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Build a Hector Hard Mode team!
Topic Started: Jul 18 2010, 08:15 PM (1,965 Views)
Tookie
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Pretend I put something witty here.

Yes.

So I was sat around thinking about playing HHM. I then realised that I'd kinda used the FE7 cast to death. This lead me back to running my CKahMB characters (+Deln/Eloise) through FE7 and finding it more fun when Relus "lets die all the time it'll be fun" Thersiss stopped dying. And then I thought "Okay but what about these builds for characters that actually do well on FEABL".

And then I POSTED THIS TOPIC.

(It's not a full hack, this can and will be done! ;>_>)

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Guidelines:

1. You can replace any character, but if you all pile in the lategame slots you are terrible people.
2. Using FEABL bases and promo gains, and if the people taking the classes all agree to it I'll also switch to the caps/promo gains of the alternative (Hero getting Champion stuff, Pallies getting the Crusader stuff etc). Weapon selections may be adopted but really how many people focus characters on their secondaries anyway *hides Myke w/Rex Hasta*
3. 300% growths and 16 free points for the level 1 unpromoted. Units above 1/0 get 3 extra points for every level above 1/0. Prepromotes get 73 free points on top of class bases and their promotion gains, plus three extra for every level past 20/1, but only 270% growths. The Lord replacements get 330% growths.
3a. Lords can have whatever class' stats they want until further notice. If the Eliwood and Lyn replacements don't take sword classes, you can also make replacements for Rapier/Durandal and Mani Katti/Sol Katti as long as they stay along the same general power level. >_>
4. First seven non-Lord slots will get priority for the free Endgame positions unless you're all terrible people to me. I would prefer to be able to use all the S Rank weapons in some way though. >_>
5. I'm not aiming for S Rank here because I haven't even played through HHM normally yet. If I get one I'll take it though. =\
6. Depending on which slots are taken I may also do LHM.
7. You can post more than one character, but state which one you'd prefer to get Endgame priority if you do. (I'll still use your others if I don't get enough interest).
8. The following format would be lovely;

Name:
Replacing:
Level:
Class:
Affinity:

Stats (in the format Base + Frees + Growth):
HP:
Str/Mag:
Skill:
Speed:
Luck:
Def:
Res:
Con:

9. Try and stay close to the level of the character you're replacing, unless the original level was silly. (RATH I AM LOOKING AT YOU >_>)

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Endgame Priority:

1. "Hector"- Tookie [Brigand -> Berserker stats] (Tookie)
2. "Lyn"
3. "Eliwood"
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

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Extras who will probably be useful:

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Stats and fine china plates

Tookie
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This topic is now over. It can be mathematically proved that there is no adequate comeback to that simple fact.


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What's the password?

Name: Dizzy
Replacing: Guy
Level: 2
Class: Mercenary
Affinity: Light

Stats:
HP: 22 + 100%
Str: 10 + 25%
Skl: 11 + 15%
Spd: 9 + 30%
Lck: 7 + 120%
Def: 4 + 10%
Res: 0 + 0%
Con: 10

do what you will with him
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Or, in an incredibly crazy turn of events, Chrono is really the GF, and he got ike lynched to throw suspicioun off of him. That's probably really unlikely though
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

ahaha

10 starting str with 55% growth

That's dumb (He averages 30.35 Str not considering promo gains)
Edited by Soul, Jul 18 2010, 08:27 PM.
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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What's the password?

Soul
Jul 18 2010, 08:27 PM
ahaha

10 starting str with 55% growth

That's dumb (He averages 30.35 Str not considering promo gains)
which reminds me i meant to give him more defense

[in any case, i don't base characters on SUPER MIN/MAX, the only reason i took his res growth is MORE STUPID LUCK YEAAAAAAAAAH]
Edited by Chrono, Jul 18 2010, 08:29 PM.
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Or, in an incredibly crazy turn of events, Chrono is really the GF, and he got ike lynched to throw suspicioun off of him. That's probably really unlikely though
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Speaking of luck, that average is at 36.6

<.<
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You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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tookie RNG
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Or, in an incredibly crazy turn of events, Chrono is really the GF, and he got ike lynched to throw suspicioun off of him. That's probably really unlikely though
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... uh-huh.

"So I was sat around thinking about playing HHM. I then realised that I'd kinda used the FE7 cast to death."

Code for you realised that you're too much of a wuss to play HHM with the normal cast and have to use better ones.
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Pretend I put something witty here.

Serene Steelzard
Jul 18 2010, 08:51 PM
"So I was sat around thinking about playing HHM. I then realised that I'd kinda used the FE7 cast to death."

Code for you realised that you're too much of a wuss to play HHM with the normal cast and have to use better ones.
Except with my RNG they probably won't end up better. =\
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I'm...HUNGRY!

Name: Byron
Replacing: Hawkeye
Level: xx/5
Class: Warrior
Affinity: Thunder

Stats (Base + Promo + Free ; growths)
HP: 24 +4 +20 ; 70%
Str/Mag: 5 +4 +11 ; 45%
Skill: 2 +1 +13 ; 45%
Speed: 4 +1 +9 ; 30%
Luck: 0 +0 +8 ; 10%
Def: 2 +1 +13 ; 35%
Res: 0 +0 +11 ; 35%
Con: 13 +2

Which gives the following:

HP: 48 +70%
Str: 20 +45%
Skl: 16 +45%
Spd: 14 +30%
Luck: 8 +10%
Def: 16 +35%
Res: 11 +35%
Con: 15

For the math, I assumed that we didn't get an extra three free promo points. 73 points plus 4 extra levels gave 85 total points.
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Man I cant believe Im this bored O.o

Name: Evelyn
Replacing: Marcus
Level: xx/1
Class: Sage(F)
Affinity: Light

Stats (in the format Base + Frees + Promo + Growth):
HP: 20+20+4; 10%
Str/Mag: 1+13+3; 50%
Skill: 2+7+1; 60%
Speed: 3+10+2 ;40%
Luck: 0+8; 50%
Def: 3+5; 35%
Res: 3+3+2; 25%
Con: 5+7+1(I am a terrible person)

For...

HP: 44+10%
Str/Mag: 17+50%
Skill: 10+60%
Speed: 15+40%
Luck: 8+50%
Def: 8+ 35%
Res: 8+ 25%
Con: 13

...actually thats a little overkill she'll have to stew for a bit either way @_@

Edited by Endgame, Jul 19 2010, 03:22 AM.
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HiMAT Laharl!

Silly Tookie, you thought this'd be easier than HHM?
EDIT: aww, you took Hector. Oh well, the other lords are still mission-critical on death.

Name: Damocles
Replacing: Oh...Eliwood.
Level: 1/0
Class: Lord, Squire-spec
Affinity: ...say, Ice, for maximum useless.

Stats
HP: 22 + 0 + 4 + 0%
Str: 5 + 0 + 2 + 0%
Skl 5 + 0 + 2 + 255%
Spd 7 + 0 + 1 + 0%
Luc 0 + 0 + 0 + 75%
Def 5 + 0 + 3 + 0%
Res 0 + 0 + 0 + 0%
Con 7 + 16 + 1

I'm sure you can do the math yourself. It's not like adding zeroes is hard. Somebody else should also nerf Matthew: HHM 1 is almost impossible without a decent one.

No backing out now!
Edited by Fallen Morning Flare, Jul 19 2010, 06:07 AM.

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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

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Pretend I put something witty here.

Wouldn't be the first time I've taken underlevelled Lords into Endgame. :/
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Oh man, I should've thought of that

In fact, I'll do it right now

Name: BIG
Replacing: Oswin
Level: 9/0
Class: Knight
Affinity: Wind

Stats
HP: 21 + 0 + 5%
Str: 5 + 0 + 5%
Skl 2 + 0 + 20%
Spd 0 + 0 + 5%
Luc 0 + 28 +255%
Def 9 + 0 + 5%
Res 0 + 0 + 5%
Con 13 + 12

Look on the bright side! At least you'll have a max luck knight at level 10! (On a side note, imagining BIG as Oswin is flippin' hilarious)
Edited by Soul, Jul 19 2010, 01:46 PM.
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You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

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[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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What's the password?

amazing idea

i will now break my stats


(not as badly as you lot have)
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Or, in an incredibly crazy turn of events, Chrono is really the GF, and he got ike lynched to throw suspicioun off of him. That's probably really unlikely though
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What's the password?

also


Name: Anton
Replacing: Matthew
Level: 1
Class: Soldier [WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW] (To try and be nice, i will give him 500% growths)
Affinity: Anima

Stats:
HP: 25 + 100%
Str: 12 + 130%
Skl: 3 + 70%
Spd: 5 + 80%
Luck: 0 + 0% (WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW)
Def: 4 + 100%
Res: 0 + 20%
Con: 14
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Or, in an incredibly crazy turn of events, Chrono is really the GF, and he got ike lynched to throw suspicioun off of him. That's probably really unlikely though
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

Should've given him 0% Str growth
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RP Only: Sarah

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Tales of The Abyss, FEABL Style, fun stuff!

Quote:
 
Flare's clone says (5:22 PM):
You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

Quote:
 
[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Soul
Jul 19 2010, 02:15 PM
Should've given him 0% Str growth
i am not completely evil
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Or, in an incredibly crazy turn of events, Chrono is really the GF, and he got ike lynched to throw suspicioun off of him. That's probably really unlikely though
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OH MY PORK!

*loves this topic*
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I'm...HUNGRY!

Name: Recens
Replacing: Lyn
Level: 5
Class: Lord (same as Lyn)
Affinity: Light

Stats
HP: 20 +3 ; 10%
Str/Mag: 4 +2 ; 100%
Skill: 7 +2 ; 10%
Speed: 9 +2 ; 5%
Luck: 0 +8 ; 5%
Def: 2 +3 ; 100%
Res: 0 +3 ; 100%
Con: 5 +5

Giving us this:

HP: 23 +10%
Str: 6 +100%
Skl: 9 +10%
Spd: 11 +5%
Luck: 8 +5%
Def: 5 +100%
Res: 3 +100%
Con: 10

IMO, you should make a patch of this and give it to some poor unsuspecting sap. Recens looks like a pretty normal Lyn if you ignore the growths.
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Pretend I put something witty here.

i love how quickly this took the expected leap from "devise something fun for tookie to run through hhm with" to "be a dick to tookie"

i kinda like the idea of throwing it at someone who isn't me though >_>

in retrospect i should've just shut up and ran my lot through hhm, my rng is enough of a big red fire truck to make that pretty hellish =\
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I'm...HUNGRY!

To be fair, Recens will be pretty tough if you take advantage of the pirates after getting Lyn back.
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HiMAT Laharl!

To be fair, with at least 5% growths in every category, it is just on the verge of possibility to reset for 6-ups and just solo the game with "Lyn".

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