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Sometimes it can be hard playing Fire Emblem.
Topic Started: Dec 5 2008, 04:11 AM (619 Views)
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When you're playing a Fire Emblem, just remember that they're not like other games. Their gameplay is incredibly innovative, almost to the point where you have to be paying complete attention to them to even remotely understand the little intricacies and unique level of detail put into it by Intelligent Systems. I remember playing a chapter in FE7 (though I can't remember what it was), where I thought the game was absolute bollocks while playing it. Then, after putting it down for a moment, I started playing again, and all of a sudden the game had an entirely new level of depth. It was insane the way Fire Emblem could just become something so different when you take a deep look into the game.

Another thing you should note about Fire Emblem games is that it's easy to get a headache while playing them. Not because they're a bad game series, but because of how many ideas their plots are riddled with and how complex they are. Soon enough your head will fill to the brim and the rest will just seem so simple to you. Just turn it off and play it some more the next day.

If you don't like the video games, you'll definitely at least enjoy reading through the games' scripts, and picking apart the plot itself and all of the artistic values that go into making it the complexity that it is.
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See, I really must not have spent very much time ingesting and digesting the plot of any FE game. I haven't played very many, admittedly, but I can't help but compare FE7 to FE9 to FE1 (what I know of FE1 at least) and boil all of them down to "country A, with ebil "emperor" X, invaded country B; you, with goody goody "prince" Y of country C, defend B. but omg, ebil emperor X has a larger plan!" That plan is never very intricate (I WILL TAKE THE FIRE EMBLEM AND RULE THE WORLD [just made that up]) and is only ever a plan to expand on world domination.

But I shouldn't talk. Haven't really tried very hard. Though, really, I think they aren't very worried about the story, or else they would make it hook easier.
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yeah

personally I agree completely

I am disappointed that my college does not offer a course in fire emblem
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Pretend I put something witty here.

This copypasta? ;>_>
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If by "little intricacies" you mean "FRAK, ENEMY REINFORCEMENTS MOVE ON THE TURN THEY SHOW UP IN FE5!?", then I agree with you!

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Garm is the Sacred Twin black axe of Grado. Garm is S-Ranked, meaning a unit must have an S-Rank in axes to use it. Due to the fact that a unit can only one S-Rank, a, say, a Warrior must choose between S-Ranking Bows or S-Ranking Axes. However, I slightly lied. Lyon can S-Rank both Dark Magic and Staves. In Fire Emblem 6: Fuuin no Tsurugi, a unit can S-Rank all possible weapons it can use. Therefore, a FE6 unit, to be specific, a FE6 Paladin, the best of which is Zealot, could use Garm, Audhulma, and Vidofnir. I'm sorry, I slightly lied again. A FE6 unit could not use Fire Emblem 8: The Sacred Stones weapons. However, it can use FE6 weapons. Therefore, it can use the Armads, Durandal, and Malte. However, it can not use all three at once, unless the game has been significantly altered and the Paladin has three arms. But that's slightly off-topic, I digress. We are talking about FE8 because we are on the FE8 board. The possible wielders of Garm are, in order of appearance, Gilliam, Franz, Garcia, Ross, Kyle, Forde, Amelia, Duessel, Gerik, Dozla, Caellach, and Fado. Quite a large portion of FE8's cast can use Garm. However, many of these units can only use axes post-promotion, therefore increasing the difficulty of getting them an S-Rank in axes. It can be done easier, however, if you use the Devil Axe. The Devil Axe gives 8 times as much axe weapon experience as most other axes or most other weapons. However, the Devil Axe is very heavy and very innaccurate. Also, it can backfire and do damage to the user equal to the damage it would've done to the opponent. The Devil Axe is risky but it has a good potential benefit for the user. Garm gives a +5 bonus to Speed. This is good because many of the potential Garm wielders could benefit from the boost. In appearance of order, I mean order of appearance, they are Garcia, Ross, Kyle, Duessel, Dozla, Caellach and Fado. None of them have good Speed. The stereotypical axe user often lacks Speed. A notable exception to this is Dart from Fire Emblem 7: Rekka no Ken. Dart has an impressive Speed stat, so giving Dart the Garm axe would increase his Speed to make it quite high. I'm sorry, I slightly lied again. Please punish me in a kinky way. Back to what I was saying. Dart cannot use Garm, despite the fact that the only weapon type he can use, let alone S-Rank, is axes. Why, you ask? Garm does nto, I mean, not, exist in FE7. However, Basilikos does. Basilikos could be considered an inferior version of Garm. I'm sorry, but I am digressing from the point I am trying to make. Please reprimand me if I do this again. Garm is acquired upon completing Eirika's Chapter 15: Scorched Sand or Ephraim's Chapter 14: Father and Son. Interestingly, the son does not appear during the Chapter. I'm sorry, i, I mean I, slightly lied again. The son, Lyon, appears in conversation scenes before and after the main conflict in Father and Son. However, I am slightly digressing. Upon completion of said Chapter(s), Garm, along with Gleipnir, are added to the main character's inventory. However, something interesting happens when the main character's inventory is full. I am sorry, what happens isn't very interesting. Something truly interesting does happen when the main character's inventory and the Supply convoy is full. In the first instance, you will have to send two of the main character's items to Supply, and you will have to discard two of the main character's items in the latter circumstance. This creates the interesting paradox where the sacred relics of Grado can be simply discarded. This is interesting because such powerful items, two of the eight used to defeat the feared Demon King, are merely thrown away. I'm sorry, I slightly lied again. Only seven of those items can be used against the Demon King. Latona, the Holy Staff of Rausten, cannot be used against the Demon King because it is a staff that heals all of your units except the one who uses it. However, it has little strategic use because getting one of your units to S-Rank Staves is worthless. I'm sorry, I digressed yet again. Please discipline me, Master.
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Is it bad that I read that and understood what the hell you were talking about Magus?

Anyways, yeah. I usually don't pay much attention when I play, I kinda wish I payed more attention though. I hate making the slightest error, and watchin a unit go from full to 0 health in one turn. (I'm looking at you Nolan...)
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Dec 5 2008, 04:11 AM
When you're playing a Fire Emblem, just remember that they're not like other games. Their gameplay is incredibly innovative, almost to the point where you have to be paying complete attention to them to even remotely understand the little intricacies and unique level of detail put into it by Intelligent Systems. I remember playing a chapter in FE7 (though I can't remember what it was), where I thought the game was absolute bollocks while playing it. Then, after putting it down for a moment, I started playing again, and all of a sudden the game had an entirely new level of depth. It was insane the way Fire Emblem could just become something so different when you take a deep look into the game.

Another thing you should note about Fire Emblem games is that it's easy to get a headache while playing them. Not because they're a bad game series, but because of how many ideas their plots are riddled with and how complex they are. Soon enough your head will fill to the brim and the rest will just seem so simple to you. Just turn it off and play it some more the next day.

If you don't like the video games, you'll definitely at least enjoy reading through the games' scripts, and picking apart the plot itself and all of the artistic values that go into making it the complexity that it is.
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ah, the garm essay
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Dec 5 2008, 04:20 AM
See, I really must not have spent very much time ingesting and digesting the plot of any FE game. I haven't played very many, admittedly, but I can't help but compare FE7 to FE9 to FE1 (what I know of FE1 at least) and boil all of them down to "country A, with ebil "emperor" X, invaded country B; you, with goody goody "prince" Y of country C, defend B. but omg, ebil emperor X has a larger plan!" That plan is never very intricate (I WILL TAKE THE FIRE EMBLEM AND RULE THE WORLD [just made that up]) and is only ever a plan to expand on world domination.

But I shouldn't talk. Haven't really tried very hard. Though, really, I think they aren't very worried about the story, or else they would make it hook easier.
*facepalm*

Vid, you need to learn detect non-serious threads and copypastas. Seriously.
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Dec 6 2008, 07:40 PM
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Dec 5 2008, 04:20 AM
See, I really must not have spent very much time ingesting and digesting the plot of any FE game. I haven't played very many, admittedly, but I can't help but compare FE7 to FE9 to FE1 (what I know of FE1 at least) and boil all of them down to "country A, with ebil "emperor" X, invaded country B; you, with goody goody "prince" Y of country C, defend B. but omg, ebil emperor X has a larger plan!" That plan is never very intricate (I WILL TAKE THE FIRE EMBLEM AND RULE THE WORLD [just made that up]) and is only ever a plan to expand on world domination.

But I shouldn't talk. Haven't really tried very hard. Though, really, I think they aren't very worried about the story, or else they would make it hook easier.
*facepalm*

Vid, you need to learn detect non-serious threads and copypastas. Seriously.
Or get a new sarcasm detector
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Vid - Queen of Spades
Dec 5 2008, 04:20 AM
See, I really must not have spent very much time ingesting and digesting the plot of any FE game. I haven't played very many, admittedly, but I can't help but compare FE7 to FE9 to FE1 (what I know of FE1 at least) and boil all of them down to "country A, with ebil "emperor" X, invaded country B; you, with goody goody "prince" Y of country C, defend B. but omg, ebil emperor X has a larger plan!" That plan is never very intricate (I WILL TAKE THE FIRE EMBLEM AND RULE THE WORLD [just made that up]) and is only ever a plan to expand on world domination.

But I shouldn't talk. Haven't really tried very hard. Though, really, I think they aren't very worried about the story, or else they would make it hook easier.
*facepalm*

Vid, you need to learn detect non-serious threads and copypastas. Seriously.
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He never even had an old one, he's always mistaking my sarcasm for something else. D:
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oh kim, you silly texan
wha- oh =\
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