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| Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, a summary | |
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| Nate | Sep 7 2008, 01:18 AM Post #1 |
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(spoilers) Fire Emblem is famous for its traditions. It is quite the traditional game! Certain character archetypes show up over and over. The hero is always a noble lord who has been wronged in some way. This man (and it is always a man) then gathers a band of his friends to avenge himself, eventually finding the true cause of his miseries and fixing all of his problems with a really old, really shiny sword. Oddly, the same exact group of people helps the lord each time. The red and green knights, one serious and the other jovial, make an appearance, as do the swordfighter recruited from the enemy and many others. The actual manner in which the game plays is also fixed in stone; a group of about ten to fourteen allies fight in a manner characterized by limited options, breakable weaponry and permanent death. These factors lead to risk-averse play, to the point where "battle tactics" are reduced to slowly advancing, in a column, with the sturdier people in front and the more sensitive in the back. The fact that "reinforcements" can show up randomly from the map's edge does not help in this regard, either. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance was widely praised by fans of the series for its introduction of new features into the series. For one thing, the main character was - get this - not a lord! Okay, sure, he gets lorded eventually, but that's just a formality; the real bonus is that he can be rude to royalty and say whatever he thinks, a character trait that was not used in a Fire Emblem game for a main character since two games previous. Ike's motivation was novel, as well; he seeks to avenge his father's death. Of course, the father of a main lord died in Fire Emblem 9, Fire Emblem 8, Fire Emblem 7, Fire Emblem 6, Fire Emblem 5, Fire Emblem 4... but let's just chalk it up to a required feature of any coming-of-age story, which big video game epics always have a bit of. It also features novelties such as more mobile cavalry and special "skills" for characters, which are new in that they weren't used in the past three games, for good reason. Eventually, Ike will prevail and defeat his adversary, some crazy king guy without even a sympathetic backstory. Crazy king guy wants to throw the world into chaos using some Dangerous Ancient Artifact which lights up when the whole world is at war. Fortunately, the Dangerous Ancient Artifact decides to stay put, so the world is not thrown into chaos and Ike gets to nobly renounce his title in peace. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn starts in a novel way that isn't even just me being sarcastic. Micaiah, a break from both the Fire Emblem tradition of having male leads and the Fire Emblem tradition of having leads with actual character traits, is leading a resistance force in the very country which Ike defeated in the last game! Were Ike's actions morally justified, asks the player, as Sothe, a veteran of the war who looks at Ike as a hero, and Micaiah, who views him as the cause for their nation's misery, debate the issue. Fortunately for the player, this issue is resolved fairly quickly as you find out that it is the corruption of the Evil Empire that is oppressing their country, not the Noble Little Kingdom Ike fought for. Moral ambiguity is hard! The Resistance succeeds in its quest to free its country, and then comes a brief character piece on the Noble Little Kingdom's queen, Elincia. Elincia manages to carry this entire section of the game by herself, partly because she is actually an interesting person and partly because it seems she is the only person in her country who is. She then steps aside to allow for the best part of the game to commence. The best part of the game stars Ike, the hero from the previous game. In Path of Radiance, Ike developed from a weak child into a strong and capable commander. (Coming of age, remember?) Anyway, this means that Ike marches into Radiant Dawn already a strong and capable commander. I mean, he doesn't even run off in a foolhardy manner when he finds out His Father's Killer survived the last game! Anyway, Ike has already come of age, so he gets no plot development throughout the entire game. He is thus paired with the Hot-Blooded Allied Commander, who can charge off like an idiot with the best of them. Ike is fighting with the Laguz, who appear to be an entire race, no, several races of Noble Warrior Guys, with "guys who betray the hero every time" and "bird elves" thrown in for kicks. Ike and the Hot-Blooded Commander are, of course, fighting the Evil Empire, which started a war because they are evil racists. Surprisingly, the Hot-Blooded Commander manages to botch the whole thing, forcing the Forces of Good into desperate retreat. Fortunately, they manages to pick up the Noble Little Kingdom along the way, as Elincia nobly sacrifices her three-dimensionality in order to join Ike. This doesn't really sound like the best part of the game, does it? But I forgot to mention the other part. You see, while Ike has been leading the Forces of Good, Micaiah's entire country has been drafted into the Forces of Evil. This leads the authors into contortions of Orson Scott Card-like levels to convince us that she is perfect and spotless, despite her execution of a racist war and her attempt to burn her enemies alive. The only problem here is the crushing disappointment felt when you realize that Micaiah is still going to get away with this spotless. Anyway, that's only half the best part. The other half is that this part legitimately does a good job of feeling like the world is crashing down. First it seems like a fairly standard, boring plot; the Forces of Good clash against the Forces of Evil, and they'll prevail, right? But then Micaiah, who is presented as Good Incarnate, starts fighting for Evil, and the Forces of Good start losing, and then you find out that all of the sympathetic characters from the Evil Empire are actually fighting against the whole thing (okay, that one was unsurprising,) and then comes the boiling oil. And even a few guys from the Really Old Country of Being Neutral get involved, which comes out of nowhere, and a bunch of laguz (who the Forces of Evil are racist against, remember?) start fighting for Evil, and... things get very confused. And then, at the Final Battle, there's this weird glowing number on the top-right of the screen. This weird glowing number is basically the best thing that has ever happened to the Fire Emblem series to date. You soon come to realize that the number goes up one every time someone dies. You also soon realize that every time the number goes up, things start happening. The Sacred Bird Elf collapses. Micaiah wanders off into the wilderness, leaving the Evil forces leaderless. The Really Old Neutral Country guy starts to go crazy. Stuff like that. And then, eventually, the whole thing just collapses, and the Dangerous Ancient Artifact - you forgot about the Dangerous Ancient Artifact, didn't you? - goes off. There is more game after this, but it really isn't important. You go on some religious crusade, it turns out God is actually Satan, and the whole world except all of the named characters turns to stone. (It'd have been really cool if they actually turned most of your party to stone as well, to let the disaster actually touch the player, but alas, this was not to be.) The few characters from Path of Radiance who hadn't shown up yet make their appearances, etcetera, etcetera. After this, the Forces of Good (now with Micaiah in tow) prevail, Evil gets beaten for a while, and Intelligent Systems goes on to remake their first game for the third time. Life goes on. But let's not remember that. Let's remember the creepy blue numbers in the upper-right-hand corner of the screen, and mourn for the game Intelligent Systems tried so hard to make. |
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| Chrono | Sep 7 2008, 01:21 AM Post #2 |
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tl; dr; ri too long, did read, regret it |
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| Nate | Sep 7 2008, 01:24 AM Post #3 |
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I was considering placing this post in Serious Discussions specifically to avoid worthless replies like this one. I would appreciate at least an attempt at discussion. |
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| Eusine | Sep 7 2008, 01:25 AM Post #4 |
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BRING ME MOAR SUICUNE~
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10/10, would read again. I thought it was well thought out, and I haven't even played FE 10 yet >_>; |
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| Vicas | Sep 7 2008, 01:28 AM Post #5 |
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.
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Gotta say, you summed it up pretty well. The story kinda had the chance to be interesting, but they fell back on old characters and made sure that all playable characters couldn't possibly be fleshed out any more by killing supports, so we got Mary Suecaiah and the Blue Wonder. And I liked 3-E a lot, especially because of the number. |
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| Seth | Sep 7 2008, 01:29 AM Post #6 |
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I'm...HUNGRY!
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Nicely executed, Medi. |
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| Bears | Sep 7 2008, 01:30 AM Post #7 |
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bird elves :D Now, more seriously, only Medi could write something like that. |
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes". 4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting. 4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama. | |
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| Vicas | Sep 7 2008, 01:32 AM Post #8 |
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.
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Oh, almost forgot. They managed to take all the fun out of being nearly godly and killing everything. That was the only thing that kept FE4 going, and without it, this game is just so hard to get through. D: |
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| Chrono | Sep 7 2008, 01:35 AM Post #9 |
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Okay, attempting discussion. I think RD had a lot of potential in the plot. I mean, look at it. In the first chapter alone you can see that beginnings of moral ambiguity, shades of foreshadowing (which never really gets picked up), and characters who all have the potential to be legitimate characters with interesting backstories. All that's flushed by roughly 1-8. Part 2 is probably the best part, plot wise. It shows that all's not well in happytown, our hero from the last game seems to be God-knows-where while the crap is hitting the fan, and they could have done a lot with Ludveck actually winning (which I was hoping for, really. Crimea allying with Begnion and Daien would have been pretty cool, IMO). They also could have held off on pulling Ike back into the equation (Ike and Micaiah are the two most Mary-Sue main characters in FE history), maybe pull back the Greil Mercs, but have Ike still doing nothing. Part 3, again, wasted potential. Daien's fighting the laguz for no good discernable reason, at the very least, Sothe could have left. But no, he has to defend his naieve Sue to the death. Idiot. As to why Zihark and Jill stick around during all this, I have no clue. They should have left right off, instead of giving the player a choice. If anything, Pelleas should have revealed the blood pact right away (Pelleas may be the only character with any depth in FE10), and then at least it would make sense for everyone to stay and fight. As for the Dark god, I would have been happier if they had gone the stereotypical route, instead of futiley attempting a subversion. At least then, the plot up to that point would have made some sense. Sephiran and Zelgius are totally wasted as well, second playthrough or not. Sephy's as stupidly low on motivation as that OTHER Sephy (you know of whom I speak!), and Zelgy goes from "professional soldier" to "insane warlike psycho" at the drop of a helmet. (And that helmet could have been dropped in a much better way, despite the fact we all knew beforehand). Levail could have been a character in his own right as well, but he's relegated to "generic boss who happens to have appeared a couple times". I dunno, I can't think right now. I might have listed an eigth of the problems I have. EDIT: Also, 3-E may have been the only time I was excited to see what happened next in an FE plot. (Outside FE4) Watching the numbers tick up and the heartbeat pound...I couldn't wait for the dramatic entrance of a huge powerful monsterous boss. (It turned out to be an anticlimactic waif, which totally ruined all the epic of 3-E) |
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| Vicas | Sep 7 2008, 01:54 AM Post #10 |
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3-E kinda felt like they were gonna end up making a dramatic reveal which explained all the little inconsistencies that are around. Instead, we got more mystery and oh, by the way, Ike, Zelgius killed your dad. Honestly, it was the worst reveal I have ever seen, even if I already knew. |
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| Serene Steelzard | Sep 7 2008, 07:34 AM Post #11 |
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*gives up reading halfway through* Too much half-assed sarcasm for me. *yawns and wanders off* |
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| Lewa | Sep 7 2008, 12:50 PM Post #12 |
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Me: Even more reason to never bother finishing the game. Though I guess I should try to get to this part with numbers. |
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| SabreCut | Sep 7 2008, 04:47 PM Post #13 |
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Don't worry guys, I got a good price for selling you out
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I wrote something similar to this a while back, but never got around to posting it because it's incredibly long and I couldn't be bothered. And it was only half as long as I wanted it to be too. |
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| Heroman | Sep 7 2008, 07:55 PM Post #14 |
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I applaud your eloquence. This is basically what I think about the game. Instead of listing the flaws and leaving it at that, I think I'll offer some suggestions as to what the game could have done to be better. -Leave supports alone you dicks -More new characters, less returning characters -Better returning characters (SERIOUSLY WHERE THE HELL IS LARGO, HE'S MANLY ENOUGH TO WIELD AN AXE WITH ONE HAND) -Maybe make it a little shorter, or at least make the pacing better -REWORK LAGUZ SO THAT NORMAL CHARACTERS DON'T FAIL AT LIFE AND THE ROYALTY RAPE EVERYTHING -CROSSBOWS MUST GO, PEGASUS KNIGHTS HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS ALREADY -Seriously, you've been doing this for almost two decades and you still haven't figured out how to balance your damn games. ALAS FOR TORMAN AND HIS MANLY CREW, WE KNEW THEM NOT. -Here's one of the big ones. The Dawn Brigade. Rework them entirely into an interesting group of people. Eddie and Leonardo were about as interesting as paste, nobody bloody cares about Sothe even if he is sexy now, Nolan was awesome and had a lot of potential BUT HE GOT NO GODDAMN SCREENTIME, and, well, Micaiah. God, Micaiah. Laura and Aran... uh, I don't even remember their defining traits. Meg is fat. Vika was another character that actually started off pretty interesting (or at least really cute) because she's a GODDAMN RAVEN THAT DOESN'T STAB YOU IN THE BACK AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE, but again, no screentime. The Black Knight is STILL ALIVE, LOL SO RANDUM HE'S MAKIN SUM CAEK. Izuka, well, he's Izuka. Pelleas was one of the genuinely interesting characters in the game and we needed more of him. Now, if we do all this. Make the Dawn Brigade a group you have an attachment to (aside from the masses of returning characters, they have the benefit of previous development going for them) and not just a bunch of filler characters you use until you get the Greil Mercenaries back. Now that we've done this through whatever virgin sacrifices, we add more chapters to the first part of the game, which would have been the most interesting if not for general writing ineptitude. We've got more time to bond with characters that we need to bond to, because they're new. We spend the majority of the game with characters we already know- seriously, why? If they're not going to give us new supports and character development for them... blagh. I feel I must make a special aside for Micaiah. She could have been a good character. Hell, she -was- a good character- before the game began. Her problem is that all of her interesting development occurred before the damn game began. We should have seen it happen, not just have heard about it. It would have been nice if the writers hadn't used her as the magic "SEE THE FUTURE, MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER" button, but even that would have been tolerable if she was a likable character with depth. Now, if we have this group of sympathetic people that we genuinely like, it makes part three of the game much, much, MUCH more interesting. We would have seen the moral ambiguity, confusion, the chaos (HINTHINTHINT) much more clearly and have been much more affected by it. Even Pelleas and Micaiah's general disregard to logical thinking might have been forgiven- real people do really stupid things. But as it stands now, it's just characters that don't feel real at all being annoying and retarded. It's also really out of character- if Micaiah's been doing everything right so far, why is she ****ing up now? It doesn't make sense. Now, the last part of the game. One of the biggest disappointments in recent memory for me. In the last bits of part 3, the game seemed like it was finally getting its act together and being pretty cool. Yes, we're with the Greil Mercenaries again, but after how annoying the Dawn Brigade was, it's not like we really mind. As Medi put it so well, the last chapter of part 3 was actually pretty masterful in storytelling. The ominous heartbeat, the occasional comments the characters made (SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE OF THEM DAMMIT), those glowy numbers... **** was going down, and everyone knew it. And then when the magic number is hit, and everything is going to hell, I was going "**** YEAH THIS IS SOME AWESOME STUFF". Everything was finally going to fall into place. This dark god, the motivations for the war, all of the loose ends from the first game. It was going to be glorious. ...then the dark god turns out to be a feisty little girl who more or less makes the world end when she's upset. Goddammit. GOD DAMN IT. This doesn't even count as a subversion anymore. They should have stuck with the bloody plan and unleashed something like the Demon King or Loptuous or whatever. Instead, we get the tired old JRPG cliche of "THE CHURCH IS REALLY EVIL GUYS THE GOD THEY WORSHIP IS A BIG DICK. OH, ALSO ZELGIUS AND SEPHIRAN DID IT BECAUSE THEY HATE EVERYTHING LOL". The remaining chapters of the game are so incredibly boring it almost defies description. Instead of what we can at least assume is a living, breathing army with its own motivations and issues is replaced with a bunch of brainwashed assholes painted gold blathering on about heretics and the goddess and stuff we've heard sooo many times before. There isn't even the usual feel of a living world of warring nations and politics that an FE game at very least tries to achieve because everyone has been TURNED TO STONE LOL (Including Largo wtfwtfwtf). Oliver's WTF return was pretty awesome, I admit with pride, and in his own right, he's an interesting character. It also marked the return of some antagonists with things to say. The remaining senators in the Tower of Salvatio-er, Guidance? weren't entirely remarkable, though I felt it was a shame that there was no way to save the older guy. Neither good nor evil, just a frightened old man trying to survive in a frightening world. The Black Knight battle was remarkably anti-climactic. "I WUZ JUST HOLDIN BAK LAST TIME LULZ" "O RLY NOW DEN LETZ DO THIS" "OH WOW U GOT SKILLZ DOG GG NO RE". We already did this once before in a much more memorable (albeit much more frustrating) way back in 9. Now, King Dehingwhatever and his dragons. Wow. What a bunch of idiots. I hated these guys sooo much. I think that might have been the point. They literally stay neutral and just give a big "**** you" to everyone because they might throw a big temper tantrum and wreck things if they get too involved in a war. Self-centered dicks. And when they finally do take action it's to... wait, what? They're fighting so that the goddess can kill them all? Wow. That makes sense. Next up was Sephiran. He's a pretty cliched character when all is said and done, and I don't feel much like discussing him except that he too is a hypocritical dick. Ashera, next in the hypocritical dick line, is the biggest of them all. Not only is she really obnoxious, her inability to see her own faults and weaknesses when presented in front of her made her an inferior version of Stern Reggiseur and not nearly as fun to fight. Even with her "WTF IS THIS" stats, she just didn't feel like a threat at all. Maybe it's because all your characters have more or less comparable beefiness. Ashnard would be laughed out of the room in FE10, but during the final battle of FE9 he felt like a goddamn menace. The only folks you had that could really face him equally were Ike, maybe Nasir, and whatever Laguz king you brought along. In hard mode, he actually actively moved about ****ed **** up. This is not an "OMG TOO EZ" complaint. This is more of a complaint that the final boss of an epic saga should, well, be at least atmospherically adequate. Ashera just kind of stood there like a frail heron chick and occasionally put on a lightshow and commented about how weak you all were. Except she was actually getting her ass kicked pretty bad. If I had anything else to say, I forgot it, because this post is waay long enough. It might come to me later. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 7 2008, 08:04 PM Post #15 |
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I broke my shades!
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I don't want to sound dickish, but hasn't everything in this topic said 10 times already, just with less massive wall of texting? |
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| Heroman | Sep 7 2008, 08:06 PM Post #16 |
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Quiet, Shrimp, we're RAGEing. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 7 2008, 08:08 PM Post #17 |
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This has to be like fourth time you're RAGEing about FE10, TBH, and your post barely added anything to Medi's except going deeper into how part 4 sucked. It's seriously getting old to me. >_> |
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| Heroman | Sep 7 2008, 08:08 PM Post #18 |
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Don't read the topic, then? >_> Seriously, it's not like this is an MSN convo or anything. |
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| SabreCut | Sep 7 2008, 08:12 PM Post #19 |
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Don't worry guys, I got a good price for selling you out
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Wait until you see my version. |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 7 2008, 08:13 PM Post #20 |
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I broke my shades!
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But the problem isn't this topic, it's that each and every discussion about FE10 now inevitably ends into "No supports suck, Micaiah sucks, Part 4 sucks", be it convos, topics, reviews and whatnot. >_> |
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| Jmyster | Sep 7 2008, 08:14 PM Post #21 |
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I'm just going to have Touhou infect everything now
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I actually find this interesting to read. I don't dislike the game, but for some reason, it's fun reading this stuff. By all means... |
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-It makes you wonder what goes on in the minds of people who can't seem to grasp the notion that one =/= all. Perhaps they failed math in school--Spotted Zebra The Character Formerly Known as Jeremy-20/13 Hero Saria-20/20 Wyvern Lady Yumil-15/11 Druid Ankiseth Level 11 Pirate Elandra 20/1 Hunter Maria Valine (RP ONLY) | |
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| SabreCut | Sep 7 2008, 08:15 PM Post #22 |
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Don't worry guys, I got a good price for selling you out
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If you're sure. I'll post it in the reviews section. Might as well contribute to my domination of all topics in there. |
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| Heroman | Sep 7 2008, 08:20 PM Post #23 |
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Could it possibly be because these are the dominant and most legitimate complaints about the game? It's so prevalent because it's true, and because it's so gamebreaking. You can still have fun with FE10, as I did, but it's difficult to look back and objectively say that it's a great game. |
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| Jmyster | Sep 7 2008, 08:22 PM Post #24 |
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I'm just going to have Touhou infect everything now
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It's an opinion, so as long as you keep in it review format and don't go too overboard...it should be fine. |
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-It makes you wonder what goes on in the minds of people who can't seem to grasp the notion that one =/= all. Perhaps they failed math in school--Spotted Zebra The Character Formerly Known as Jeremy-20/13 Hero Saria-20/20 Wyvern Lady Yumil-15/11 Druid Ankiseth Level 11 Pirate Elandra 20/1 Hunter Maria Valine (RP ONLY) | |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 7 2008, 08:24 PM Post #25 |
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I broke my shades!
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You make it look like I don't agree with all three of these statements. Guess what? I do agree with the general idea of this topic, I'm just wondering why people feel the need to make topics and reviews and what not about it over and over again when everybody pretty much agreed with it already >_> |
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| SabreCut | Sep 7 2008, 08:26 PM Post #26 |
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Don't worry guys, I got a good price for selling you out
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Alright, I posted it, in all its... *checks on Word* ...nearly 5000 word glory. |
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| Heroman | Sep 7 2008, 08:29 PM Post #27 |
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's because the game was such a massive disappointment, people (myself included) are still butthurt about it. |
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| SabreCut | Sep 7 2008, 08:32 PM Post #28 |
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Don't worry guys, I got a good price for selling you out
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Just to get it out of the way once and for all; am I the only person who doesn't hate Micaiah? |
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| Abyssal_Shrimp | Sep 7 2008, 08:34 PM Post #29 |
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I broke my shades!
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| Heroman | Sep 7 2008, 08:37 PM Post #30 |
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I dislike Micaiah so much because she made me realize that all previous FE leads were pretty much the same and equally lame in their own special ways. That, and precognition is a lame plot device. |
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| Naglfar | Sep 7 2008, 08:37 PM Post #31 |
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| Jmyster | Sep 7 2008, 09:02 PM Post #32 |
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I don't dislike her...and I don't like her. Take away the foresight (or make it less useful), give her more of an edge character wise (just enough so I can see her actually leading troops in battle), and have her earn the people's love rather than being hailed as god almighty (although this was a device used by a certain villain, it still went overboard in my opinion)...or at least make her popular, but not bow before me popular. Without being able to rely on precognition, we can watch her grow into a tactician. I also want to see how she handles dissent within the ranks, troops flagrantly disobeying her...I wanted her to grow into the role a bit more, rather than suddenly being just that good. ...and let's ignore Part 4. Still, I could tolerate her. |
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| Chrono | Sep 8 2008, 12:14 AM Post #33 |
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FYI, I legitamately enjoy playing (and replaying) FE10, but it's the only FE game where I skip the story out of dislike for it, rather than out of time concerns. (In most FE games, when I replay, I reread all the story, unless I know it by heart/want to skip it for time. With FE10, there are a few scenes I watch. To give you a hint, Pelleas' theme plays in almost all of them.) |
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| Vicas | Sep 8 2008, 12:30 AM Post #34 |
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I sort of started to beat it a second time (as in, it was my second attempt to complete my first playthrough, from close to the start of part 3), but then stopped. So I still haven't beaten it. I just can't. |
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| Fallen Morning Flare | Sep 8 2008, 12:51 AM Post #35 |
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HiMAT Laharl!
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Epileptic Tree: Suzumiya Haruhi / Tellus. |
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| Seth | Sep 8 2008, 01:36 AM Post #36 |
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*pictures Ike doing Hare Hare Yukai* |
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| Zap | Sep 8 2008, 05:28 AM Post #37 |
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LTC, somebody actually made something along those lines... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvrTGuB9te8&feature=related Warning: You will laugh. A lot. <_< On topic, I actually liked FE10 quite a bit. Yes, the dialogue sucks. Yes, easy mode sucks. Yes, the support system has been raped beyond any form of recognition. Yes, Micaiah has nothing resembling multi-dimensional personality. Yes, the story is wtf/suxx0rz. There's other stuff, though, and some of it's good, some bad. How many of you actually played through normal mode (or hard mode, for that matter)? There's more dialogue in those modes than there is in normal mode. Plus, there are a handful of quasi-unique supports that don't just use some sort of {insert name} thing for the content of the support (though the ones I've found still suck monkey balls). Besides, if it's too easy for you, try actually using the regular laguz. Anybody who wants to say they all suck needs to take a look at the stats of Ranulf, Janaff, Ulki, and maybe Vika or Skrimir. For anyone who complains about Micaiah's "tactical fame", that actually happens during the battles you play in. Remember that two-part battle in the first battle? The fact that the battle was won with drastically inferior numbers is the start of Micaiah's tactical fame. Yes, the enemies were significantly weaker than all of your own units... but then again, that's been in other Fire Emblem games. The foresight thing is abused, yeah, and I think the writers attempted to establish some connection between Micaiah's foresight getting weird and her hearing Rafiel sing the galdr of rebirth. They didn't do it very well, though. My major problem with the game's plotline is that there were only three people who developed character during the game, and all of them major characters (during the part of the game that actually had a plot and wasn't part 4, which basically ditched all of the character personality that had been building throughout the game). Elincia, Skrimir, and of course Pelleas all developed character in their own ways through the game. In the past game, it wasn't just major characters building character through the game - the most infamous example is Jill, a minor character, who they could've easily done very little storyline with, but they chose to go and give her tons of character building. In this game, out of the characters you actually have to bring to the finale, only one of them (Kurthnaga) has seen any development at all, and he doesn't see much until the game basically wipes out all the storyline it had already been building. Ike built all his character during FE9, and while his character isn't bad, it didn't change (though I did like one of the hidden revealed scenes he gets in playthroughs beyond the first one). Micaiah is always "LIEK TEH OMG I CAN SEE TEH FUTUREZ!!! I MUST PROTECTZ0R TEH PEOPLESEZ!!!" and Sothe is always "lol k i protect j00" in response. Sanaki experiences something that should have caused some kind of growth, but she continues acting the same after that, which only pisses me off some more. Finally... well, IMO, Ena didn't have too much personality to begin with, and I don't really understand why the game makes you bring her to the finale. On top of that, virtually nothing is done on new characters that they could've done so much with - in particular, Nailah, Volug, Vika... and of course Heather (and I totally don't have any ulterior motivations for mentioning Heather <_<;;). Another problem I have with the plotline is how blatantly inconsistent the facts are regarding the Branded. Micaiah and Sephiran both talk about how the brand shows up only several generations after a beorc commits some form of beastiality with a laguz, but then the reasoning for Pelleas being Ashnard's son is that he appears to have a brand (and the one who actually is Ashnard's son really is a Branded). Does it show up generations later, or right away? They just aren't consistent about it. Overall, I think if you ignore the inferior storyline after part 2, the gameplay is actually quite fun. Part 2 itself is one part I actually enjoyed quite a bit, as while it is not very long, they actually manage to have Elincia grow quite a bit during those few chapters. One way they could've immensely helped the game's lack of dialogue would've to not have so totally raped the support system. More random rewardless base conversations later on would've been nice too; the later ones in FE9 (like when Shinon got hammered) were pure gold. The fighting was fun... the rest of the game, less so. |
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| Chrono | Sep 8 2008, 08:27 AM Post #38 |
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(IIRC, the Brand is like a recessive genetic trait: It can show up right away, or after several generations, at any point in that bloodline.) |
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| Vicas | Sep 8 2008, 08:55 AM Post #39 |
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Personally, I found the gameplay pretty boring the whole way after Part one. As much as I liked Part 2's story, doing every chapter except Endgame seemed like such a chore. I stopped playing in the middle of Part 3 for months. And now I've stopped again on Part 4. Maybe I'll beat this game someday, I dunno. |
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| Seth | Sep 8 2008, 10:53 AM Post #40 |
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| Jmyster | Sep 8 2008, 01:18 PM Post #41 |
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Micaiah became too good too fast for my liking. Another annoying gameplay--to story trait: if she inspires her troops so, WTF happened to her leadership stars? Is she tactically inept or a genius...make up your mind IS. Oh, and yeah, I played through the game twice. All the extra dialogue they added was great...and there was absolutely no reason for them to leave it out the first time through (never mind the convoluted sequence of events you have to do to recurit Mr. X and get that oh so spoilerific bonus scene). It's not as easy to play through this monster again, compared to other FE games. Supports...the "unique" supports still only have a handful of semi-generic lines. I like it gameplay wise, but it just drove a nail into the story. |
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| Chrono | Sep 8 2008, 04:37 PM Post #42 |
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To quote my own FE10 summary: "Pelleas: You're a great commander, with no leadership stars." I mean, heck, freaking Pelleas, the amazing spineless man, has 1. |
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| Serene Steelzard | Sep 8 2008, 04:58 PM Post #43 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Zelgius also have no leadership stars? |
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| Vicas | Sep 8 2008, 05:36 PM Post #44 |
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Zelgy doesn't need leadership stars, he's so manly. |
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| Jmyster | Sep 8 2008, 05:39 PM Post #45 |
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I can understand Zelgius since...well, you don't even get to use him, but a main character hailed as a fine commander having no leadership stars at all? Ouch...it's like they want to make the Dawn Brigade Post-Chapter 1 missions a living hell (on hard/maniac)...never mind, they already are. I just found that bizarre, really. |
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| Vicas | Sep 8 2008, 05:47 PM Post #46 |
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What do leadership stars do, anyway? |
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| Chrono | Sep 8 2008, 05:51 PM Post #47 |
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Boost avoid/hit for everyone in your group. (IIRC) It's like a support from the leader to the whole party. Bizarrely, only the leader's stars count. |
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| Jmyster | Sep 8 2008, 05:59 PM Post #48 |
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Indeed. It became woefully apparent to me in 3-13...when I had a character with parity. |
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| Zap | Sep 9 2008, 03:09 AM Post #49 |
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That really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. In the line of apostles, every one of them was apparently a Branded. How can every first child in a lineage have the same recessive trait? Statistically speaking, there would've had to have been a lot of incest in there for that to be even remotely possible. At Jym: Um, the "convoluted sequence of events" you refer to are actually not that difficult to do. One of them is to simply use a ridiculously overpowered character in a certain chapter. The other one is a little tough, but still far from insane. |
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| Vicas | Sep 9 2008, 08:34 AM Post #50 |
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Welcome to Fire Emblem. |
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| Lewa | Sep 9 2008, 11:49 AM Post #51 |
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Me: Welcome to royalty. That's how they work. |
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| Jmyster | Sep 9 2008, 12:52 PM Post #52 |
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Notice the "and". It's not the character that makes me mad (I'm all but happy to recruit that person by whatever means), but a certain extra scene I still have yet to get. It doesn't matter since I already spoiled myself on the manner/figured it out. |
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| Tookie | Sep 9 2008, 01:42 PM Post #53 |
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![]() [size=-7]Is that the Ike/Soren 4-E-5 convo? Yeah, I gave up on getting that when I realised it meant I'd have to play FE9 again. ;>_>[/size] |
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| Jmyster | Sep 9 2008, 01:50 PM Post #54 |
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I actually managed to get that (thanks to one of my saves that had the support): [size=-5]But I was pissed off when I didn't get the bonus scene in the epilogue, where Soren is revealed to be...apparently, I had to attack Pelleas in 3-E (with him), as well as doing the stuff to get the Ike convo. UGH.[/size] |
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| Tookie | Sep 9 2008, 01:54 PM Post #55 |
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More ![]() [size=-7]Ooooh, the one about Soren being the prince of Daein... I didn't get that one either, but I looked it up when I got fed up of trying to get Soren the 3-13 Blizzard from Jill by recruiting her and sending it down. I'dve used the Meteor, but IIRC Calill needed it more. =([/size] |
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| Jmyster | Sep 9 2008, 01:57 PM Post #56 |
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Sorry about that. Computer send me to the wrong screen. Yeah...and everywhere I looked listed different requirements, so it wasn't worth trying again...and possibly failing. |
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| Seth | Sep 9 2008, 02:41 PM Post #57 |
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[size=-7]I actually managed to get Soren to attack Pelleas from up close. It was ridiculously difficult to pull off, as I had to finish the chapter immediately afterwards or else Nailah would tear Soren in half, but I somehow managed it.[/size] |
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| Nate | Sep 9 2008, 04:19 PM Post #58 |
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I'm pretty sure this entire topic is spoilers, guys. |
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| Tookie | Sep 9 2008, 04:39 PM Post #59 |
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Pretend I put something witty here.
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But they're the types of spoiler people might miss first time. |
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| Zap | Sep 10 2008, 05:06 PM Post #60 |
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![]() [size=-7]Y'know, you could just take out Nailah. It's actually quite a bit easier than it sounds, though it's not as easy as just finishing the battle on the same turn you attack Pelleas. <_<[/size] |
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| Seth | Sep 10 2008, 06:51 PM Post #61 |
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[size=-7]The problem with that would be that I'd have to get the rest of my team that far up the map. Soren only made it that far because Haar carried him. Don't get me wrong, I usually end the chapter with a good chunk of my units clustered around the area occupied by Aran, Nolan, and Edward, but going much further puts too many good units in range of units, and it makes the kill counter go up too fast.[/size] |
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| Zap | Sep 10 2008, 09:08 PM Post #62 |
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[sees no need for spoiler tags at this point] If that's true, then it's a non-issue. Just go for the aforementioned encounter, and then end the battle. |
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