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| Fas and RvE; My input, to clear things up | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 18 2006, 07:36 AM (598 Views) | |
| {RvE}extracheese | Oct 18 2006, 07:36 AM Post #1 |
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Dear Fas Shit has gone on between fas and rve for a while now, for a long time I didnt even bother getting involved because I didnt want to make RvE look bad. First of all, I would like to clear up what happened in the early days, I have heard a lot of BS come from some people about how all this started and how RvE was created to destroy fas. A few fas members, namely, witness and atega got pissed off at how fas was being lead and decided to leave and make a new clan. At the time I played with bubbles, vivs, snappy, creeping, rufus, witness, and atega. When they propasitioned me to leave there was no doubt, after all I enjoyed playing with the people, not the tag. None of us ever deliberated taking down fas, RvE was about having fun playing AA. When we left, it was on good terms, many of us made posts saying that this was nothing agaisnt fas and we wished to still play along side some of the members who decided to stay in fas. This is when the shit hit the fan. {RvE}creeping_death got drunk. This lead to some sware words being thrown out on the fas server and exchanged between some fas members and maybe another guy or 2 from our clan, I'm not 100% sure. Creeping was obviously banned, we basicaly accepted this because I mean, we know creeping has a foul mouth, even the fas leaders knew this. A few days after this, all of RvE was banned from the Fas server... our responce was simply "what the f**k? Well if they are going to be idiots, f**k them", we thought we were still friends with members from fas, but we were banned. Sorry for the long pointless story, but I hated not being able to get the truth out because your leaders banned me... If you think anything I said is a lie, you obviously dont know me. I also hope macmerc reads this, because I have heard him attack our clan and our members with absolute bs. All I have to ask is why? I never once did anything to fas, I was not unhappy with the leaders, I still enjoyed playing with their members. Now this is where I voice my opinion. I know from the above experience how your leaders atribute 1 person to a whole clan, so please know this has nothing to do with the other members of RvE. I've heard through the grapevine that RvE and Fas are trying to "mend fences" because snappy and creeping have left RvE, considering my IP has been unbanned I would imagine this is true. All I have to say is, f**k that shit. Fas pulled this shit, you banned us, you told us to get fucked because of 1 of our members... If you think because 2 of our greatest members left that we are going to come back and make out with you in the school yard you can go suck a fat one, even creeping has more maturity than they guys who made the decisions in fas, it took this whole ordeal to make me see that. I request you dont delete this post, atleast the one explaining the real story about what happened, because I'm sick of all the bullshit floating around. Good day. |
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| =Fas=Corporal.Costa | Oct 18 2006, 07:44 AM Post #2 |
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One question dude when did you last try and log into the forum? |
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| {RvE}extracheese | Oct 18 2006, 07:48 AM Post #3 |
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Maybe a month ago. |
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| =Fas=Corporal.Costa | Oct 18 2006, 08:04 AM Post #4 |
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So it would be news to you that RvE members have not been banned from the forums since the middle of september.(I have seen bubbles log in on various ocasions) I think....judging by the amount of info I know about the Creeping/Snappy issue, that this occurred 1 day ago. |
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| {RvE}extracheese | Oct 18 2006, 08:08 AM Post #5 |
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So? |
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| =Fas=Corporal.Costa | Oct 18 2006, 08:15 AM Post #6 |
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So? Well most of the stuff you wrote is Null and Void You think we banned all of you because of 2 of your members. You think that Now that they left,we unbaned you yesterday .....Not true since we allowed RvE access to our forums before they left. |
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| {RvE}extracheese | Oct 18 2006, 08:23 AM Post #7 |
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The unbanning was not what made me think this, it was just a thing that made it evident. (So much for that eh). I will not name names but I have heard people say that with creeping and snappy gone fas and rve will be able to chill out. How is my point null and void? Its about an unessesary banning and the fact that I think its beyond fixing. |
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| =Fas=Corporal.Costa | Oct 18 2006, 08:44 AM Post #8 |
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Well you based it on a false claim & you hurt my feelings..... So you think the bans were un-just? I dont think that only 2 RvE members caused the ban...it could be unjust if this was the case BUT there were more than 2 that contributed to this ban & the previous. I also remember many HOLLOW appologies by RvE's behalf. Reputation springs to mind.And judging by RvE's reputation on our Server / Forums it is not so Solid. unessesary.....I dont think so since we have given ample chances to your folk but you just mess it up. beyond fixing? I guess we will have to find out. |
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| =Fas=Corporal.Costa | Oct 18 2006, 08:54 AM Post #9 |
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So I take it as red you dont want the clans to "Chill Out" |
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| {RvE}No-Witnesses | Oct 18 2006, 09:51 AM Post #10 |
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Costa - I'd just like to know how his point is null and void when 12 hours after snappy and creeping leave, I get a PM from a =Fas= leader say you guy swant to kiss and makeup and that we are all allowed on your forums again? But thats besides the point. Personally, I'd like to put all this behind us because unlike MacMerc and Creeping, e-drama doesn't get me off. Creeping is no longer an RvE member, so that's a start. You don't have to worry about him acting a fool anymore. But by the same effect, there is no way we can possibly ever move forward unless you guys fix the problem on your end. You can't just expect us to want to kiss and make up as long as you still harbor santuary to a person who snuck onto our teamspeak, recorded our conversation, then distributed it (1 example from a well of countless other bonehead moves). Meet us halfway on this and I'll be more than happy to put this **** behind us, but don't you dare think for one minute that I view the departing of creeping and snappy as a good thing. I'd rather play with 1 creeping or 1 snappy than 100 =Fas= members. And if you guys have the same loyalties to each other that we do, I'm sure you feel the same way about your clan members. You want to fix our relations because our to "trouble makers"are gone? Fine. Get rid of your trouble maker and that will be a big step in the right direction. After all, MacMerc is pretty much the reason that {RvE} members aren't particularly fond of =Fas= - we hate him. We left for our own reasons, but MacMerc took it upon him self to be a spokeperson for imaturity and, officially, {RvE} hates him. I said my piece, I don't want to post anything else in this thread. I'm actually a little pissed that this thread even exists because I don't think the best way to go about putting this shit behind us is by taking a dump in your forums. Lazer has my response and I'd like to talk to him or costa only about what you guys have in mind for getting past the rivalry. Good day. -Wit |
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| Notorious | Oct 18 2006, 02:38 PM Post #11 |
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I am treading lightly here and don't want a flame war we have told this stroy quite a few times back and forth now and it's almost starting to seem pointless. There is a newsletter thingy witnesses was working on that I saw. In it he said I'm sorry wolf that you have to start your clan all over now. I was approached by a few of your members to leave fas a few days after I joined. It wasn't just a group of guys deciding to leave it was an attempt at getting everyone to leave. From what I have heard read and been explained it seems like the main reason for RvE starting was that the founders wanted admin status and control of the clan. Not much of it seems to be about fun til a weeks after you left. There was a good amount of threads left on here when you left with a lot of info your leaving out. Not sure if you never saw it never cared or what. At this point let's just drop the bullshit. This is garbage 2.5 is on it's peak right now a few more months it will dwindle down. Let's just enjoy it. I wasn't here before you guys left I only know what I saw and that obviously doesn't give the best picture and what I have seen might be a bit biased or it might not. But come on let's just end this once and for all. No need to waste time on this when we can be kiling in game. I'm done arguing about something that's half a year old. Please keep my name out of your mouth and I'll do the same. |
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| {RvE}No-Witnesses | Oct 18 2006, 04:26 PM Post #12 |
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My other post didn't meet admin regulations I guess as it was not approved to be in this thread. I am just as tired of this mess as any of you. I sent a message to lazer explaining clearly our position. After hearing from several of my members, it is clear that we want an apology. You banned us from your forums and from your servers whereas we have kept an open-door policy with all =Fas= members except for you-know-who. {RvE} doesn't have a major problem with =Fas= anymore; our major problem is with you-know-who. I was mad at wolf when I left =Fas= because I didn't like how he was running things - that's not my problem anymore. I don't care about how Wolf runs his clan because it isn't my clan and doesn't effect me like it did when I was in =Fas=. Macmerc, want to know the real story behind the makings of RvE? Then talk to me or atega or snappy directly, we'll tell you straight up what happened and why. Until then I'd recommend keeping speculation to a minimum. I want this e-drama to end, a lot of {RvE} guys do too. The general concensus from what I've seen is that it isn't worth it to put =Fas= back in our good graces as long as macmerc is still a member. He is a thorn in the side of a lot of our members, and that shouldn't be news to any of you. If you want the e-drama to end, I'd recommend writing an apology letter to {RvE}, we wrote on a while back and left you guys alone. We made good on our word until creeping and snappy had their last hurrah with macmerc. We don't need you to forgive us, we need you to apologize for the stick =Fas= has had up their rears when dealing with {RvE}. An apology will go a long way for our interclan relations. Until then, I really don't want to post in this thread again. Respectfully, No-Witnesses |
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| =Fas=Smacky187 | Oct 18 2006, 07:21 PM Post #13 |
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Sorry but I just had to let you know what I thought about this. First off I have been here for a little over 2 months now. I play nearly every night and I have never had a FAS member or anyone else for that matter act immature or do anything to make me think bad of them. You asked why would someone ban an entire clan cause of one member? Well if he was wearing your clan tag and doing that on my server I would ban all of you. Just for your information I was in a CS clan that this kinda crap was pulled and end the end only ppl that got shafted was the ones that tried to pull it. But your clan leaders should control their members better if that is the case, cause I can count on that no FAS member would come on your server and pull some crap like that drunk or not. Smacky language wewon
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| =Fas=black | Oct 18 2006, 07:41 PM Post #14 |
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This again? Anyone who waits 6 months to voice an opinion is just reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaallllly slow or is trolling to start crap. Let's all be big boys and move on. In the real world, there is always 27 sides to each story and you can NEVER make everyone happy. Suck it up, stop being a wimp and move on. I joined Fas just as RvE left and heard a bunch of crap on both sides. Macmerc has been handling himself well as of late and I think you should follow suit. MOVE ON!
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| {RvE}extracheese | Oct 19 2006, 03:26 AM Post #15 |
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Lol, I was banned from all contact with fas for 6 months, because you guys were too gutless to act propperly. I have no need to bring this into a light of ftk or another forum, because its none of their buisness. Costa, I have no problem with you, infact it was you and highway who convinced me to join fas, but if you think banning me and many other members from your forums and server was just, then your view on what that means is extremely fucked up. My intention with the first post was not to start any war, it was to state what happened and my opinion on the subject. Considering you were all too pathetic to see what it was before you made stupid decisions to make this shit what it has become today. ? As for mac merc, I dont really give a shit what he does. I just dont like ignorence, so I hope he takes some enlightenment from my side of the story. And yes costa, I hope fas and rve dont try to fix any bridges. I dont want our clan trying to please you guys every time you have a hissy fit about a couple of our members, just because your too immature to deal with it properly. ? This will be my last post here, I didnt even intend on returning to this forum after the origional post, because as I said, I'm not here to start a discussion/arguement/war. I'm hear to tell you to all get fucked like you told us 6 months ago. |
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| =Fas=BigAl | Oct 19 2006, 08:24 AM Post #16 |
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Not going to add anything, but like black said. Can we all just move on. Someone lock the damn thread and we can all get on with our respective lives. |
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| =Fas=black | Oct 19 2006, 08:32 AM Post #17 |
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Your such a BIG...Oh, I don't know--AL!
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| =Fas=Corporal.Costa | Oct 19 2006, 09:19 AM Post #18 |
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Again you assume that only two RvE members caused all the problems....you are wrong again. You must be clinically thick if you have forgotten what your clan's members have done and how much crap they created on our Forum/Servers. You can always rely on the RvE Pygmalian effect. |
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| =Fas=Corporal.Costa | Oct 19 2006, 09:30 AM Post #19 |
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And I Dont have a problem with you Cheesz.I didnnt intend on useless arguing with one of my 2.3 Woodland buddies |
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| =Fas=iBook | Oct 19 2006, 09:40 AM Post #20 |
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| Wolflnx | Oct 19 2006, 09:49 AM Post #21 |
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When those few revolted against us they wanted to take the whole clan with them Those who follow them are guilty just like them and approved everything done Against us We have never steal or brainwash any players from any other clans. After leaving a few of you came back to our forum trying to recruit from the forum and the servers too. You all are against us because we did not let you do what ever you wanted Getting drunk cursing, administrator taking guns from opposite team and shooting Them, Tking players for fun, Treating guest players like shit. This is not tolerated on Fas. You all have tried so hard to put this clan down and have not been successful in doing so. This clan was not put together from renegades like you. PSO and my self work very hard to put this clan together and to let a few of you, Do what you want and destroyed what we have accomplish We don’t stop our new players from visiting your forum or server. We would Let them find out from themselves why {RvE} are not welcome. I don’t know what the hell you guys want so much to be friendly with Fas Mean while still stabbing us behind our backs. Fas was here before all of you on {RvE} was Part of Fas Fas are a better clan without all of you. We don’t need to play this game with none of you We don’t missed none of you Why don’t you do your self a favor, move on and forget Fas exist Do you feel remorse? Leaving Fas? I think is too late for that! We have tried a few times to forget your mistakes and patch things up but, Have never work out The day some of you stop been jealous of Fas things might work out between Our clan and those of you who are sincere and want to join Fas in the game I don’t think it would happen mean while you are brainwash by {RvE} so call leaders. Your last post shows your bad intentions and you will never change. The only time we will meet it would be on FTK tournaments Try not to stall and use excuses like last time. You will get your butt kick anyway |
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| {RvE}No-Witnesses | Oct 19 2006, 12:15 PM Post #22 |
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Stop stirring the poo cheez. I tried posting here twice yesterday, both posts never made it because the mods denied them, hopefully this one will make it. Firstly, Costa: You are a smart guy, I know you are smarter than you are acting. How dare you blame this entire fued on {RvE}. It's the most rediculous statement I've ever heard. Creeping logs onto your server and you ban him for saying "I wish I could shoot this 203 from my crotch." Then ban the rest of the clan from the server and the forums. {RvE} has kept an open-door policy with all but one =Fas= member for the last few months because banning only pisses people off and escalates the situation. All {RvE}'s fault? We are still waiting for an apology from =Fas= and specifically MacMerc for all the shit thats been caused from your end. Secondly: I am eager to put this all behind us, really. Wolf, want to know the reasons I left =Fas= and joined {RvE}? I tried telling you on several occassions to meet me on TS or AIM back during the seperation period but you wouldn't hear it. I'm still open to talk if you care to hear it. Until then you guys keep spreading your assumptions. I asked 4 people to leave =Fas= and come make {RvE with me: Bubbles, Snappy, Creeping, and Atega. Everyone else asked what was going on, we told them that we were leaving and why we were leaving, and they aksed to come with. Once people noticed that a lot of their friends were joining this new clan, they realized they were more loyal to their friends than to any clan tag and wanted to play with them, so they hopped on the bandwagon. Thirdly: Lets end this, seriously, right here and right now. We posted an apology months ago, right before you banned us from your forums, remember? We posted an apology for swearing on your server and offending your members, then we left it at that. You proceeded to ban most of us from your forums, IP ban a lot of us from your servers, and sent macmerc on little recon missions to spy on us. He recorded a teamspeak convo we had and then distributed it to all of you. He brags about "sneaking" onto our public forums and reading our posts. He harrasses my members constantly. Ask lazer for the convo's I've had with your angelic macmerc and you'll see why {RvE} is so pissed at him. Over the last several months, {RvE} has really only been pissed at one =Fas= guy - MacMerc. Most people say "I don't mind =Fas=, but I'd like to see macmerc get run over by a train" or something of that effect. We don't like him, a lot of you guys don't even like him. Why the hell do you let him wear your =Fas= tag and ruin the reputation of the entire clan? And as far as wolf is concerned: I don't care man. You banned me a while ago because you felt betrayed, thats fine. I left =Fas= because I felt betrayed, so I guess I figured you were just getting even. {RvE} is ready to move on, put things past us, and all live happily ever after... but before we can commit to anything we need to know A) That macmerc won't do anything to set back clan relations AGAIN. We aren't going to bother making any progress when we know that little cunt will do something that sets us back even farther. We need to know that Wolf won't instate random and unnannounced bans on {RvE} members. That will piss us off a lot again, and will not do anything to help clan relations. Wolf, if you want to ban us, tell us first for what reason you want to ban us, and maybe consult your council too. It isn't worth it for us to be all friendly again if you are just going to ban guys on a whim.If you can take care of those things, then I don't see any problem with =Fas= and {RvE} reconciling our past and sharing a beer together. Respectfully, {RvE}No-Witnesses |
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| Notorious | Oct 19 2006, 01:08 PM Post #23 |
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Your missing quite a bit. I actually brought up in the staff discussions to unban you a while ago. It seemed people where unsure of whether or not to do so. Also no one sent me to record your convo and if you have contact in the clan like you seem to be claiming you'd know not a soul ever heard it. It was never posted. A lot of what you posted is flat out wrong or misleading. I am done trying to argue with you about it. Some people saw what happened and everyone has a different opinion about it. So give it a rest already. I wasn't even staff when you caught your first clan ban yu guys managed that all on your own. Your actions since then have kept it going. Everytime something moves forward it seems RvE moves it back. ---> I will say in those convo's you mailed lazer supposedly it's interesting that in them I asked you why your members where spoofing my name and you told me RvE had nothing to do with it. Itt's even weirder snappy was just caught for that. Why are you guys here days after your clan member spoofed my name? Give it a rest. |
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| =Fas=Lazerboy2000 | Oct 19 2006, 03:36 PM Post #24 |
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The reason we banned you after you apologized on our forum is because we saw that post that Creeping made on your forum that trashed =fas= and obviously, pissed us off and made us feel that your apology was full of shit when creeping is gonna keep pulling crap. We've had too many incidents where somebody from Rve will try to hack into the forums or spoof somebody's name so we banned all of you to prevent it. Although we all consider Wolf to be the head leader of =Fas= and we all respect him very much, he relies and trusts his staff very much to make decisions for the best interest of the clan. =Fas= is not a dictatorship whether you like to think so or not. I've heard numerous stories from people that play on the RvE server and they will get banned because some admin will think they hack, with absolutly no proof, just because they have a good round and get lucky. Merc is correct that nobody ever told him to go "spy" on your ts and he is also correct that nobody has ever seen or heard a copy of the recording. Wit, I recieved your PM that include the chats with merc and I frankly dont see how you get so offended by them. THey have nothing to do with an insult towards RvE and if you felt harassed by these, just block him from your list. I honestly wish that somebody from RvE would take some responsibilty and actions when one of your members steps out of line and keeps trying to cause shit with us. You should know very well that if any =Fas= member were to spoof another player, intentionally cause shit on a server, or make a public post that flames another clan, they would be punished. We have had SEVERAL incidents where Merc has been name spoofed, Rve members intentionally causing shit on our server and forum, and making posts to embarass =Fas=. It all seems to be caused by the same people but when nobody takes responsibility, we therefore blame the entire clan. I dont get why you feel abused and banned from our servers for no reason when we have had several incidents against Rve. We'd be much more willing to forget about everything if something only happened once, but when an apology is made but insults are continued to be thrown, we have no reason to trust RvE that they will behave. Merc, just like the rest of us, have said they are willing to stop arguing because we are all getting sick of it. I hope that we can all just put our personal problems aside, forget about the past, and move on. |
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| MoR_sevenkillers | Oct 19 2006, 06:58 PM Post #25 |
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| =Fas=Warrior | Oct 19 2006, 11:33 PM Post #26 |
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I have been following this thread since it started because feuds always interest me. You can learn a lot from other peoples mistakes if you allow yourself to. I stopped reading this thread today once I saw the lengthy posts recently made. You all know which they are. ![]() This is my summerize input about this and many other related feuds. 'Fighting on the internet is much like being in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you are still retarded.' New thread! This message is brought you to by Peter Griffin and Mr. T: Peter: You know what really grinds my gears? When I go onto forums and I see people making comments who cannot even have a beer or let alone vote! Who the hell let these kids (RvE) in?! Mr. T: I pitty the fools!
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| {RvE}No-Witnesses | Oct 20 2006, 04:41 PM Post #27 |
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Lazer - I didn't say we were pissed off for no reason, I said we were pisseed off for being banned. Creeping talked about shooting nades from his crotch, then you banned everybody in the clan, remember?. That pissed us off. If you can't see how banning people is going to escalate a situation or piss people off then I don't see how we could possibly talk our way through this stuff. Regardless of whether or not your bans were justified or fair or necessary, they are still going to piss people off on RvE's side of things, do you understand that? Now as far as spoofing/hacking/spamming/smurfing/ and other kind of game oriented "ing" word there is out there, what has {RvE} done since posting the apology besides snappy posing as macmerc on somebody's forums (and apparently in a server last week)? I can think of snappy's shinanigans and thats it, I don't know if there's other shit thats been going on behind the scenes or what, but I need to know from you guys what {RvE} has done recently that is so terrible? -Wit |
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| =Fas=Lazerboy2000 | Oct 20 2006, 05:30 PM Post #28 |
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I realize that bans can escalate a situation but we felt that they were necessary because we got sick of creeping and snappy coming to our server and causing shit, and then we'd ban them and the rest of the clan would get pissed and attack us on our forum, so we just banned all of you. since the apology, I believe that Merc has been spoofed a few times by snappy and Giorgio, who we believed to be involved with creeping and snapy in causing trouble. Other than that there hasn't been much that i can think of. It's not the point that only 1 or 2 things have happened since the apology, its that RvE has shown no proof of changing because there were still problems after the apology. This didn't give us any reason to think that RvE is going to behave on our server, so we kept the bans. If you would have just stopped doing stuff after you wrote the apology, then we'd be willing to truely accept it. |
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| {RvE}No-Witnesses | Oct 20 2006, 06:49 PM Post #29 |
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The causes of trouble, snappy, creeping, and gio, are currently not {RvE} members. So of current {RvE} members, would I be safe in suggesting that since the apology, the current {RvE} roster has done nothing in breach of our promises to leave you guys alone, or is there something else? I ask this because you guys contacted us about making peace and playing nice, yet this entire thread seems to be about the past. Granted, there are about 3 people who have posted that have any credibility or know whats going on here, but it seems like this is stirring the poo more than anything else. Want to put things behind us, then tell us what you want from us, because I think I've made our requests very clear: 1. Make sure Wolf doesn't instate random and unanounced bans, and 2. prevent macmerc from instigating more trouble. If you want things to move on from here, tell me what you want from us and maybe we can work towards an agreement. Otherwise, what are we talking about anyway? |
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| Notorious | Oct 20 2006, 07:03 PM Post #30 |
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I'm thinking your out of luck then. I asked for you to keep my name out of your mouths. I'm not gonna play your game here and post all the crap "CURRENT" members of rve have done. As I've said I'm done with this bs. Learn how to approach people properly and without insisting on demands from people who owe you nothing especially when you've done everything to not deserve a thing. No where in an apology should there be blame. Which is what you started off with. If someone on staff would like to bring up your clan being unbanned they're free to do so. |
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| MoR_sevenkillers | Oct 20 2006, 08:20 PM Post #31 |
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| =Fas=Lazerboy2000 | Oct 20 2006, 10:58 PM Post #32 |
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Yes as far as I know the rest of RvE has not bothered us since the apology. There is no need to point out names or try to make demands, we all have ways of becoming better and so we could list forever. The main thing is that hopefully we all want this to END once and forall. I think a formal letter of apology from either side will only give more reasons to start bickering over details. Compromising will only lead to more arguements since we all have very strong opinions and each team will support eachother till death. If people still have resentment towards one another, all they have to do is play on their own server and stay in their own forum and they dont even have to interact. Lets just stop with all of the name calling, shit starting, name spoofing, insults, Tking...etc...and the rest will fall into place. This is sooooo old and is getting nowhere. Lets all just act like gentlemen, put our past behind, and carry on. Those in favor say "Yay", those opposed say "Nay" Yay |
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| =Fas=BigAl | Oct 20 2006, 11:47 PM Post #33 |
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I'm for Yay, the 2.5 community is already too small, shutting ourselves off from each other only leads to fewer people to battle with/against. I know i wasnt around for any of it, but c'mon! Everyone just grow up, move on and forget about it. |
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| Prophecy | Oct 21 2006, 12:29 AM Post #34 |
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I vote NO {RvE} Anyone who votes in favor could kiss my
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| =Fas=iBook | Oct 21 2006, 06:39 AM Post #35 |
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how about unbanning them for a while and see how they act without "the causes of trouble"? |
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| {RvE}No-Witnesses | Oct 21 2006, 11:20 AM Post #36 |
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I think ibook's got a nifty idea... |
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| =Fas=Mappouras123 | Oct 21 2006, 12:55 PM Post #37 |
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How about RvE leave our servers alone and play on their own server..... Why pay for your own server and not play on it? Your clan has its own server so why don't you stick to playing on your own servers with your own clan members.....? I got no beef with you guys but your clan is only as strong as your weakest link and when the weak links show it spoiles it for the rest of you clan. "Tha captain always go's down with his ship...." I think we should let this lie for a while then mabey you can get back on the servers..... |
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| {RvE}No-Witnesses | Oct 21 2006, 02:05 PM Post #38 |
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Sorry, I thought w let this lie for the past few months? |
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| Notorious | Oct 21 2006, 02:54 PM Post #39 |
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Come on bro did it lie? Nothing happened? It was all kosher? Your quite the politician. |
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| {RvE}No-Witnesses | Oct 21 2006, 03:31 PM Post #40 |
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Look, I'm done here. For some reason you guys contacted us asking for a truce and saying you wanted to play together again; that was a total lie. I came here looking for an end to all this, and it seems that there is nobody in =Fas= who wants that besides lazerboy. Anyway, send me a PM if you guys ever feel like getting past this fued. Hopefully the next PM will be sincere, and not a lure into another stupid =Fas vs. {RvE} flame are that you guys seem to love to much. -Wit |
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We need to know that Wolf won't instate random and unnannounced bans on {RvE} members. That will piss us off a lot again, and will not do anything to help clan relations. Wolf, if you want to ban us, tell us first for what reason you want to ban us, and maybe consult your council too. It isn't worth it for us to be all friendly again if you are just going to ban guys on a whim.


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