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the mercy of god
Topic Started: Mar 12 2006, 02:47 AM (1,067 Views)
Krazydog
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I say, if it can't be proven then it doesn't exist. But There's alot of contraversy about that. Maybe there is a god, maybe there isn't, its not something we can find out. But even if they are proof of the existance of god, such as similar religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam, they all worship the same god, yet they wage wars. Well if there is so much suffering, HOW MERCIFUL IS GOD??

If he's as merciful as everyone claims, why does he not stop wars? Why does his religions wage wars amongst each other if its for the same single being?

Why do we have to believe in his existance when all he seems to do is watch our small lives and do nothing? Maybe God exists, but the people who interpret it is a load of bull. Morals and shyt, well I'm sure the MORALS allow you to wage war. Its common sense. Religion is so corrupt nowadays, your no longer listening to voice of God, but the radical thoughts of humans who THINK they can talk to god.

Also, there was proof of evolution and if God truly created the world out of nothingness in 7 days, why do we find Dinosaur bones from 65 Million years ago? If I recall correctly, Adam and Eve didn't start 65 million years ago!

I'll believe in god... once he proves to us that he believes in us and shows himself. Besides, I think humans killed God a long time ago... We play god, we kill god, we kill each other.
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I have doubts that their were an adam and eve....
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I was just playing this game where' you're "God" and you smite people with lightning and earthquakes. After a couple thousand (they spawned fast) I got bored with smiting and quit. Perhaps "God" isn't above such boredom?
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Relax people like i said i was not trying to imply anything.Like i said in my second post i thought that some one might find it interesting to read nothing more.Religion has nothing to do with how you treat a person.If a person is cool they are cool simple enough to me.I'm peachy with the fact that someone are non religious i'v had a Girlfriend named Red that was non religious,religion has a very small meaning to me.I think everyone's the same once you get down to the basics.

Whoops i had to re read everything about 5 times to understand who was talking to who .


Nirako:Yeah it was kind of bizarro [sealab 2021] that she died the night she did the "curse".


I mean everybody goes through f**ked up s**t in their life.Sometimes i feel like i got the short side of the stick from all the messed up things that happened to me.The important thing is that you try to recover and move on in your life to me any way.
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I want religion to be a small part of my life...if better not in my life at all but its all over the d*** place out to get me and cut my d*** head off
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Apr 15 2006, 12:45 PM
I say, if it can't be proven then it doesn't exist. But There's alot of contraversy about that. Maybe there is a god, maybe there isn't, its not something we can find out. But even if they are proof of the existance of god, such as similar religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam, they all worship the same god, yet they wage wars. Well if there is so much suffering, HOW MERCIFUL IS GOD??

If he's as merciful as everyone claims, why does he not stop wars? Why does his religions wage wars amongst each other if its for the same single being?

Why do we have to believe in his existance when all he seems to do is watch our small lives and do nothing? Maybe God exists, but the people who interpret it is a load of bull. Morals and shyt, well I'm sure the MORALS allow you to wage war. Its common sense. Religion is so corrupt nowadays, your no longer listening to voice of God, but the radical thoughts of humans who THINK they can talk to god.

Also, there was proof of evolution and if God truly created the world out of nothingness in 7 days, why do we find Dinosaur bones from 65 Million years ago? If I recall correctly, Adam and Eve didn't start 65 million years ago!

I'll believe in god... once he proves to us that he believes in us and shows himself. Besides, I think humans killed God a long time ago... We play god, we kill god, we kill each other.

could God be Merciful enough to let us continue to exist? or is this the very punishment because of our sin? But isnt sin forgivable? or could God have ran out of forgiveness? in the end it says everything bad will happen, people stop believeing and the world practically falls appart, one way or another.. maybe we take it all to literally, what if its all in code, or metaphore (sp?) we are just to blind to really see it, we are flawed, maybe we lost the real religon a while back, things cant remain exactly the same for such long periods of time, but didnt we just find the book of Judus? now, how could that survive so long? chance and luck?

if things are done for us all the time we would never learn..its like spoiled children, yeah the people suffer but it teaches you too, and if its all true they get to be happy for all eternity.

The thing about religon is, its mostly based on Faith in christianity you have to believe, before you can see. Most people dont like that, or dont even bother giving it a chance..

the thing about the creation of the world, their is loopholes, He could have created it in 7 days, but he didnt have to make Adam and Eve the very next second, and a Day to God may be millions of years to us, they say when you die your relatives are still right their waiting, so apparantly time is much faster..

and if anything, we didnt kill him, just ran him off ..but their is to much here for me to think it all came out of nothing, how would anything exist if it wasnt put here? Matter Cannot be created nor destroid, so shouldnt their be nothing here? ever? it couldnt just be here since....since? even the big bang theory cant prove everything..cuz, what set that in motion? God may not be their visibly, but he could have given it all a push
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if their is a god out their, why did he create this world? for his own sick amusment I mean seriously...their seems to be no point if you think about it...or are we some cheap scence experiment that hes just gonna detroy or forget later?
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True Mustang it is based on faith but the same way people are intitled to thier own descions.That's why some people say that's why god created people to let them experience things in life and be able to make their own descions.It's like my father said to me if you beleive in him (god) you should be content with that,you know what you believe in and that's all you should really be concerned with.You see as far as i see things religion is supposed to be able to help to help/and or guide people in the right direction that's all there really is to it.If a person is already doing right or accept themself as they are that's all that should matter.You don't have to explain religion to some else because if they wanted to know/find out they would.That's what i think from a religious standpiont.

As far as what i believe in myself alone you don't have to have a religion.A person can go through life however they want to live.Why should religion be a big part of some one's life if that person is already happy and living life to the fullest.It's like if you make up your bed,go to work,go to school,do things around the house on your own without anybody having to tell you anything.Why should there be a rule or guidline about those things if you do them on your own.Theirs no point in it.Everybody no matter what age/race/religion/family background have the right to do what ever they want to in life.I know i don't care what religion or race any body is.I mean how much affect should it have on how nice or how they treat you.If you think strongly about anything you should follow it no matter what others say,it is your decision alone and nobody else's.But that's just me.


Xorital:you be what you want to be and don't let nobody change who you are.You are your own person have your own feelings and outlook on things.That's what makes everyone unique.You keep on doing whatever you want to do and keep doing right.You know in your mind what you are doing is right and that's all that should matter.
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thanks ^.^, lots of people try to ocnvert me and I dont like it (which is why my hate for religon raised) though I have religous freinds (who get pissed at me sometimes) they dont try to convert me which is aweosme ^.^
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No problem.Like i siad i don't believe in forcing things onto others.You are own person you can make whatever descion you want.It's funny because religion never bothered me even though i'm catholic since i was young.
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I used to have no problem with religious people until they started getting violant towards me and not accepting me, I grew to hate some of them but I try my best to accept them anyway, I dont try to convert them because they can belive what they wish but they just have it planted in their head that if your not christian/catholic or whatever then your an evil sinner XD
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Wow people started getting violant that's out of norm.So people started to treat you like an outcast and you started to hate religion and some religious people because the majority treated you like s**t.That's very understandable how you feel about some religious people now.Must of the hardcore religious people i know the most they try to do is give that person a little booklet,or a small bible and where a church is located.It's good that you try to get along with other people.If you don't mind the question where do you live?Because it sounds really odd how they treat people that are different.
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yeah thats not normal, just keep in mind the people that are truely into christianity wouldnt force you, they would respect you. and heres somthing to make you feel better XD! truth is, even with christianity, we ourselvs are "evil sinners"..everyone sins, they cant point fingers, and they shouldn't :lol:
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i kinda feel like the same as you..so sorry if i say this to piss people off..but i rather say we arent supposed to exist...seriously,games make me doubt if we were ment to exist by our own greed...
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yea we are simulare.....and I live in orlando florida
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God is very merciful. No matter what you do he'll forgive you. Simple enough! God can forgive any sin.Why? I have no idea that's how loving he is.Yes, I do get tired of what i believe sometimes but in the end i appreciate it. I think in the end it's all about faith.

It's hard for me to get into conversations about God. Even though i'm christian I end up getting violent with a friend O.o .
(Short version:She tried to get me into what she believed and i tried to get her into what i believed and it ended up being a fist fight O.O so now we try and not talk about our religons)
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thanks for proving my point.
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Yeah, Ukara and I really do try and avoid religious debates. It is weird though. I am Christian like Ukara, however, we are different types of religion. She is strict Gospel, while I'm a loose Catholic. Amazing, we are both pretty much the same religion, but we are still at each other's throats for minor things.

Well, that just shows humans will fight over anything, but as long as you avoid that topic that really ticks you off, you can still be friends.
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Yeah, Ukara and I really do try and avoid religious debates.  It is weird though.  I am Christian like Ukara, however, we are different types of religion.  She is strict Gospel, while I'm a loose Catholic.  Amazing, we are both pretty much the same religion, but we are still at each other's throats for minor things. 

Well, that just shows humans will fight over anything, but as long as you avoid that topic that really ticks you off, you can still be friends.


Yeah, and for some reason we are best friends. The only way to be friends with a person that believes in something different or doesn't believe at all is to just stay away from ALL religous topics because a fight or a very annoying discussion will break out. By the way not all religous people are violent. What made me and Dread mainly get into the fight was that we were both sortta mad that day so that's why it turned into a fight but if someone doesn't want to change that's their desicion not anybody else's.
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everyones religion is the same just worshiped difforently
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