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the mercy of god
Topic Started: Mar 12 2006, 02:47 AM (1,062 Views)
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how merciful is god?
must you pray, hail, and bow to the stronger power to recieve the bountys of afterlife?
or is just believing enough?
is not believing and not hailing enough?
what is enough to reach the gate of heaven
or is it all a trick?
Accually FMA related: Envy calls Pride a Puppet, The Dante prevokes Envy to get mad and go try to kill Ed and Al... Pride stands there probably thinking "Now who's the puppet you cross-dressing palm tree?"
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I say that it's all a trick, one so elaborate that even those in on the trick have fallen for it.
Laughing gas has a very simple chemical structure, and is deadly in large doses. Even if you don't get a lethal dose, you're going to be disoriented, making it easier to get a lethal dose.

I love alchemy.

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what about ppl in africa or something who never HEEARD of god? They cant belive what they never heard of.
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Mar 14 2006, 07:04 PM
what about ppl in africa or something who never HEEARD of god? They cant belive what they never heard of.

Africans have religion and such, just not Christianity. The same logic applies.
Laughing gas has a very simple chemical structure, and is deadly in large doses. Even if you don't get a lethal dose, you're going to be disoriented, making it easier to get a lethal dose.

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Depends on:

1. Which God from which religion.
2. If Christianity, then which Denomination?
3. If not a Denomination, but instead something like catholic, you're talking strict rules.
4. If you're talking something liek Protistent, your talking "Accepting the love of Jesus into your heart" and that's the ticket.
5. If you're just talking Agnostic... well, that's knowing it's there, but not caring, so... why would tehy ask?

Too many answers really... XD
Zoraida: "Amazing! I finally got my state title! ...Transcendent, eh? I wonder what amazingly beautiful nick name everyone will give me with my already stunning state title!?"
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Of all the names in the world... She's Transie.
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God will work in mysterious ways but if u wish to be close to him u have to believe in him no matter what happends thats the true spirit of christianity u make the miracles dont make someone else. Hope that answers ur question.
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.. the possibilities:
If their is no god, it isnt a trick for no one would pull it unless it was rather an aid for mankind, the origonal philosophers or "geniuses" of long ago realized without a higher purpouse and wanting humanity and civilization will crumble and thus they made it that way, telling about a god or gods and the rules.

But if ur a science person and need facts, honestly the possibility of us being here without being created by a higher being is impossible, the odds are against it. The probablility of a planet being in the proper spot with the right sized sun, oribit, gases and minerals/elements to creat such. Is impossible. EVEN THEN, life could still not honestly be created, for you can have all the ingrediants but you need that one special thing to make it all happen, life or a soul, some form of special energy to hold such materials together to create the first living organisums of life.

Nature is all to complicated and perfect to have been so random as that small window of oppertunity.

Also, it has been PROVED every human is 99.9% exactly the same that .01% is what makes you you, and all the males can be traced back to one origonal male, or ADAM and all Females can be traced back to one origonal femal, or EVE, they can also be traced back to africa in a tribe that even still exists today.

When the humans migrated and spread across the world the dark skin was not needed, and people got paler due to where they went.

For me a God does exist, it seems to impossible for their not to be one, as for which way to go..that too is complicated, I think many religons all trace to god eventually, each religon is one race or culutres way of understanding it, we just try to disprove each other, and many times it never works. Possibly because alot are all indeed right, they still serve god under the rules he gave them, if their was only one religon, many people would go to hell. and I dout that will happen.


(sorry im so annoying)
But also, saying the people have never heard of christianity is next to impossible due to the imperial ages of Europe, africa was taken over, they are definatly aware of the religon, i think the denominations are just perferred ways of living, non is wrong for they all serve the same god just in their own way, thats really all that matters.
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Roy, Roy, Roy, you use to word impossible too lightly. Me reaching through my computer screen and giving you a wet willie is impossible. Life forming on a planet is just highly improbable.

Highly improbable isn't that big a deal in this case, however. There are trillions of planets in the universe. Do you honestly think that it is impossible for any of them to have the right circumstances set for intelligent life to develop?

Nature isn't all balanced and delicate because it was designed that way, it just naturally compensating for balances until things balanced out. Overpopulation starves a species, causing the population to be thinned to a reasonable level. Being endangered starves the predators, reducing their numbers to a safer level to protect the species. It is the natural order, not divine design.

Empty claims of Adam and Eve made by you in a thread is not proof. Show me links to reliable research, or articles on said research.

As far the caucasian pgimentation, I'd go with the hypothesis that it is a side effect of interbreeding between our African ancestors and the neanderthals of Europe. After all, if the lack of neccesity outside of Africa were true, how come all the other ethnicities have darker skin than those so close to humanity's mother continent?

As for the existence of God, I ask you this: How do we know that the penholders got it right when they wrote down what happened? It could be argued as nothing more than a form of control.
Laughing gas has a very simple chemical structure, and is deadly in large doses. Even if you don't get a lethal dose, you're going to be disoriented, making it easier to get a lethal dose.

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Its in some book my history teacher said, like a monthly national geographic or somthing, if I see a link ill post it.

If it was all Chance and such, since the fact matter cannot be created nor destroyed wouldnt it mean that nothing should be here? Nature did do this to keep balance but the question is what started nature? a bunch of rocks and gases dont do anything but mix and cause solutions, if their was no bactieria to begin with scientifically their shouldnt be any after, we can only create life out of things that already exist. Even the Big bang theory cant explain where that tiny compact sphere of matter came from, all they say is it exploded and expanded into all of this, also you can say it wasnt designed that way but you dont really know for sure, it could very well be a divin design but we only see the literall and visible evidence, as we always do we want the phsyical evidence and proof,anything else to us we say is untrue.

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As far the caucasian pgimentation, I'd go with the hypothesis that it is a side effect of interbreeding between our African ancestors and the neanderthals of Europe. After all, if the lack of neccesity outside of Africa were true, how come all the other ethnicities have darker skin than those so close to humanity's mother continent?


do you mean lighter skined? if so it is because of the heat and conditions of the continent, as they spread and came to european continents it was colder and the need for darker skin was gone, another evolution, mutation or part of the divine design..or natural order

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As for the existence of God, I ask you this: How do we know that the penholders got it right when they wrote down what happened? It could be argued as nothing more than a form of control.


Also, that is true stories arent capable of staying exactly the same over a very long time, but thats were faith comes in and the preservation of your religon, Faith is vital for all religons for the god or gods want you to believe without all this phsyical evidence, its a choice for you to decide wether your creator is real or not.

If they were their for the events and truely believed in what they saw and what happend I doubt they would try and alter what their savior did, As for a form of control its not likely it would still be more of a way to keep humanity together, it is also very interesting how Gaberil (sp?) not only visited Jesus but also Muhamad, they both share similiarities and were both visited by the same angel, that should at least tell somone somthing is constant, somthing by the name of gabreil visits these people.

Also when Europeans came to conquer South america they believed in a virgin or somthing very similiar to mary before they were even invaded, thus it was somwhat easier for them to convert.

Their is no way to prove it all just based on things we can see, Faith and beliefe in these things are vital too. We have more evidence to prove Evolution than to prove Gravity, but we still believe in gravity more than people believe in evolution.

The thing about it all is everything can be argued, and no one usually ever wins unless they are the ones with the better military, as we have seen that in the past.
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The question is not, is there a god or higher power. But what are they . All religions link back to each other, as do myths. (like the monkey theory if you've ever watched discovery channel)

The concept of god is too conplex for us humans to even possible begin to understand, let alone the plans or events that map this out. When you can answer me, "What sound does yellow make?" Then I'll feel up to proving whether or not there is a god. And what they are.
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>> how would yellow make a sound? when its a refraction of light, even if it is energy their are different types, it being light energy makes it soundless doesnt it?.. I dont know XD *goes to bn*
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I'm not gonna pretend to know everything, just say what i believe. I'm a christian, and i'm really proud of it. There have been so many experences for me with God in my life for me to deny Him. Things in everyday life for me seem to be just things from Him that bring me closer to Him. The experiences i've hahd are what gives me my faith, and people probably need those for themselves.
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"What sound does yellow make?"

It's kinda like a sighing baby, or a calm breeze. Yellow has a calm, relaxed, cheerful look to it, and thus it would corelate to a sound that represents similiar feelings and concepts.
Laughing gas has a very simple chemical structure, and is deadly in large doses. Even if you don't get a lethal dose, you're going to be disoriented, making it easier to get a lethal dose.

I love alchemy.

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what i believe:
god has no meaning,only ot those who look up to him are just the ones who need help and answers in their lives
there are different religions based on different races.some are to so called spirits,while others of the undead.many countries dont believe in god,some do.and they also believe in the devil.let me tell you.does god or the devil do the most work in the world?
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my belif, god is fake, doesnt exist, and if he does exist then I hate him for creating this world, id rather not exist, and thier is a theory that we were created from multipliying molicules and id rather belive that than some made up god that you pray too every night and he doesnt do **** for you, I dont pray and I never will and my life couldnt be better, yes I know I said I hate this world and such, but its not my life that I hate, its the world and most of the people in it (if you knew me better you would understand I dont feel like explaining it)
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my belif, god is fake, doesnt exist, and if he does exist then I hate him for creating this world, id rather not exist, and thier is a theory that we were created from multipliying molicules and id rather belive that than some made up god that you pray too every night and he doesnt do **** for you, I dont pray and I never will and my life couldnt be better, yes I know I said I hate this world and such, but its not my life that I hate, its the world and most of the people in it (if you knew me better you would understand I dont feel like explaining it)

I believe that although religion is bull, the positive effects of being a part of a spiritually oriented community on one's health are real. It's been scientifically proven to have the same positive effect as not smoking. So, feel free to fight a higher power or whatever you do. If you value you're life, however, you'll find something else to believe in so you can be a part of something. I cannot exaggerate how much being alone kills.
Laughing gas has a very simple chemical structure, and is deadly in large doses. Even if you don't get a lethal dose, you're going to be disoriented, making it easier to get a lethal dose.

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This is crazy i was just looking at the news on the net and listening to the radio.And there is a report of an African Voo Doo lady trying to put a curse on god because there was a drought in the place where she lived.There was some other stuff that was going on also that she blamed on god,she said that god or who ever did this to land was cursed and was a truly cruel and fowl being.When the women went to sleep that night she never woke up because she died in her sleep.Doctors said she just died in her sleep and there was nothing more to the case.I'll try to find and post the link.

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I found the link for the women who died in her sleep.She was from Kenya any one can read this if they want i just found this report very interesting after hearing it on the radio.I'm not trying to imply anything just thought some one might find it interesting to read it.


Here it is -----> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11050266/
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you want me to find something to belive in? who the hell are you? im sorry I know thats rude but Im not gonna belive in something I dont belive in, im much happier being a non religious person, actualy im better off, way better off! and im not alone, my friends are just like me except for like 1 or 2 of them and you call that alone? im never alone im surrounded by freinds that love and care about me, theirs nothing more I can ask for
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My intent was not to be rude, just note that not believing in anything is proven to be detrimental to one's health. My apologies.

As for the psycho voodoo lady, I would have made her an argument for my case, but apparently she died of starvation.
Laughing gas has a very simple chemical structure, and is deadly in large doses. Even if you don't get a lethal dose, you're going to be disoriented, making it easier to get a lethal dose.

I love alchemy.

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