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Cap revisions.
Topic Started: Jul 27 2010, 05:41 PM (556 Views)
Seth
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We've gone through the various classes and proposed some changes to their caps. Here's what we've come up with:

(Male/Female)

Berserker
30/29
26/26
28/29
22/21
21/22

Skyknight
28/27
25/25
29/30
22/21
24/25

Wizard
26/27
26/26
24/24
24/22
26/27

Paladin
26/24
26/27
26/27
25/24
25/26

Crusader
24/22
28/28
28/29
25/24
23/25

Assassin
22/22
30/30
30/30
22/22
22/22

Rogue
23/22
28/29
29/29
23/22
24/25

Heretic
25/25
29/29
27/27
22/21
27/28

Valkyrie
27/26
25/26
24/25
26/24
27/28

Mystic Knight
27/28
27/26
26/26
23/21
26/28


(Guys, I wasn't sure if we finalized anything with Champions or the Wyvern classes, so I didn't list them.)
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You missed some:

New Templar caps: 22/23, 27/26, 30/30, 21/20, 24/25

New Bishop caps: 25/25, 26/26, 24/26, 25/23, 30/30

New Falcoknight caps: 25/24, 25/25, 27/28, 24/23, 29/30
Edited by Soul, Jul 27 2010, 06:11 PM.
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And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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ha ha ha

If it wasn't clear, there's a very good reason as to why we're posting this here and not just applying them.

This topic is worthy of everyone's feedback, considering its potential for contraversy
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Soul
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

It's controversy >_>

Anyway, I think most everyone was fine with the Champion revision as well so I'll post them here.

Champion
24/23
26/26
25/26
28/27
24/25

Re: Wyverns

The reason we don't have anything for them is because it was debated to death and we couldn't agree with anything. So if anyone has any ideas on improved wyvern caps, feel free (since some people seem to think they're underpowered. I'm not one of them for the record despite me being the one that posted the first revision for them.)

Oh and if you're paying attention, the two classes that get nerfed are the Templar and Berserker while a few classes received a nerf in one stat to compensate for a boost in another stat.

btw, I STILL think Barons should get +1 spd

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Shrimp came up with a solution for post cap implementation for characters that have already capped a stat to be adjusted but he never got around to posting it so those of you that kept past records of your characters stat gains will finally get a use for them. The rest of you... sucks to be you.
Edited by Soul, Jul 28 2010, 06:14 AM.
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Flare's clone says (5:22 PM):
You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

Quote:
 
[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Soul
Jul 27 2010, 06:16 PM
btw, I STILL think Barons should get +1 spd
I see no harm in this.
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yeah

For what it's worth, it might be clearer if you labelled which stat is which in these lists. <_<
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Zap
Jul 28 2010, 12:05 AM
For what it's worth, it might be clearer if you labelled which stat is which in these lists. <_<
also if you listed the original caps because i am too lazy to go through the list and check every single one
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Me: Also you could tell us what we're supposed to be controversing about.
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I'm...HUNGRY!

Also, those were Champions Soul, not Crusaders.
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The originals.
Edited by Jmyster, Jul 28 2010, 01:29 AM.
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

@ Seth: I get them mixed up somewhat often, thanks for pointing that out *fixes*

@ Zap: Listed Str/Skl/Spd/Def/Res. Like they are in the stat caps section.

@ Chrono: There you go <_<;;

@ Lewa: We're looking for feedback on the caps themselves. Basically, it's a case of "This is an awesome idea, let's do it" or "nonono that is terrible. I object." Or something like that

(Note: If you object to a change, I expect a good reason why. I might come up with an alternate version if the reason is good enough)

Also if you feel any classes are getting gipped by these changes or whatever, feel free to put forth some suggestions as well.
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Flare's clone says (5:22 PM):
You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

Quote:
 
[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Pretend I put something witty here.

Part of me is screaming "augh noooo why would you give a mono-Light class a 23 Mag cap at maximum, even Swordmasters have better Str caps with the crit boost", but then I remember the range thing and how Res used to be (might still be; haven't paid much attention) the dump stat a lot of the time.

(Why do all the unpromoted units have the same 60/20/20/20/30/20/20 cap spread? Never made any sense to me in the games, can we fix that as well? =\)

And I always kept levelup histories because I thought it was mandatory. >>
Edited by Tookie, Jul 28 2010, 06:56 AM.
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This topic is now over. It can be mathematically proved that there is no adequate comeback to that simple fact.


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Ooh, my head is spinning...

That's honestly too much work and rather pointless to try to fix anyway.

Plus, it prevents people from breaking their level 1 stats worse than they're already breaking them. *hides Marco under rug*
Edited by Soul, Jul 28 2010, 07:08 AM.
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Flare's clone says (5:22 PM):
You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

Quote:
 
[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Pretend I put something witty here.

Soul
Jul 28 2010, 07:08 AM
Plus, it prevents people from breaking their level 1 stats worse than they're already breaking them.
You say this like it's some kind of bad thing. =\
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This topic is now over. It can be mathematically proved that there is no adequate comeback to that simple fact.


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yeah

Soul
Jul 28 2010, 06:18 AM
@ Zap: Listed Str/Skl/Spd/Def/Res. Like they are in the stat caps section.
Why is that @ me? I was trying to make a helpful suggestion, not demand something for my own satisfaction.
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Jul 28 2010, 10:06 AM
Soul
Jul 28 2010, 06:18 AM
@ Zap: Listed Str/Skl/Spd/Def/Res. Like they are in the stat caps section.
Why is that @ me? I was trying to make a helpful suggestion, not demand something for my own satisfaction.
Because you were the one specifically asking for them.

d'uh
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You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

Quote:
 
[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Seth
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I'm...HUNGRY!

Given that this topic has gone two weeks without discussion and no one really seems too opposed to the changes, can we go ahead and pass this?
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Might as well. People have more than enough time to debate/consider it. Consider today the last call.
Edited by Jmyster, Aug 11 2010, 03:55 PM.
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Oh damn, I just realized that lowering the Heretic's Mag cap to 25 would mean that Emysia (retroactively) capped a stat. This simply cannot be allowed.
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Pretend I put something witty here.

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Aug 13 2010, 05:33 AM
Oh damn, I just realized that lowering the Heretic's Mag cap to 25 would mean that Emysia (retroactively) capped a stat. This simply cannot be allowed.
what the cluck yes it can >:E
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SILENCE HEATHEN
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Pretend I put something witty here.

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SILENCE HEATHEN
i believe the word you are looking for there is "heretic"

:D

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(incidentally and more on-topic, what happens to characters who's current stats are higher than the new caps? [eg Lilane's Mag])
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This topic is now over. It can be mathematically proved that there is no adequate comeback to that simple fact.


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We're working on that. I think we're pretty much finished, but Shrimp and Soul haven't been on much lately, and it was mainly Shrimp's idea.
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Ooh, my head is spinning...

You mean I haven't been on at all

You definitely mean I haven't been on at all

(Unless you've been seeing some phantom or something)

Anyway I give my admin approval
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Flare's clone says (5:22 PM):
You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

Quote:
 
[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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Aug 16 2010, 12:31 PM
You mean I haven't been on at all

You definitely mean I haven't been on at all

(Unless you've been seeing some phantom or something)

Anyway I give my admin approval
The combination of Shrimp and Soul (known henceforth as "Shroul") hasn't been on much lately. Shrimp has, you haven't, but combined you have.

:P
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Aug 16 2010, 07:24 PM
Soul
Aug 16 2010, 12:31 PM
You mean I haven't been on at all

You definitely mean I haven't been on at all

(Unless you've been seeing some phantom or something)

Anyway I give my admin approval
The combination of Shrimp and Soul (known henceforth as "Shroul") hasn't been on much lately. Shrimp has, you haven't, but combined you have.

:P
wut
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You know, the first time I scrolled over your MSN icon fast, I thought it was Wodan with a top hat.

Quote:
 
[00:55] Apejack Cuba: someone sig that

Medi in diplomacy
 
And why should I trust your ability? You have very consistently been losing ground to the Germans, regardless of whether I've been on your side or not. What you're telling me is that I have a dilemma: either I can fight you and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany, or I can fight Germany and see you lose all of your SCs to Germany.
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