actually very good. I just think it's reasonable to say that Brom might be higher in terms of levels.

And saying that you don't have better options doesn't mean that all of your other options are worse, y'know. Gatrie's not necessarily a better option, but he's not really worse, either. Marshalls aren't that good in the endgame anyway.

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Gatrie starts better all-round (IIRC), has MAGIC ROLLERSKATES speed base/growth, and caps strength before Brom, IIRC. Brom has better luck, though.

At least, in FE10.
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Pfeh, mobility isn't everything anyway (Unless you rush) <_<

Brom starts at level 2, while Gatrie starts at level 10. Unless you can explain Brom getting more than 8 levels in the 3 chapters he's in before Gatrie joins, there's no way he's going to be higher leveled than Gatrie /:
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Rushing isn't the only use for mobility. If you haven't played a mission before, it's nice to have units that can move across the map quickly to deal with surprise reinforcements. Haar is also a good rescuer, and makes for good bait to draw out other fliers. Mobility is just as good on defense as it is on offense.
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Rushing isn't the only use for mobility. If you haven't played a mission before, it's nice to have units that can move across the map quickly to deal with surprise reinforcements.

Now, unless reinforcements completely catch you off guard, you'll probably be able to smack them with whoever's nearby anyway >_>

Haar is also a good rescuer,

As do 99.99% of all other mounted units... but point >_>

and makes for good bait to draw out other fliers.

As is any other tank I can use <_<

Mobility is just as good on defense as it is on offense.

orly?
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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I suppose I should specify on the baiting of fliers...I'm talking about the annoying ones that move into range so that they can attack you but you can't attack them (i.e. over water).
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I'm not saying Gatrie is bad; he's actually very good. I just think it's reasonable to say that Brom might be higher in terms of levels.

Except Gatrie is outright a lot better than Brom in terms of, well, stats, meaning he totally outshines him. Also, Brom won't be past Gatrie's level when he rejoins. Part 2 is awfully short.
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Gatrie is better than Brom, then.
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

That's what I've been saying, but does he listen, noooooo D:
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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That's what I've been saying, but does he listen, noooooo D:

Quiet, you. >__>
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marshalls are very good in the endgame~!

...part 2 endgame >_>
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Eh, this is a really old save-file(first started probably about a year ago now).

And like I already said, I stick with characters I like. Sothe bugs me, so unless he somehow gets better in FE10, I'm not gonna be too big on using him, considering he'll still be useless for alot of FE9.
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Your lack of Sothe use even though you plan on transferring is laughable.

Meh, not much Sothe has to gain in FE10 anyway >_>
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Sothe's level 20 stats are transferred over directly to FE10, overwriting his usual bases, which are:

35 HP, 18 Str, 4 Mag, 20 Skl, 20 Spd, 15 Lck, 14 Def, 9 Res

His FE9 averages are quite inferior to that.

The best data transfer candidates out of your list are: Ike, Mia, Marcia, Neph, and Jill, because they are likely to cap multiple stats at 20/20 (they have to be at 20/20 for transfer bonuses) on average, which is awesome. Volke and Tormod have horrible availability and Tanith isn't much better, but Tanith's okay as a unit. Lethe is pretty lame as all cat laguz suck in this, but the rest are all decent-good (Haar is a god in this one).
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Lethe is pretty lame as all cat laguz NOT NAMED RANULF (but he's only meh) suck in this, but the rest are all decent-good (Haar is a god in this one).

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