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| ITT Tookie sucks at FE9.; and Rhys is made of paper but thats irrelevant | |
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| Tookie | Aug 8 2010, 03:13 PM Post #1 |
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Somewhat. I picked up FE9 again because I was bored, couldn't think of anything to write and wanted to try and figure out why I hated it so much- most likely candidates being the game being a bit sluggish and the worst cases of the RNG being out to get me in the history of FE So I decide to go for Hard mode because I'm not a complete pansy and... it's not as hard as I remember it being, and the music is better than I remember it being. The graphics are absolute ass and the game moves as slowly as I remember it, but if the RNG doesn't completely dick me over the speed shouldn't bother me too much because I won't be playing two thirds of the game twice due to random bullshit criticals right at the end of every chapter. also have a list of my Able Body Labor 200ups because frankly they're always the most entertaining parts of me trying to play games --- Able Body Labor 200ups causing death 1. Chapter 7, played too slowly to start with and then tried to rush the reinforcing Thieves before they stole anything, inadvertantly left Rhys open and overestimated his ability to dodge. Discovered that the L button on my good GC controller is smurfed her smurf until she smurfed all over me as I tried to soft reset. 2. Chapter 8. Rhys gets Javelin'd by Lance Knights for trying to heal Titania. 3. Gambling is a bad idea. Overextending with Ike is a very bad idea. Getting a character killed by the last attack the enemy could possibly make in a timed chapter is the RNG's way of reminding me not to be a colossal retard. 4 and 5. Hilarious failures involving retardedness and partner AI (hint; no tookie you can't change their orders once ike's moved) cost me Mist. Compulsive need to keep everyone alive and the fact I'd like to have some support on hand for the BK mean that's two more fails. 6. Kieran can take a shot from Chapter 11 boss. Kieran cannot then take a hit from another enemy. 7. Oscar is not to accompany the Zihark recruiter for extra manpower near the northern house when the knights at the top of the map start moving. He is to instead accompany Titania in securing the middle path where there is the most resistance, as opposed to using Kieran. 8. I couldn't remember where Makalov appeared, and the mad dash to get Marcia to him before he got skewered by Gatrie got her killed. Should send a larger group to the side path to make sure Marcia doesn't get killed next time. =\ 9. Chapter 17, Part 3. Not quite sure why I decided to start playing offensively on a defense chapter- we'll go with "because I'm retarded". Kieran gets mobbed by mages. Kieran deaths: 3 Rhys deaths: 2 Mist deaths: 2 Marcia deaths: 1 Ike deaths: 1 --- Other Able Body Labor 200ups 1. Chapter 8 gets played so slowly and defensively that I don't clear out enough people to recruit Ilyana. Redo because I'm not throwing a mage away with this many soldiers and knights around. >_> 2. Multiple instances of getting the first turn of Chapter 13 wrong. --- more on this trainwreck as it progresses Edited by Tookie, Aug 11 2010, 03:03 PM.
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| Seth | Aug 8 2010, 03:24 PM Post #2 |
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I'm...HUNGRY!
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FE9 HM is easier than FE10 NM, except for maybe the very last chapter...but that's to be expected, and FE10's final chapter is still arguably harder. |
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| iammax | Aug 8 2010, 03:28 PM Post #3 |
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I am pretty sure that after the first few bits, FE10 is the easiest FE game. |
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| Bears | Aug 8 2010, 03:31 PM Post #4 |
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lolRhys |
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| Chrono | Aug 8 2010, 03:37 PM Post #5 |
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Hard/Maniac are fairly challenging, even for transferred GMs, but there's pretty much nothing stopping you once you hit Part IV. [incidentally, i disagree, FE4 is probably the easiest once you get through chapter 2] |
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| Seth | Aug 8 2010, 03:44 PM Post #6 |
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I'm...HUNGRY!
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FE10 Hard is pretty challenging even in Part 3. It's even moreso without transfer data. |
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| Tookie | Aug 8 2010, 04:10 PM Post #7 |
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2. Chapter 8. Rhys gets Javelin'd by Lance Knights for trying to heal Titania. I'm noticing a pattern here. (yes the sensible thing for me to do would have been to heal her and then move her to the end of the chokepoint so they couldn't get at him, shut up) EDIT: Speed 1. Chapter 8 gets played so slowly and defensively that I don't clear out enough people to recruit Ilyana. Redo because I'm not throwing a mage away with this many soldiers and knights around. >_> Edited by Tookie, Aug 8 2010, 04:34 PM.
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| Serene Steelzard | Aug 8 2010, 04:40 PM Post #8 |
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Sabre has been playing FE10 hard mode recently. Part 1 was really bad because the enemies have wtf stats and give out crap exp. You don't want to rely on the characters like the wolf queen or you'll screw yourself over later, but the slightest wrong move with a weaker character will get you killed. But now he's at the end of part 2, which hasn't given him very many problems at all yet. |
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| Seth | Aug 8 2010, 04:46 PM Post #9 |
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Part 2 is somewhat easier since you get Haar, but it's a lot harder to work your way toward Ludveck in the final chapter of that part. Still not too bad, though. Part 3 can deal out some nasty surprises in the 12-turn-limit nighttime mission, but otherwise it's only difficult if you go beyond what is expected of you...like trying to steal Lombroso's Energy Drops and then killing him. Seriously, the guy has lots of reinforcements every turn, and odds are high that none of your characters will be able to double him...and his accuracy with that Silver Poleax is sickening. |
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| Tookie | Aug 8 2010, 05:04 PM Post #10 |
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MOTHERFU-- 3. Gambling is a bad idea. Overextending with Ike is a very bad idea. Getting a character killed by the last attack the enemy could possibly make in a timed chapter is the RNG's way of reminding me not to be a colossal retard. THE MORE YOU KNOW also i should probably get back to fe8 hm but DAT BERSERK SPAM |
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| Seth | Aug 8 2010, 05:08 PM Post #11 |
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FEDS H5 is madness. I stopped playing when I got to the chapter when you have to charge across a long open field towards an enemy force comprised of long-range magic-users and wyvern riders, especially since there are six forts behind the fortress you have to capture and the enemy moves when they reinforce. |
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| Vicas | Aug 8 2010, 05:40 PM Post #12 |
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.
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I stopped hard5 in chapter 2 when I realized how dumb it was. Then stopped normal mode when I realized FEDS was completely terrible (I don't even remember what chapter that was, maybe 10). Also, agreeing with FE4 being the easiest after chapter 2. |
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| iammax | Aug 8 2010, 06:11 PM Post #13 |
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Oh well, I still haven't played pre-GBA. |
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| Tookie | Aug 8 2010, 06:27 PM Post #14 |
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4 and 5. Hilarious failures involving retardedness and partner AI (hint; no tookie you can't change their orders once ike's moved) cost me Mist. Compulsive need to keep everyone alive and the fact I'd like to have some support on hand for the BK mean that's two more fails. Then again, I did move too slowly (oh gee what a surprise) for the two villages, so maybe this'll work out. (also does anyone know if you still get lethe and mordecai if they retreat in chapter 9 >_>) EDIT: Unrelated; Mia 10/0: 23 HP, 11 Str, 9 Def Ike 13/0: 24 HP, 9 Str, 9 Def something is wrong here Edited by Tookie, Aug 8 2010, 07:48 PM.
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| Walliard | Aug 9 2010, 05:24 AM Post #15 |
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You don't need the L button to soft reset. |
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| Tookie | Aug 9 2010, 10:24 AM Post #16 |
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i have now realised that however 6. Kieran can take a shot from Chapter 11 boss. Kieran cannot then take a hit from another enemy. 7. Oscar is not to accompany the Zihark recruiter for extra manpower near the northern house when the knights at the top of the map start moving. He is to instead accompany Titania in securing the middle path where there is the most resistance. EDIT: Thanks to my cunning plan to not use Brom for Chapter 11 and instead use Mordecai to soften up the main group of enemies, I ended up burning up an entire Laguz Stone. However, there was much exp to be had. Chapter 12 was surprisingly easy. I even managed to get Rolf some levels. :O Mia can't reach the unpromo Str cap anymore (14 at 15/0, which is still more than Ike >_>), but since IIRC the female SM cap is so shit she'll probably reach that regardless. goddamn titania should not be at xx/6 by now i have got to stop overusing her D: Edited by Tookie, Aug 9 2010, 01:27 PM.
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| Chrono | Aug 9 2010, 04:42 PM Post #17 |
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Overusing Titania isn't the worst thing that can happen to you, really -- she'll hold her own even on hard mode, and bonus EXP makes it easier than usual to raise lowbies. Ike's strength screwup is the worst thing that can happen to you. |
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| SabreCut | Aug 9 2010, 04:56 PM Post #18 |
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Don't worry guys, I got a good price for selling you out
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That chapter is a pain even on normal, though it gets a lot easier when the reinforcements turn up. The main problem with FE10 HM is that the weapons triangle no longer does anything. Sometimes this helps out because it means Swordmasters don't always get taken out by lance users and so on, but it also means axe and lance users have terrible accuracy. Plus, as helpful as the change is, it helps out the enemy much more. EDIT: Also, Able Body Labor 200 those bowgun using bastards. Edited by SabreCut, Aug 9 2010, 05:03 PM.
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| Tookie | Aug 9 2010, 07:57 PM Post #19 |
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11 Str at 16/0. I have a problem, don't I? |
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| SabreCut | Aug 9 2010, 08:03 PM Post #20 |
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Don't worry guys, I got a good price for selling you out
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Average is 12.5. It's not too bad. |
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| Crimmy | Aug 9 2010, 08:03 PM Post #21 |
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If you intend to get Nasir, yes. |
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| Chrono | Aug 9 2010, 08:33 PM Post #22 |
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Advice for getting Nasir on hard mode: Don't. No seriously, don't bother. Neither he nor ena are significantly usefull for the chapters they appear in, and it's not worth the aggravation of taking on the black knight. |
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| Tookie | Aug 10 2010, 10:36 AM Post #23 |
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Chapter 13 was pretty easy once I'd gotten the first turn right (goddamn that thing is so easy to screw up), though once again I played very slowly and the ravens got away with the Occult and (iirc) a couple of statboosters. However. 8. I couldn't remember where Makalov appeared, and the mad dash to get Marcia to him before he got skewered by Gatrie got her killed. Should send a larger group to the side path to make sure Marcia doesn't get killed next time. =\ |
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| SabreCut | Aug 10 2010, 11:55 AM Post #24 |
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Wuss. It's not any harder than it is on normal mode. |
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| Seth | Aug 10 2010, 12:22 PM Post #25 |
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This. The reinforcements will still only attack Mist, and the chapter before that battle is pretty easy because by then your characters should be titans anyway. |
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| Chrono | Aug 10 2010, 12:46 PM Post #26 |
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It's not about being a wuss, it's about the fact it's entirely luck-based. And Nasir offers nothing Ena doesn't, especially on Hard, where there's no way in heck you'll even consider putting him against Ashnard. I have fought him with Strength, Speed, Def, Skill, and HP Capped Ike, with Aether, and lost because the bloody thing didn't activate once. Then I fought him again, and lost because he activated Luna at exactly the wrong time. Turn limits would have made it impossible to win the fight. And then I fought him again, and lost because time ran out after Aether STILL FAILED TO ACTIVATE. All three times, I had a godlike 20/18 Mist, with a magic sword, who was more than capable of annihilating the reinforcements and healing Ike. Ike also had the Knight Ring, so I could attack at close range and then move away. The only reason I put up with replaying the level over and over again was because it was normal mode, and it was easy -- I was setting up a transfer file for RD, so I was sadly imbalanced towards swords, it would have been impossible on hard. Edited by Chrono, Aug 10 2010, 12:48 PM.
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| Serene Steelzard | Aug 10 2010, 12:54 PM Post #27 |
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At least you didn't miss with Aether. -_- |
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| Tookie | Aug 10 2010, 01:23 PM Post #28 |
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I remember hearing somewhere that Parity works very well against the BK, but I don't really care to test that theory this run unless I have to because lolparity. ;>_> |
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Advice for getting Nasir: Put forth your best effort, and if you don't get him don't sweat it. I took down BK in hard mode thanks to trusty Aether activation. Do make an attempt though--winning that fight is SO satisfying.
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| SabreCut | Aug 10 2010, 05:19 PM Post #30 |
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It's entirely luck based on normal too. Therefore, it is not any harder on HM than on normal. |
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| Zap | Aug 10 2010, 07:33 PM Post #31 |
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This. Winning that fight feels epic, but it's not actually all that important. |
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| Tookie | Aug 10 2010, 10:27 PM Post #32 |
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whee got through chapter 14 with makalov in tow when i had the idea of just sending everyone in his direction and shielding marcia- i do not remember needing to do that the last time i played this >_> chapter 15 was also fairly easy- got most of the treasures, recruited stefan and i managed to keep about eight of them alive finally, some flippin' bexp only 480, but... eh, i should be able to put it to some use couple of people started lagging b/c Great Titania Rampage |
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| Serene Steelzard | Aug 10 2010, 10:46 PM Post #33 |
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All I felt was relief that aether hadn't missed again. |
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| Tookie | Aug 11 2010, 02:02 PM Post #34 |
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ffff i was doing so well and had managed to avoid flippin' up since ch14 D: 9. Chapter 17, Part 3. Not quite sure why I decided to start playing offensively on a defense chapter- we'll go with "because I'm retarded". Kieran gets mobbed by mages. --- Other than that, 16 and the first two stages of 17 went well. Characters are getting levels, the Great Titania Rampage hasn't been as prevalent, and I have promoted characters now! :D (Mia and Soren) i also do not recall 17 str being normal for a 20/3 mia >_> |
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| Seth | Aug 11 2010, 03:29 PM Post #35 |
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Your Mia is raep. I would secks her. |
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| Chrono | Aug 11 2010, 06:55 PM Post #36 |
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wait there are people who don't play offensively on defense chapters best defense... |
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| Tookie | Aug 11 2010, 07:00 PM Post #37 |
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I generally play defense chapters defensively, but I think this topic has taught us that I play far too defensively and carelessly in general. >_> |
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| Serene Steelzard | Aug 11 2010, 09:25 PM Post #38 |
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I play defensively on defense chapters. I only turn offensive when the odds are in my favour, and I know my characters aren't going to get mobbed and killed. |
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| Walliard | Aug 11 2010, 09:31 PM Post #39 |
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| Tookie | Aug 11 2010, 09:53 PM Post #40 |
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oh gods i remember that >_< |
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| Chrono | Aug 11 2010, 09:56 PM Post #41 |
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that was a horrific meatgrinder more than anything |
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| Crimmy | Aug 11 2010, 10:01 PM Post #42 |
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| Bears | Aug 11 2010, 10:27 PM Post #43 |
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p. much this. |
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