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Topic Started: Jul 9 2009, 04:26 AM (4,387 Views)
Walliard
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The sv_pure whitelist includes all the model/skin directories. What problems, if any, are you having, Kiwi?
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Kiwi's not the one having the problem, someone else brought it up. Kiwi will ask them about it when he gets the chance.
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They said it affected their weapon skins.
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So, are we still getting any use out of this now that the novelty has worn off?
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

I haven't played a game on another server since this went up. I'm not really sure if this is indicative of anything, though. >.>;
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Me and my friends try and play on BIG fortress, if it's up of course
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OH MY PORK!

The utility of the server is amazing, if people want a game we go on and soon it's full. It's not a server I would go on outside of BIG play, but when people want a game, it's good to have.

At the end of the day, I'm not paying, so I should hold no weight. :D
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FYI the update broke SourceMod. I'll be back from work around 3 PM Pacific tomorrow, so if it's fixed by then, I'll refresh it, but if not, don't whine to me that rtv is broken.

In the meantime, I've temporarily set up the rotation as the new maps minus Offblast.
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Kiwi plays it if a bunch of BIG people are playing and he isn't more inclined to do something else.
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Alright, I seem to have everything working again. New server rotation in first post.
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Custom skins still not working.
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FYI, the server expires in about a week, and I don't plan to extend it since it seems like everyone's busy with school.
Edited by Walliard, Sep 2 2009, 02:27 AM.
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...ummm

why

i play on it a lot when i do play

i've just gotten hammered with school x___x
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sigh

if it was high school I wouldnt be this depressed

but college is flippin' up EVERYTHING

even tf2
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Sep 2 2009, 02:45 AM
...ummm

why

i play on it a lot when i do play

i've just gotten hammered with school x___x
...because it costs him money?

It's not like there aren't other servers in the world, guys, geez. >_>
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If we end up playing enough throughout the school year to justify it, it's not like he just can't reopen it. As it stands now, I've certainly been busier, and it's not fair to Wally to have him spend 20 bucks a month on something we only use occasionally.
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I make iron women out of iron maidens

oh oko

i forgot it was 20 bucks a month

thought it was less for some reason
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For some reason, GameServers doesn't have a "Cancel Service" button that I can find, so they're nagging me about my overdue account while still keeping the server running.

So, uh... keep enjoying it while it lasts, I guess!
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HELLO EVERYBODY

imo all our admins should be banned for abuse
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Gigs
Sep 12 2009, 07:02 AM
imo all our admins should be banned for abuse
you're just bitter because of my badass "you are already dead" headshot
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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So, for those of you who missed the announcement or the game earlier, BIGfort is back! New IP is in the updated first post.

Suggestions on map rotation and plugins are welcome.
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I'm vaguely curious as to why it's in Chicago.
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help me im become weeaboo

decrease my ping
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BIG MAN
Feb 10 2010, 05:40 AM
I'm vaguely curious as to why it's in Chicago.
Fairly central location, at least as far as NA is concerned. GameServers lets you relocate for free up to 4 times a month, so we could always experiment.
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I don't think it's been updated in a while, so I'm not sure it still works, but if it does: we should try this.
Edited by BIG MAN, Feb 10 2010, 10:02 AM.
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Just tested it, and it's broken.

This plugin, however, works just fine.
Edited by Walliard, Feb 10 2010, 08:19 PM.
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Bears


So, what's people's opinions on the following things?

- First Blood
- CTF crit boost
- Random pellet spreads (for weapons like the shotguns, Scattergun and SMG)
- Random damage spread
- Random criticals
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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It's not directly relevant, but does the fixed pellet spreads option affect the minigun?

I have no strong opinion on those options.
Edited by BIG MAN, Feb 11 2010, 09:43 PM.
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I'm... not sure.

Anyway, imo we could do without First Blood and maybe the CTF crit-boost. I'd like damage/weapon spreads to be disabled, and am pretty ambivalent about random crits. BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
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Feb 11 2010, 09:40 PM
So, what's people's opinions on the following things?

- First Blood
- CTF crit boost
- Random pellet spreads (for weapons like the shotguns, Scattergun and SMG)
- Random damage spread
- Random criticals
Kiwi's already told you about his feelings on some, but he will post his feelings here anyway.

-First Blood
Remove or find a way to implement it so that it has a 10-25% chance of activating on the first kill
-CTF crit boost
Ehhh, don't really care
-Random pellet spread
This is how the weapons were intended, why change it?
-Random Damage spread
Keep it, or turn it on only for splash damage (if possible)
-Random Crits
Off only on Arena.
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need moar admin power

also, it is possible to have bots? not constantly, but when necessary!

no first blood, no ctf critboost

also critvote is a p cool guy
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i don't like critvote because people vote against crits ):
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Kiwi thinks we should add some custom maps to the server.

However they should be nominate only.
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bots for <12 humans on server would be nice imio
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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Shinguard
Feb 16 2010, 12:49 AM
Kiwi thinks we should add some custom maps to the server.

However they should be nominate only.
If you'll pay $5/month for the hosting site, sure.
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Walliard
Feb 16 2010, 02:00 AM
Shinguard
Feb 16 2010, 12:49 AM
Kiwi thinks we should add some custom maps to the server.

However they should be nominate only.
If you'll pay $5/month for the hosting site, sure.
I believe multiple people have volunteered to do such a thing.
Edited by BIG MAN, Feb 16 2010, 02:29 AM.
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Walliard
Feb 16 2010, 02:00 AM
Shinguard
Feb 16 2010, 12:49 AM
Kiwi thinks we should add some custom maps to the server.

However they should be nominate only.
If you'll pay $5/month for the hosting site, sure.
Not fastdownload, just having some on the server and we can download them before hand, hence nominate only. The maps are starting to wear a little thin.
Edited by Sudsan, Feb 16 2010, 03:27 AM.
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I hate to sound like a douche here, but really, we've played enough Badwater and Steel. If we're going to keep playing on them over everything else, I'm not paying for the server.
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Brojack Cubro
Feb 16 2010, 11:05 PM
I hate to sound like a douche here, but really, we've played enough Badwater and Steel. If we're going to keep playing on them over everything else, I'm not paying for the server.
i agree


with the amount we play badwater and steel we might as well turn off rtv and go straight map rotation
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Feb 16 2010, 11:37 PM
Brojack Cubro
Feb 16 2010, 11:05 PM
I hate to sound like a douche here, but really, we've played enough Badwater and Steel. If we're going to keep playing on them over everything else, I'm not paying for the server.
i agree


with the amount we play badwater and steel we might as well turn off rtv and go straight map rotation
Noted.

I have added Junction, Hydro, Hoodoo, and 2fort to the rotation.
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Told you it would turn into a 24/7 2fort server.
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In all seriousness, this is the rotation after some tweaks just now:

cp_gravelpit
koth_viaduct
cp_yukon_final
ctf_doublecross
cp_dustbowl
koth_harvest_final
cp_granary
pl_badwater

Keeping badwater because it won a majority vote earlier, but I'm open to suggestions. I'm hoping to aim for around 10 maps.
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Add them all, remove them temporarily if we play one too much. The issue we had was not enough maps.
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turbine is a pretty okay guy imo
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Feb 17 2010, 01:11 AM
Add them all, remove them temporarily if we play one too much. The issue we had was not enough maps.
I agree with this sentiment.
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20-25 minutes per map, and Kiwi has a good idea, but I'd remove Junction and Egypt just because they're so bad.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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Okay, exceptions for 2fort and Egypt are merited.

I've never played Junction, so I have no idea what it's like!
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Bears


2fort gets too much flak. Try it with 5-8 people per team sometime.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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I'm scarred for life. If I see its walls again I will be forced to disembowel myself.
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I make iron women out of iron maidens

i like egypt, it's a solid CP map

junction is ehhh

2fort i just play failsniper and it's fun :D
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Is also great
And would suffice."

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2fort Highlander would be fun. Maybe I'll set that to be automatic when it comes on.
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When the stars begin to flicker out and the long heat death of the universe begins, I will be the last to go - because dying is too mainstream.
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Bears


Speaking of, bots when we have less than say 10 players?
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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I'll look into the possibility of a plugin for that.

In other news, anyone who wishes to donate can do so here: http://www.gameservers.com/clanpay/?clanid=2ddac69522ad222ff91ca0a4db1e18dc
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What's wrong with loads of maps? More variety the better, says I!

(Just put $10 into the tin.)
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Wait a second. It said the balance was -$10; now it says it's -$20.

What did you do?
Edited by BIG MAN, Feb 17 2010, 05:14 AM.
(10:26:04 PM) Simon: Pidgey is down
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-$20 owed, so $20 credited.
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Is it possible to make it so that it could also switch maps based on rounds?

Like for example, on Steel, have it 4 rounds total so both teams get two shots at offense and defense. Or have it use both time and rounds and switch whenever one of them is hit.
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Every map has its own .cfg file, so I can easily change round parameters based on map.
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a server i go to has max 2 rounds

seems to work well, minimizing steamroll and boredom
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a server i go to has max 2 rounds

seems to work well, minimizing steamroll and boredom
Kiwi finds those lame, because some maps (Dustbowl), it's long enough even if a steamroll. Though for some maps like say Badlands where a round can be over due to scout rush in maybe a minute, it doesn't work as well.
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Kiwi and I think that this would be good:

Map type - time limit/max rounds
Arena - 15/unlimited
A/D CP - 25/2
5-point CP - 15 or 20/3
CTF - 20/2
KotH - 15/unlimited
PL - 25/2
PLR - 20/1

Also, I've changed my mind on the maps issue somewhat - we should give each map some chance. IMO, starting like... Thursday or Friday, change the rotation to include every official map, and maybe disable RTV (or institute an arena-y/n vote), and give this setup 4-7 days. If Wally wants, he could give me FTP or whatever access to set this stuff up, but if you don't want to Walls, I'm perfectly fine with that.
Edited by Bears, Feb 17 2010, 05:58 PM.
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[14:49] Tuscan Calamari:[14:49] Tuscan Calamari: 25 minutes/3 rounds for attack/defend maps
15 or 20 minutes/2 rounds for non-a/d maps
15 minutes/unlimited rounds for koth/arena maps
[14:49] Tuscan Calamari: What does kiwi think?
[14:49] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Wait
[14:49] Tuscan Calamari: ~~~
[14:49] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: 3 rounds for attack and defend?
[14:49] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Does that mean each team gets 3 goes at defense and offense?
[14:49] Tuscan Calamari: No
[14:50] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Kiwi's a bit skeptic about it...
[14:50] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Kiwi loves defense so on these maps he'd hate to have to be on Blu the first round
[14:50] Tuscan Calamari: It means that the first RED team gets two shots to defend, 1 to attack and the BLU team gets 1 shot to defend and 2 shots to attack
[14:50] Tuscan Calamari: We could reduce it to 2 maybe I guess
[14:50] Tuscan Calamari: I think the times per map are fine though!
[14:51] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: 2 rounds for A/D maps, 3 for non a/d maps
[14:51] Tuscan Calamari: Okay!
[14:51] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: So a scout rush doesn't mean half the map's rounds are already gone
[14:51] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Otherwise, pretty good
[14:52] Tuscan Calamari: 15 minutes may be a bit too little for well or turbine or something...
[14:52] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: You didn't list CTF maps did you?
[14:52] Tuscan Calamari: CTF maps would be 3 rounds/15-20 minutes
[14:52] Tuscan Calamari: same for Hydro maps if they existed.
[14:52] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Reduce it to 2 rounds, Kiwi thinks
[14:53] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: It won't be that big of an issue since CTF maps are usually relatively long rounds
[14:53] Tuscan Calamari: Okay!
[14:53] Tuscan Calamari: What does Kiwi think should be for PLR?
[14:53] Tuscan Calamari: Same as CTF?
[14:53] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Yeah
[14:53] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Actually
[14:53] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: How long is the average round of PLR?
[14:53] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: That stuff, at least to Kiwi, seems to take longer then CTF
[14:54] Tuscan Calamari: One moment
[14:54] Tuscan Calamari: I will check~
[14:54] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Pipeline, Kiwi would set it to one round, but that's his personal experience
[14:54] Tuscan Calamari: More than not-2fort CTFs
[14:54] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Hmmm
[14:55] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: 20 minutes or two rounds, which ever comes first then.
[14:55] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: The second area of pipeline tends to take an eternity
[14:56] Tuscan Calamari: 2fort: 38 mins (but most of those servers are 32 man or strange things)
Pieline: 28
Turbine: 26
Well: 18
Sawmill: 16
[14:56] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Set it to just one round then, in Kiwi's opinion
[14:57] Tuscan Calamari: Okay!
[14:57] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: Kiwi thinks he might c&p this into the server discussion
[14:57] Candice the Apocalypse Tank: So that people see what thought went into this.
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Okay, I came up with a map rotation that utilizes almost all of the stock non-Arena maps (I hope no one loves Hydro too much). I tried to go 5-point CP/KotH -> Payload -> CTF -> Attack/Defend CP so the gameplay wouldn't get stagnant, but I ran out of maps for a few maptypes and the formula didn't stick for the entire rotation, but here goes:

cp_well
pl_goldrush
ctf_turbine
cp_dustbowl

koth_harvest
pl_badwater
ctf_2fort
cp_junction

cp_badlands
pl_hoodoo
ctf_sawmill
cp_gravelpit

koth_nucleus
cp_gorge
ctf_doublecross
cp_steel

cp_granary
ctf_well
cp_egypt
koth_sawmill

cp_fastlane
plr_pipeline
cp_gorge
koth_viaduct


Thoughts?

Changed up a bit as per Kiwi's request.
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You forgot Yukon, but otherwise it seems like a good list.

Are those round times taking into account the fact that it ends whenever there's <5 minutes left? With KoTH's short orund time, we could easily end up with a map lasting 10 minutes, which is way too short, especially for someone who takes 2-3 minutes to load a map.
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Oh, I did forget that, and I take a while to load games too. Anyway, we might want to increase KotH times for that, but I dunno about attack/defense or Payload, since the time limits tend to be pretty long and possibly even make the map last longer than 25 or whatever.
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Could you reduce the amount of time required for a round switch so that instead of 5 minutes we get a switch at 3?

And is there an admin command to switch what the next map will be?
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Could you reduce the amount of time required for a round switch so that instead of 5 minutes we get a switch at 3?

And is there an admin command to switch what the next map will be?
a) I don't think so, but I could add 2 minutes to the time for the same effect.

b) sm_setnextmap mapname in console, or !setnextmap mapname in chat.
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Okay, everything should be set up, but I'm not sure if some of the custom configs will work.
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Well, we shouldn't need custom maps for a bit. Though it's still something that should be looked into.
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2fort works really well with 1-per-class and like 6 people per team.
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2fort works really well with JeffEngy in the enemy intel room guarded by a Heavy.
~~~

EDIT: Aah, this new avatar is disorienting. I'm used to seeing a BIG MAN when I post!
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don't change my posts you maggot
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
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what are you talking about

your post is right there, just as you posted it!
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
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2fort works really well with JeffEngy in the enemy intel room guarded by a Heavy.
~~~
I only do that for lulz, really. With six people and my skills as Scout, I could probably grab their intel 2-3 times in the time it takes me to set up. Although now I'm thinking of doing my old idea of putting the teleporter entrance in the enemy intel and the exit in ours for even more lulz.
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2fort works really well with JeffEngy in the enemy intel room guarded by a Heavy.
~~~
I only do that for lulz, really. With six people and my skills as Scout, I could probably grab their intel 2-3 times in the time it takes me to set up. Although now I'm thinking of doing my old idea of putting the teleporter entrance in the enemy intel and the exit in ours for even more lulz.
Yes, but capturing the intel is a) boring and b) easy. You need more creative things to keep entertained on a CTF map!
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Oh, also - other admins should get the ability to start a vote scramble/scramble the teams on their own.
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2fort works really well with JeffEngy in the enemy intel room guarded by a Heavy.
~~~
I only do that for lulz, really. With six people and my skills as Scout, I could probably grab their intel 2-3 times in the time it takes me to set up. Although now I'm thinking of doing my old idea of putting the teleporter entrance in the enemy intel and the exit in ours for even more lulz.
but you can't take intel through a teleporter
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How do you do a team scramble?
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I could swear I tried that.
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There should be a new option on the sm_admin menu.
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I don't see any new options.
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So Kiwi is thinking we should have another TF2 game like we did last week at the same time.

Just this time passworded.
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keep those goddamn communists out

this is a good idea for scheduled games!

though i would say that it might be a good idea to put an announcement on our front page thing that you see when you join the server

"scheduled Big Game for friday night 8 PM EST, will be temporarily password protected"

We have some folks that play on BIGfort pretty regularly who aren't BIGs as such and I think they should get a chance to inquire about it if they want.
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keep those goddamn communists out

this is a good idea for scheduled games!

though i would say that it might be a good idea to put an announcement on our front page thing that you see when you join the server

"scheduled Big Game for friday night 8 PM EST, will be temporarily password protected"

We have some folks that play on BIGfort pretty regularly who aren't BIGs as such and I think they should get a chance to inquire about it if they want.
You'd have to get Wally to take care of that (as well as some other things). And it doesn't seem like it'd be a huge deal anyway.
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Wally:

You broke 2fort somehow. Trying to join on either of the computers I have TF2 installed on gets me a message saying my version of the map varies from the one on the server, and when I changed the map through console fiddling it let me join.
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Wally:

You broke 2fort somehow. Trying to join on either of the computers I have TF2 installed on gets me a message saying my version of the map varies from the one on the server, and when I changed the map through console fiddling it let me join.
It's because it hasn't been updated.

2fort and double cross were updated in the last update.
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Wally:

You broke 2fort somehow. Trying to join on either of the computers I have TF2 installed on gets me a message saying my version of the map varies from the one on the server, and when I changed the map through console fiddling it let me join.
It's because it hasn't been updated.

2fort and double cross were updated in the last update.
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I thought I took care of it already. Oh well, it's done now.
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Also, other admins can password-protect the server now.
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Hmm, idea - put a link to the Steam group on the MOTD. That way, people who come around regularly can join our Steam group and get announcements re: password protecting of the server, when we're starting a match, etc. There is the issue of people not noticing it, but that's not something we can really change.
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but then our group will turn into a public group

this can't end well
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