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| Monchhichi | Apr 11 2006, 11:21 PM Post #1 |
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Suicide - The ending of life. Suicide is just not right in my opinion. For those who believe in heaven and hell, I have heard that if you commit suicide, you go to hell. It's a sin to commit suicide. But is it really? I have no idea. Suicide hurts. Yes, it ends all things. But, what about the people around you? They will get hurt. Then again, if you want to commit suicide and hurt the people around you, go right ahead. People can make their own decisions, no matter if they are negative or positive. If someone around me choose suicide, I would respect that. Cutting - It's a way to escape. Yes, just like suicide, it's bad for you. Yet again, it's a choice. But seriously, cutting is just releasing your pain. My mother talks to me about it a lot of times. She told me that cutters like the pain while cutting. It helps them to get their stress out. Personally, I have a few friends that cut themselves, I don't really care about it. Cutting is a habit. If they can't stop, they can't. I won't stop them. They can stop whenever they want. Depression - Depression does not lead to cutting, and cutting does not lead to suicide. They are all different things. There are people that cut themselves, then, commit suicide. But those are rare cases. Instead of suicide, they cut. Instead of cutting, they show depression. (Although a lot of times, cutters show depression also.) Depress. Sadness. That is part of humans' emotions. We are allow to show it. But sometimes, I just think that people, especially teenagers, are overusing it. Teen depression. They cut themselves because of some reasons. But what they don't realize is that, they aren't the worst cases in the world. There are so many people out there that are so much worst. So, why waste your time/childhood being unhappy? Live. Well, your opinions on this? |
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| Dark General | Apr 12 2006, 02:48 AM Post #2 |
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Nicely put if i say so myself.I believe suicide is just a quick way out of things people do it because they are not strong enough to take the pain/and or suffering they think they are going through.IN long term they are being selfish only thinking about themselfs and no one else [i think the same way of people who use drugs].I can't really look at it from a religeous standpoint because it dosen't matter what religon you are you are still commiting the act of suicide. Cutting i believe is somewhat more difficult to explain.You are right those people do choose to cut themselves to show and relieve their pain in some type of manor.While it is not as extreme as suicide it is a type of confinment for the person.I belive you have a chioce wether to do something or not no one is forcing that particular person into something of that matter.But them they selves is putting all the weight on themselfs.I had a girlfriend who was suicidle and used to cut herslf.When we talked it was more of the matter of her thinking in a certain way that made things a bit unbearable for her.But i confinced her it's not really worth it Life will throw you a curve ball once in a while to see how you handle it.It's like you said a person can stop if they want to it's just a matter of mindset and how bad you want to make things "Right". Depression is a way a person express how they feel.Sometimes they let it control them it look at everything from a sad/depressing/bad worst viewpoint instead of looking at every thing they have going for them.When people think they are doing so bad and become depressed that is because they are only comparing themselves to the people/person/group around them.But fail to relize that even the people who seems to be the most upbeat/best/popular/happy have issues and other things to endore it just that they put up a mirage to conceal how they feel and how they are doing from fear of being the odd man out or different from every one else. The real "Truth" is that evey one has things they have to deal with wether it be personal or public,but the "key" is to try to keep going it's not about what you have,who likes you,what people think.It's about how you feel and what you have accomplished,most people have peoplethat care about them and have a bunch of things going for them it's just a matter of that person relizing that fact for themselfs. |
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| Xorital | Apr 12 2006, 02:04 PM Post #3 |
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I humbly request that people who commit suicide should not be spoken illy, my freind Jed kent commited suicide I still feel the effects of it and he was a great freind and I really dont like it when does speak bad of him or of what he did so just please dont |
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| Monchhichi | Apr 12 2006, 09:07 PM Post #4 |
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Aw, I am sorry about that. You know what is one of the things that I hate? Teenagers committing suicide because of love relationships. Seriously, if you can't have that boy/girl, fine. It's not the end of the world. You can always find another person. No need for suicide or cutting. |
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| Lola Ray | Apr 12 2006, 09:36 PM Post #5 |
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My best friend two years ago almost committed suicide, and honestly, to know she was going to do it and plan on me finding her admits her own pool of blood... It broke me, it destroyed me, and made me feel so much sadness beyond belief. When she told me in a anxious manner of how she had considered suicide an option in her life as a solution to her problems, I was shocked. I will not tell them on here though. She is that best friend who you trust your life with, and feel like you know from the inside and out. She is my soul sister, and I couldn't live without her. It's why I'm proud to say that she is alive and happier than ever. What I have learned throughout all that, is that you can choose to end your life anytime, but it takes a lot of bravery and courage to live. It's harder to live.. A LOT of people cut themselves.. And sometimes I find it to be it is because of such careless and ignorant reasons. Never mind, I’m not going to comment on it anymore because I do not want to say something that just may be stereotypical in my belief. I do not know what it is like to cut yourself, I have never done it, that is one reason why I cannot say what should and shouldn’t be right about it, because I have no idea how it feels, makes you feel better/worse, or just comforts you in some way that is “supposed” to. I think though… that is like an urge you cannot stop. Like when you have an itch on your arm, or your head and you cannot just ignore it, and you just have to scratch it… I think cutting/self mutilation in probably in the same concept… But then again I’m not sure. That is just how I think of it sometimes… Depression is a normal human emotion like happiness and anger. We all feel it at some point or another, some just feel it deeper and for a much longer time because of an experience they go through and what effect it may have on them. What helped me through my worst phase of depression (someone close to me died) was my friends and my mother. I think interaction with others close to you and those who love you, getting that support that you at the time cannot give yourself since you are so vulnerable, really helps in such a good way. It helped me more than I thought it ever could. |
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| Dark General | Apr 13 2006, 02:28 AM Post #6 |
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Sorry if i might have offended anyone but i ususally feel strong about certain situations and vioce my opionion in a harse mannor sometimes.And i don't really mean to speak illy of anyone who has passed away whether it be natural,murder,or suicide.That's just how i feel to a certain degree on suicide [along with drug use].I myself have had a lot of bad things happen to me and the people around me but i try not to let it hold me down,these things i say to myself is a part of life and i myself personally have to try and get over it.With a topic as deep as this it is hard to try to vioce your thoughts without stepping on too many toes.But like i said i'm sorry for anybody i miht have offended. What i have come to terms with is that things happen in life some things you have no control over.Sometimes you might feel down or depressed but you have to try to keep on movin ahead.I'v learned thin with the various things that have happened to me over time.People deal with things in a different way what is right to you is not always right to someone else.Sometimes i have to step back and think to myself what if and am I being to harse,am i being cold hearted,do i really know the extint of things.I can only say what i feel and how i look at things in life [i'm talking about everything in general]. |
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| Xorital | Apr 13 2006, 02:07 PM Post #7 |
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its ok I speak harshly when it comes to religion because I hate it (which is why alot of christians and such hate the hell outta me) but yea suicide and such is difforent, I dont think people should cut themselves my opinion it doesnt seem right but I wouldnt judge people who do so. Depression I feel it almost everyday, I always feel responsible for my friends death, my freinds are trying to help me stop thinking that way but I just cant, I was one of the last persons that talked to him and I felt horrible I didnt help him with his problem before it was too late. suicide I thought of a few times because of the people around me (not my freinds I mean the cruel people), I learned to deal with it, people still give me a hard time today, but the only hting stoping me from eaither killing myself or someone else is my friends and my girlfreind, iv only known one person who commited suicide like iv already said jed kent, even now I wish I coulda done something. |
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| xGhostx | Apr 13 2006, 04:47 PM Post #8 |
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I don't really know if I'm going to be totally wrong here or anything but.. I have to dissagree about some things.. Suicide - yes, its death and its sad, its when they are lost and hurting.. but I dont think they see the gravity of it, they are dead, gone. forever. Do they understand that? I think they don't, because if they really did..then I don't think as many would really try to commit suicide. Also, it being selfish.. I have met somone who has thought about it, when ever things fall apart. She can justify it so it is the most selfless act in the world, has every excuse and is ready to argue over it too, she normally wins, but in the end she never does kill herself [thank God] Cutting - is difficult to explain, it is an outlet for stress and as I have been told gets your mind off of things. The problem with this is it gets to be an addiction, and like addictions the more you do it the more your obsessed, and also the more extreme it gets, so you feel the same "lift" you did the first time, so I dissagree with letting the people you know do that and saying its ok I respect it, to me thats called ignoring the problem, doing exactly what they are doing. If they wanted to stop, I dont think it would be as easy as you claim either, because like habbits and addictions, their hard to break. Depression - Another, yes it is the mindset and outward showing of the ultimate sadness, but thats just what it is. you cant honestly say depression is an every day feeling, because its not, it is the extreme of sadness, it is the constant mindset of negativity and sorrow, which all it does is condem/curse you and your attitude/personality. and it is hard to get out of, even with the medicens they have. Also, I must dissagree, once again, when you say none of these lead to the other, because actually in most cases they do. True they are all each different ways of expressing the problem, they are more of a stage type, than individual non-linked things. Depression, causes the self pity, shame and horrible self esteem, which infact would lead to cutting if you can find it fit in your mind to punish yourself, or infact get your mind off of this self pity, and self pursecution. After that does not work, or only does for a certain amount of time, suicide is the next choice, sounds nice to them. no worries, this "horrible cruel world" will be gone, and in most peoples beliefes you will be happy, peacefull etc.etc. Sounds like a good and easy way out to them, right? especially when they are as lost as they are. so, I do not really agree with "respecting" what they do, especially if you know they are doing it. because you should know in the end all it does is cause them, and you more pain.. Again, sorry if this seemed totally wrong or mean..I just wanted to say this.. |
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| Xorital | Apr 13 2006, 04:59 PM Post #9 |
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suicide is nothing to respect but you gotta be brave to do it....but still it doesnt change the fact that their gone forever. |
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| Krazydog | Apr 13 2006, 05:53 PM Post #10 |
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Bravery in suicide? More like cowardice. It's selfish escape. You think your releasing yourself, but in reality your just hurting those around you... selfish. Even sacrificing your own life for someone is not something to be proud of after death... but atleast then, you protected something with your life. Making it not a COMPLETE waste. People don't realize that Death is the dead end. You don't get a second chance to live. You die, your dead... All you find in suicide is not only grief... but people pity you. And the worst feeling in the world is being pitied... cuz then, you feel helpless and when your dead? You can't prove their pity wrong. Its just done. |
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Don't touch me, I'm dangerous. I'm not Weird, I perfer to be called ABSTRACT! I traded my soul for Pudding xD. And I sold my sanity on Ebay =P $2.50 Talk about crazy deals!!! Sanity is overrated, Kraziness is Perfect, and Insanity is Eternal <3 | |
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| xGhostx | Apr 13 2006, 06:02 PM Post #11 |
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XD i see similiarities..w00t also, i too dissagree with calling it brave, its more a desperate escape, a blind act, the fastest and most assured way to end it, your positive if you do this it will be over, its nothing like going through a course, where you may indeed fall down again.. |
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| Lola Ray | Apr 13 2006, 06:06 PM Post #12 |
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Yes, suicide is a very cowardice thing to do to escape problems and life itself. It takes much more courage and bravery to live and face your fears the strongest you can, and with the people who you love and trust will be on your side to help. |
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| Yuzu-chan | Apr 13 2006, 06:24 PM Post #13 |
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I don't believe in suicide. There's better ways to resolve problems like talking to someone or beating up people. (eh....) Cutting? just a way to take off pain and not think about it. Its a pointless waste of time to me. Depression happens to everyone, even me. =D |
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| Xorital | Apr 13 2006, 08:09 PM Post #14 |
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I know it takes guts to commit suicide stop speaking illy of it, I used to be depressed horribly depressed I used to want to die, I used to try but I couldnt because I was the coward!, but im glad I didnt do it. |
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| Krazydog | Apr 13 2006, 08:13 PM Post #15 |
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If you feel like cutting yourself, or commiting suicide, my suggestion? DRAW A PICTURE! GO RUN OUTSIDE LIKE CRAZY! DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE TO BLOW OFF SOME DEPRESSED AND SUICIDAL FEELINGS! If you have time to be depressed, you have time to do SOMETHING! GO GO GO! Express all that emotion WAHAHAHAAH <--- I say this, cuz I'm a carefree fool. Note! People DID get hurt in the making of her. Be afraid... |
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Don't touch me, I'm dangerous. I'm not Weird, I perfer to be called ABSTRACT! I traded my soul for Pudding xD. And I sold my sanity on Ebay =P $2.50 Talk about crazy deals!!! Sanity is overrated, Kraziness is Perfect, and Insanity is Eternal <3 | |
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| Xorital | Apr 13 2006, 08:17 PM Post #16 |
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lol funny |
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| Krazydog | Apr 13 2006, 08:31 PM Post #17 |
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Nah, just foolish. But seriously, your alive now. You might as well have some impact on the world. Or atleast make the best of it... why would you want to die? You'll be more depressed and lonely... you'll end it all, but what's the point? You'll find even greater despair and regret. And many times, you regret suicide when it happens. So don't do it. You hurt yourself, you hurt others, you hurt your very purpose in life. K|R|A|Z|Y|D|O|G My anti drug and Anti suicide x] |
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Don't touch me, I'm dangerous. I'm not Weird, I perfer to be called ABSTRACT! I traded my soul for Pudding xD. And I sold my sanity on Ebay =P $2.50 Talk about crazy deals!!! Sanity is overrated, Kraziness is Perfect, and Insanity is Eternal <3 | |
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| Dread | Apr 13 2006, 10:37 PM Post #18 |
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Suicide I feel bad for people who commit Suicide. They all go to Hell after they die. To me, it is just sad. It was a life that was wasted, because other people drove them over the edge, made them blind to those who really cared about them, and so much more. Cutting My friend does it. I know she isn't lying either. She has shown me her scars. She also told me she stopped, only to find out last month she has been doing it again. Her father has recently found her doing it, and a couple of weeks ago, she has been sent to a hospital. I miss her, she was a really nice person. The only reason I think she cuts herself is because her father is a control freak and is never there, and her mother is in a crazy hospital. Depression Depression, for me, was a test. It was a test to see if I was strong enough to go through it and not care what other people say. I have gone through that stage last year, and I actually learned stuff from it. I now understand people and the world in general better now. It helped me. Which is really weird, but it has that effect on some people, like me and my friend. |
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| Dark General | Apr 14 2006, 03:38 AM Post #19 |
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Yeah i'm like that also,i don't call that foolish i call that "Outspoken" and "free willed".I'm catholic and i don't believe if you commit suicide you go to hell.I see everything as a chioce you can make.I believe you CAN'T FORCE ANYBODY INTO DOING SOMETHING no matter how hard you try a person has to be willing to accept help [i'm talking in general].I believe that religion is not suppose to be pressed on to someone else .A person has to make his/her own chioces no matter what the situation is.But that is just me,and i feel that an indivdual is person nothing more religion has very little to do with the decisions i make and how i think. Suicide is a selfish act.No matter how many ways you think it's correct and help things it's not.When you think your are freeing yourself or lessing the burden on people all that person cause is pity/depression/loss of self of the people who cared for them.It don't take guts to commit suicide.All it takes is a certain mindset if you really think your life is worthless then you can take your own life without a second thought.Living as someone stated is harder than then to end things.The answear is that death is the end nothing more nothing less once you are gone you can't tell everyone you loved you are sorry or that it was not their fault.Their is no clarification on the end only nothingness.There's no waking up and no coming back. Depression is a form of absolute sadness.Depressions is just another way for someone to deal with something/someone in their life.Instead of trying to look forward or think about the better things in life to distract theyselfs from all the sadness they dig themselfs into a place where nothing can be changed and nothing or no one can progress.They baer all their burdens on themselfs and take blame for everything.It's never the same as someone thinks.All some one needs is helping hand and an open mind to escape from depression. |
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| Mistral K | Apr 14 2006, 04:46 PM Post #20 |
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how is suicide selfish? i dont really see anything wrong with it, one person dying is just a small thing in this world. and why would you go to hell for commiting suicide, thats just stupid. cutting is kinda somthin i am used too, seeing as many of the people around me do it, i have only done it a couple times, my parents said they would take away my computer if i kept doing it though, so i had to stop.( i'm waayyy to obbsessive over the computer) depreesion is yet another problem in life, ut people get over it most of the time, and when they dont, that sucks. not much to do bout it. there are some people that just cant get out of depression. |
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