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ETF2L Highlander Community Challenge
Topic Started: Aug 11 2010, 02:06 AM (3,441 Views)
Fire_Emblem_Guy


I don't know who'd be interested in this sort of thing, especially since it's around the time school is starting up and since not a lot of people seem to be playing TF2 right now, but the European Team Fortress 2 League is having an international tournament, designed for players new to competitive play. Basically, all that needs to be done is to put together a team of 9-14 TF2 players and sign them up before the 26th; anyone who registers and has their team play so much as a single round even gets a free medal. Anyone interested in signing up and seeing just how poorly we play what happens?

http://etf2l.org/highlander/

Interest so far:
Max: Engineer
Apejack: Scout, Soldier, Medic
Kiwi: Soldier, Heavy, Medic
Jeff: Spy, Heavy, Engineer
Vicas: Medic, Pyro
Wally: Heavy, Medic, Soldier, Pyro
Shade: Pyro, Medic, Engineer
Ghib: Heavy, Soldier, Medic, Scout
FEGuy
Azazoth
Edited by Walliard, Aug 11 2010, 11:31 PM.
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Kinkajou
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I make iron women out of iron maidens

Looks interesting. I'd be up for it.
"Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice."

Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice"
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

If I have a machine that'll do it by then I'd try.
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[00:09:11] Magus of the Purge: You and Kim's anniversary is the original Great Purge?
[00:09:15] Captain Vicas: Yep
[00:09:28] Magus of the Purge: No wonder your relationshup has lasted this long.
[00:09:32] Captain Vicas: Of course
[00:09:36] Magus of the Purge: it was blessed by Gheb himself
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Bears


I've actually done a few PUGs before, and did passably as Soldier or Medic. Then again, that was when I played a lot. If others wanted to, I would give it a try.

EDIT: However, we'll all have Americaping.
Edited by Bears, Aug 11 2010, 02:46 AM.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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I say it's worthwhile for the experience points, regardless of how well we do. I'm really rusty, but count me in.
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

For the record, if I am in this, I'd need some idiot proof spot like soldier or pyro.
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[00:09:11] Magus of the Purge: You and Kim's anniversary is the original Great Purge?
[00:09:15] Captain Vicas: Yep
[00:09:28] Magus of the Purge: No wonder your relationshup has lasted this long.
[00:09:32] Captain Vicas: Of course
[00:09:36] Magus of the Purge: it was blessed by Gheb himself
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Sure, I'm in.
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Bears


Jeff is pretty much the only Spy choice. I can run a bunch of things (Soldier, Scout and Medic are the best, but I'm a bit too aggressive as Medic and get killed a lot).
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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I make iron women out of iron maidens

So far: Azzy, Vicas, Wally, Shade, Apejack.

We need...Kiwi, Max, Adder...maybe my fiance, he's a decent Heavy...

EDIT: I can do Medic and Engineer, and Pyro just because I don't suck completely at it.
Edited by Kinkajou, Aug 11 2010, 03:04 AM.
"Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice."

Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice"
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Pyro just because I don't suck completely at it.

Yes you bloody do, you use the backburner.

Anyway, I'd be in for this. I could not do Scout, Spy, or Sniper. I probably should not do Demoman. I could do Engineer (but first I need to get the Gunslinger back... I acidnetally crafted my milestone one <____<)
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Bears


We should just have six clones of me plus Kiwi, Deathcore, and Moon.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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Fire_Emblem_Guy


I suppose, since we can have as many as 14 people, I'd like put myself in pretty much as a spare, assuming there aren't 14 people other than myself interested. I can play soldier decently, but I need to find a new mouse first, and hope my laptop holds out since the wifi module and the battery connector seem to freak out daily. If it comes down to the university-issued laptop I'm screwed. Who the hell puts a non-Starter version of Windows 7 on a machine with only one gig of RAM?
Edited by Fire_Emblem_Guy, Aug 11 2010, 03:56 AM.
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Fresh as the first day of Spring!

Sure, why not.

Kiwi can do hovy and soldier well. He's an ok scoot, and if absolutely necessary, he can be a snipper.
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*uses Draco Meteor*

I'll Spy. I mean play.

Okay I'll probably end up being the Spy for the entire game like Apejack mentioned but yeah.

Also, Soldier is probably the most important class, so it's far from idiot proof. Pyro is still fairly idiot proof - all you need to learn is how to airblast and how to use the Axtinguisher properly. Engineer used to be pretty idiot proof, but the Engineer update drastically changed that. Heavy is fairly simple, but it's important to have some skill there, given how powerful the Heavy is now - if we put our best elsewhere, I'd say the Pyro and Heavy should generally stick together. Actually that just sounds like a good idea anyway, what with the Pyro's ability to weaken Soldiers, Demomen, and Spies.

A few questions:

What should our Engineer carry - Gunslinger or Wrench? Mini-sentries are great for being aggressive, and I doubt we'll get much chance to hold out for long on defence.

What should our combo be - Medic/Soldier or Medic/Heavy?

Does anyone have more than 10 backstabs in one life in a legitimate scenario?

Is it going to be the standard cp_granary and pals map rotation?

A few ideas:

I want to have a good Sniper.

We should try to recruit DP if possible.

Max is fat.



Edited by BlueYoshi, Aug 11 2010, 09:10 AM.
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Kinkajou
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I make iron women out of iron maidens

Goat was a good sniper, IIRC, if we can recruit him.

If we are going to do this, we should probably start playing as a team beforehand to develop more cohesion and strategy. Plus, all of us could use more practice.
"Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice."

Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice"
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

I'd also medic, if necessary. I was decent at that when I used to play.
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[00:09:11] Magus of the Purge: You and Kim's anniversary is the original Great Purge?
[00:09:15] Captain Vicas: Yep
[00:09:28] Magus of the Purge: No wonder your relationshup has lasted this long.
[00:09:32] Captain Vicas: Of course
[00:09:36] Magus of the Purge: it was blessed by Gheb himself
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Bears


The Medic needs, beyond anything else, to have a mic and use it constantly. Ubers are often the deciding factor in comp matches. Furthermore I'd say that everyone who's playing needs a mic and to use it constantly. I'll (Kiwi, Jeff and Max are welcome to, too - I trust you guys to come up with solid stuff) look up strategies re: Medic buddies as I'm familiar with how 6v6 play rolls, but not Highlander. Right now off the top of my head, Medic-Soldier seems like the best combo, with the Scout staying within reasonable range of them to fight off the enemy's Scout. Kiwi and I are both good at handling enemy Scouts.

And Jeff, I might've gotten 10+ backstabs in one life a few times. I'd say you're better than me as Spy, but not by a huge margin.

Anyway, imo everyone list classes they would be comfortable with playing in a competitive scenario. Try to limit it to three. I'll start:

Apejack: Scout, Soldier, Medic
Kiwi: Soldier, Heavy, Medic
Jeff: Spy, Heavy, Engineer (this sound right?)

Also someone get in touch with Goat.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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I make iron women out of iron maidens

Shade: Pyro, Medic, Engineer

I tend to play defensive Engineer, though, not offensive, so if we need an offensive Engy, that can be a problem.

EDIT: Also, list of people who expressed interest:


Max
Apejack
FEGuy
Vicas
Wally
Shade
Kiwi
Azazoth
Jeff

Maybe:

Chrono
Goat

Not interested:

Dinner
Edited by Kinkajou, Aug 11 2010, 08:06 PM.
"Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice."

Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice"
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

Vicas: Medic, Pyro, not really sure

I'd be more willing to soldier if I wasn't incredibly rusty.
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[00:09:11] Magus of the Purge: You and Kim's anniversary is the original Great Purge?
[00:09:15] Captain Vicas: Yep
[00:09:28] Magus of the Purge: No wonder your relationshup has lasted this long.
[00:09:32] Captain Vicas: Of course
[00:09:36] Magus of the Purge: it was blessed by Gheb himself
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yeeeeess

i will play if you bastards haven't taken every available slot
i can play heavy, soldier, medic, or scout
and -maybe- sniper
also: i dunno about tf2 but in othergames like bf2 you use a third party chat program instead of the ingame one so you can communicate while you're dead
Edited by Ghhlbsk, Aug 11 2010, 09:09 PM.
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*uses Draco Meteor*

Jeff: Spy, Spy, Spy
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I could do anything except Spy, Sniper, or Scout. I would prefer Engineer, though.

Hmm. I wonder what my loadout would be here... I suppose it depends on the map. I'll use the FJ almost always, but the rest I'm unsure of. I rarely use the pistol or wrangler, so I think the wrangler will be taken since it's more versatile. I think for 5 point maps and CTF (if we get those), mini sentries may do more good... for others, Southern Hospitality, I think.
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Edited the signups/classes so far into the first post. Everyone should try to experiment over the next week or so to settle on a top three, ideally in some sort of order of preference.

As for maps, I believe there's a wider spectrum than the standard comp lineup, simply because there are more maps suited to 9v9 than 6v6.
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If I get pushed off Engineer, I could do Demo or Soldier (although Soldier interest seems full).
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yeeeeess

actually, on second thought, you can cut medic off of my list
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I think whoever ends up being pyro, we need to make sure they know some basic pyro things

like airblast extinguishes fire

I am amazed how many people dont' seem to realize this
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and basic uber-pushing away skills

Negating ubers is a pyro's most important function; spy control is secondary. Killing is tiertiary.
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*uses Draco Meteor*

In theory, the Pyro should probably hang out with the Medic combo to spycheck and harass enemy combos. In theory.
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yeeeeess

also, i really think we should roll with heavy/medic, as opposed to soldier/medic
Edited by Ghhlbsk, Aug 12 2010, 12:32 AM.
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Also, I don't know how maps/gametype will be decided for this thing, but if we end up in Arena, we should practice that a LOT, as it's a totally different style.
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My classes:
- excellent heavy
- good soldier/medic/spy
- mediocre demo/pyro/engineer
- terrible sniper/scout

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So anyway

What is this "stopwatch" mode

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Stopwatch simply refers to Attack/Defend maps like Dustbowl. The assumption is that BLU will always win in a competitive (i.e. coordinated) situation, so each team gets a shot at attacking and whichever team has the fastest time wins the round. Gravelpit and Gorge do this in a best-of-three format due to their relative shortness.

...I think.
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Makes sense.
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Don't worry guys, I got a good price for selling you out

I'm interested in playing. It's been a while, but I'm pretty decent as a Pyro.
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*uses Draco Meteor*

Here's the map list:

Group round 1: 1. Gravelpit 2. Upward
Group round 2: 1. Gravelpit 2. Freight
Group round 3: 1. Badwater 2. Badlands
Group round 4: 1. Badwater 2. Granary
Playoff stage:
Round of Sixty-Four: 1. Goldrush 2. Freight 3. Viaduct
Round of Thirty-Two: 1. Dustbowl 2. Upward 3. Viaduct
Round of Sixteen: 1. Badlands 2. Granary 3. Viaduct
Quarter Final: 1. Gravelpit 2. Goldrush 3. Viaduct
Semi Final: 1. Dustbowl 2. Badwater 3. Viaduct
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Gravelpit/Upward or Badwater/Badlands, IMO.

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OH MY PORK!

Actually having read this now, it doesn't look anywhere near as bad as the previous ETF2L community thing I've seen - this is specifically aimed at new people.


As said, mic communication is a must - if you're constantly chatting, that performs as a spycheck for you.
Medic needs to know when to use uber and when to use kritz - kritzsoldier can be devastating in the right situation, other times call for well-placed ubers, etc.

Freight isn't particularly complex, but it's well worth getting to know it.


I would play if the times were agreeable and the lag wasn't bad, but somehow I don't think that'll work out. I'm a decent medic, for reference, but I'm not particularly comfortable [competitively] in much else
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I make iron women out of iron maidens

Looking at our class list, we're still missing a good Sniper and a good Demoman.
"Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice."

Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice"
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yeeeeess

Kinkajou
Aug 12 2010, 03:45 PM
Looking at our class list, we're still missing a good Sniper and a good Demoman.
i used to be a great demo, but i am absolutely unsure of my abilities right now.
if we don't have one come crunch time i'll play demo and see if i can hit anything
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Can attempt to recruit Tay for sniper spot.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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Ghhlbsk
Aug 12 2010, 07:30 PM
Kinkajou
Aug 12 2010, 03:45 PM
Looking at our class list, we're still missing a good Sniper and a good Demoman.
i used to be a great demo, but i am absolutely unsure of my abilities right now.
if we don't have one come crunch time i'll play demo and see if i can hit anything
Or we can get Apejack's dad to play Demoman for Goldrush. >___>
"Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice."

Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice"
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What's the password?

i am neophyte demoman, and luck-based sniper


my best class is probably heavy -- i can sometimes pull of a decent spy, but not regularly
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Aug 11 2010, 07:57 PM
Apejack: Scout, Soldier, Medic
Kiwi: Soldier, Heavy, Medic
Jeff: Spy, Heavy, Engineer (this sound right?)
Kiwi wouldn't be all that comfortable playing Medic, he has bad judgment when it comes to ubers and he kinda gets frustrated often.

Not to sound arrogant or something, but is there anyone better suited to the soldier class then Kiwi here?
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Aug 12 2010, 08:05 PM
Apejack Cuba
Aug 11 2010, 07:57 PM
Apejack: Scout, Soldier, Medic
Kiwi: Soldier, Heavy, Medic
Jeff: Spy, Heavy, Engineer (this sound right?)
Kiwi wouldn't be all that comfortable playing Medic, he has bad judgment when it comes to ubers and he kinda gets frustrated often.

Not to sound arrogant or something, but is there anyone better suited to the soldier class then Kiwi here?
I would say that there's not a very large gap between our skill levels.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

I was a fairly good medic back when I played, and I can keep the chatter up any time. I do need to get back into practice, though. I know it's crazy for me to say it, but invite me to the next TF2 session. If my computer and internet don't shit themselves I'll see how much I have to remember.
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[00:09:15] Captain Vicas: Yep
[00:09:28] Magus of the Purge: No wonder your relationshup has lasted this long.
[00:09:32] Captain Vicas: Of course
[00:09:36] Magus of the Purge: it was blessed by Gheb himself
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Like I said, if I absolutely have to, I would do Demo, but I would prefer Engineer
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I make iron women out of iron maidens

So, who is gonna be our team leader here?
"Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice."

Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice"
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Choice obvious.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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Apejack Cuba
Aug 12 2010, 10:51 PM
Choice obvious.
I think someone who doesn't have one of the team members blocked would be a better choice than you.
"Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice."

Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice"
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I think I'm good enough. Typically the leader is the Medic, but if Vicas is to be our Medic I'm not sure if he'd even want to be the team captain. Other good choices (possible deputies?) would be Jeff, Kiwi and Sabre.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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I make iron women out of iron maidens

Sabre is a good choice for leader.
"Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice."

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No offense to Sabre, but why Sabre? He doesn't play that much as far as I know...

I think Jeff or Wally should do it.
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Sabre's quite good; I'd estimate he is about my level. If I'm not Scout, he's who I would want to be Scout. Otherwise, he could be Pyro, since I recall him being good at that.
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
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Engineer > Pyro > Demo > Soldier > Medic > Heavy > Sniper > Spy > Scout

That is my scale.
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I'm not a good choice for leader. I wouldn't mind doing it if I had to, but depending on when this tournament takes place, I might not be available at certain times as my next semester at uni is about to start and I have things going on that I can't miss. I can't guarantee I'll be available all the time and I kinda need to be if I'm the leader.
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I didn't even think of that... when is this tourney anyway?

I mean I don't do anything when I'm not in class so whatever, but <__<
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Well then, take it as a compliment that I think so highly of you, Sabre.
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I'm not a good choice for leader. I wouldn't mind doing it if I had to, but depending on when this tournament takes place, I might not be available at certain times as my next semester at uni is about to start and I have things going on that I can't miss. I can't guarantee I'll be available all the time and I kinda need to be if I'm the leader.
The games are scheduled based on European clocks, so you'd be better off than most of us, time-wise. IIRC they usually play matches at 20:00.
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8 PM British, what is that in democratic time?

I think that's 2 PM East Coast.
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I'm fairly sad I wasn't mentioned at all here for sniper post, eventhough I mostly just lurk here randomly and rarely ever ever ever post and probably forgotten off the top of the brain by most of the active ppl. >.>.<.<

Either way, I'd be up for sniper post and I pretty sure my sniper record should consider me decent even if I'm partially rusty for going Huntsman 85% of the time and not playing often.
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Well then, take it as a compliment that I think so highly of you, Sabre.
He did. :D
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Excellent.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
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I'm fairly sad I wasn't mentioned at all here for sniper post, eventhough I mostly just lurk here randomly and rarely ever ever ever post and probably forgotten off the top of the brain by most of the active ppl. >.>.<.<

Either way, I'd be up for sniper post and I pretty sure my sniper record should consider me decent even if I'm partially rusty for going Huntsman 85% of the time and not playing often.
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

I probably wouldn't be a very good leader due to rustiness alone. I'm not super familiar with all the tactics.

Also, I now have TF2 installed back onto this laptop, so I can't guarantee it'll be a great connection, I can play again.
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Do you have a mic, even?

Well that's not a giant problem, you can, uhh, get oen
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Ok, hop aboard then. Adventure awaits.

Uh, dude, have you ever played TF2 with me? Or know that I do Let's Play?
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no and no
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every time I am in those convos I just end up leaving because nothing happens then getting forced to join it 20 more times
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I'm fairly sad I wasn't mentioned at all here for sniper post, eventhough I mostly just lurk here randomly and rarely ever ever ever post and probably forgotten off the top of the brain by most of the active ppl. >.>.<.<

Either way, I'd be up for sniper post and I pretty sure my sniper record should consider me decent even if I'm partially rusty for going Huntsman 85% of the time and not playing often.
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I usually run around Jarating ppl then chasing them with wooden machetes when somewhat close, so yeah. >.>.<.<

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Honestly, I think Jarate and Huntspamming does more good than actual sniperness except at the highest skill tier, so that's fine.

As long as you're not a razorbacker.
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Also, I think you should use the Kukri over the Shiv.
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Honestly, I think Jarate and Huntspamming does more good than actual sniperness except at the highest skill tier, so that's fine.
Kiwi would say the opposite. Jarate is definitely helpful for the team, though if you're not close enough to the front to actually hit things with it, the SMG may be better for the odd spy or scout that gets around (especially scouts, those things hurt scoots).

Kiwi would say that the rifle is more beneficial to the team as it makes it easier to take out the things that cater to the sniper's actual job, like engies and heavies much better then huntspamming. Though Kiwi doesn't see why you can't switch between the two if one isn't working.

Kiwi thinks Squid would make a good leader, Kiwi could possibly do so as well, though he'd require us to get practice working together (and most definitely not so Kiwi can get used to taking command) if he is going to be it.

Jeff, Kiwi thinks he could do well in it too, but he'd likely be our spy and Kiwi is somewhat hesitant about having the spy calling the shots (though he would be able to recon better then everyone except the scoot).

Saber? Honestly, Kiwi hasn't seen enough of him to say one way or another which makes Kiwi want to say nay to him being leader (he also doesn't strike Kiwi as a leader)
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On Sniper: Completely agreed with Kiwi. Rifle is great for taking out Engies and buildings, blah blah blah.

On team leader: Jeff and I are certainly the best as far as tactics go, and Sabre doesn't seem interested in being captain, so I'm fine with it unless Jeff wants to be team captain really badly or something. Kiwi's a solid candidate, but I'm not sure if he'd be better than Jeff - chances are in case I wouldn't be around, as captain I'd name Jeff my first replacement and Kiwi my second. From what I know (again, mostly 6v6), the captain usually plays Medic, which I'm cool with doing, but I'm not sure if there's anyone who's near me in Scout ability, aside Sabre if he still plays Scout.

Anyway, here's ideal loadouts imo:

Scout: Vanilla, aside maybe Sandman since it's allowed. Demo/Heavy/Soldier should be okay against a single sentry. I could see FaN getting some use on Gravelpit defense, though, just for C.
Soldier: Unless Kiwi really likes Direct Hit, I'd go rocket launcher, shotgun, and Equalizer. Not sure about using the Buff Banner here, as it means you can get caught with your pants down much more easily. Pain Train could see some use on 5 CP maps.
Pyro: Vanilla aside Axtinguisher.
Demoman: Vanilla.
Heavy: Natascha/rest vanilla. Or all vanilla. I like Natascha's slowdown though.
Engineer: I'm not really sure here. Never been an engineer player, I prefer to play a more active role on offense or support.
Medic: I could see Kritz having use, especially with a Soldier. Medic shouldn't be defending himself, though, so I'd say go with standard syringe gun and... I guess it's a toss-up between Bone and Ubersaws. Would go with Bonesaw, personally.
Sniper: Rifle, Jarate, Kukri I guess. SMG works as well.
Spy: Revolver, Dead Ringer.

Comment.
Edited by Bears, Aug 14 2010, 11:51 AM.
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: "Alternate Universes".
4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
4:25 PM - John Ѯzzingford: For example, you could take the cast of the Mario games, and set them up in some kind of detective-versus-cannibal-mastermind drama.
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I can still play Scout, though I'll need a hell of a lot of practise to get back into top form.

I defer to your judgement on equips, since I haven't really been able to play TF2 over the past year. Still, has Natascha been buffed enough to warrant using it over the normal minigun?
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More like the Heavy has been buffed (movement speed while spun-up and spin-up time), but yeah.
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Scoot: Kiwi thinks if Squid medics, Sabre is our best bet as what will likely be a better ping for him would give him an advantage over the other potential scoot candidates. Weapons wise? Squid seems to know what he's talking about here. More so then Kiwi.

Soldier: The DH vs the normal RL. It is more of a toss up then many people would like you to believe. To keep it simple, the DH is superior in taking out sentry nests, usually heavies and pretty much anything that can't dodge. RL is, however, not only a more reliable damage dealer, it is better suited for groups, the ability to damage both the medic and his patient, and separate them, is useful. In regards to one hitting the lower HP classes, it's not guaranteed unless it is a sandman scout at pretty much point-blank. A scoot worth his salt won't let you get a second hit with it, which brings Kiwi to secondary weapons.

Buff Banner, Gunboats, and Shotgun: Since we will always have a medic (though he may not be available) and we won't be playing Arena, the gunboats seem to take on minimal importance (though Kiwi doesn't really like them due to only having the Rocket launcher to shoot people with). The Buff Banner can and has turned a bad situation around, even if the soldier is by himself. The issue is that it's not immediately available if you run into trouble from the start. The shotgun, oh boy, the shotpump, Kiwi's personal choice 98% of the time. Dropping it is not taken lightly as the soldier uses this when his rockets run out in the middle of a fight, and to finish off those pesky scoots. Pretty much required if using the DH as it is your best means of finishing off an enemy. With the standard RL you can get away with not using it, however.

Pyro: No argument for the primary or axetinguisher. Air blast is too vital to give up for the damage boost. The secondaries, if you can use the flare gun, go ahead. If you aren't confident in your ability to use it, don't chance it and use the shotpump. It is your best bet for finishing off those burning scouts.

Heavy: If you have a medic, sandvich, which may seem odd, but if your medic is about to die, he will need it. Not to mention the chances of you not being able to rev your gun up with a medic healing you is small. Without a medic? Personal choice, each has its pros and cons. Admittedly, if you tend to run into ammo issues, you might want to use the shotgun regardless.

Enginerd: Gunslinger on offense, definitely. Defense? Situational. Emergency NEED GUN NOW: gunslinger. If you can set up, normal sentry. Kiwi doesn't find the wrangler that useful in a good team as the others can help you out if you're getting outranged, and it requires you to expose yourself. FJ? Kiwi honestly doesn't know. Depends on how well you/your sentry can survive.

Too long especially for soldier since Kiwi will likely be playing it. Just food for thought in case someone else takes the mantle.
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Your judgments are solid.

Basic guidelines:

- If they're not giving us a vent server for the match, we should all get Skype. At the least if this isn't feasible, we should all be on Steam group chat.
- Report EVERYTHING. Engies building, where a sniper's hiding out, everything.
- Don't do anything stupid in-match like melee fighting unless it's that desperate.
- Try to get tr_walkway and practice on it a bit, if you can stomach that. Mostly for the aim-intensive classes, though.
- More added later I guess.
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i really disagree with your judgement on the wrangler, with a level 3 sentry you can knock away foes trying to edge your sentry with rockets and the enormous fire rate boost added to the shield makes it practical to use with a minisentry as well
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i really disagree with your judgement on the wrangler, with a level 3 sentry you can knock away foes trying to edge your sentry with rockets and the enormous fire rate boost added to the shield makes it practical to use with a minisentry as well
Well, edging and what not was what Kiwi meant by the team supporting you. And using it on a mini-sentry seems to kind of take away from the purpose of the minisentry a bit (distraction and flanking mostly)
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Alright, team name?

So far the contenders are BIG and Max is Fat.
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i really disagree with your judgement on the wrangler, with a level 3 sentry you can knock away foes trying to edge your sentry with rockets and the enormous fire rate boost added to the shield makes it practical to use with a minisentry as well
Well, edging and what not was what Kiwi meant by the team supporting you. And using it on a mini-sentry seems to kind of take away from the purpose of the minisentry a bit (distraction and flanking mostly)
ah, but that's just it- with a wrangler the minisentry is just a bigger and badder distraction. between the increased damage output and and shield, it's like a level 2 sentry but you can throw it up in a second and a half
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For whoever is Soldier:

Keep in mind that your buff banner bar fills even if you don't have it equipped. So if you do a crapload of damage and then go to respawn closet and switch to banner, it'll be ready to go. Just in case you didn't know.

As the team engineer, for most maps, my loadout will be FJ/Wrangler/SH. Actually I may use the Pistol (Sam and Max pistol of course) instead. The Wrangler is rarely used; it's biggest problem is that you cannot repair the sentry while in a fight. And since we'll be playing against good teams, they'll realize that you can just run in as soon as you see the laser beam go off and kill it as it'll be sleeping.

Perphaps use the gunsinger at the beginning of attack/defense maps before we can move up at all, but after that, protecting the teleporter is the most important thing I can do, so I would use standard ones. For 5 point maps... it's a toss up. I don't play those as often, but I would imagine it's situational depending on how far we've moved up.
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Note that I'll probably be taking the wrangler anyway despite what I said. There are far fewer situations when you'll need a pistol than a wrangler, even though both aren't that common.
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Okay guys. I need you to register for the ETF2L site and give me your names on there. I'll add you to the team after you do this.

Alternatively, you can give me your SteamID, desired log-in name (I registered Jeff and I have Ghhb's, so he can either ask me for it or give me his email and desired name on there so I can register for him) and email and I can sign you up. It will email you a random password so you don't have to worry about that.

EDIT: Sorry, I darkwing ducked up. Need your SteamID (the long string of numbers, when on a server enter 'status' in the console and you'll get it), desired log-in name and email, not just SteamID and email.

Gonna make a new topic just for this.
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4:24 PM - John Ѯzzingford: Taking an existing set of characters, and putting them in an altogether different setting.
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We are BIG (with brackets) obviously. What else could we be?

Anyway, I'll go register myself and post my name here. Apejack's the leader, I'm assuming?

EDIT: ...ehhhh, shit, whoever is the leader can sign me up, I don't have time atm.
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Yes. Instructions are in the other topic if you need them. Give me your login name once you've signed up.
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Also, if Apejack is going to be team leader, it is not a good idea for him to have people blocked on IM -_-
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If you disagree with how I'm going to do this, you can make your own team or put up with it. There's ways to communicate around the block, and I wouldn't have anyone blocked unless I had solid reason for it.

End of discussion.
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I'm just saying, I'm tired of delivering messages because you won't talk to someone.
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...just don't "overlook" me for teams.

Log in info sent, now to idle for a flippin' Axetinguisher.
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We are now entered in the competition. There's four spots left on the team, anyone interested contact me.
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Who is actually entered?
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i'd like to play the demoman, if nobody minds.
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