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Religions have gone to far
Topic Started: May 20 2006, 09:37 AM (1,116 Views)
Xorital
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I just cant stand it anymore even my religious freinds are starting to turn aginst me, yesterday 2 christians just out of nowear started to harass me into beliving in god and such and when I told them god is full of crap and such my catholic freind started defending them it was a freaken 3 on one I couldnt win that, its just going to far and I dont know what to do anymore, please help
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And you just realized that?...

It has been that way for centuries now. Humans fight over religions, because they believe in what they believe in. They think their religion is "the right one". Like in your situaution, others make fun of those who do on believe in their regligions. It's not right, everyone knows that, but do they still do it? Yes. All the religions have taught people to "live in peace". Humans simply cannot do that. Sometimes, they want to show others how their religion is the best so much that they would forget the simple rules of religion. It's a sin. How can they possiblely say they are religious when they don't even understand the meaning of peace?...


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yesterday 2 christians just out of nowear started to harass me into beliving in god and such and when I told them god is full of crap and such my catholic freind started defending them it was a freaken 3 on one I couldnt win that


Boy, no matter how much you hate religions or don't believe in them, you can't say "God is full of crap". Yes, respecting the religion. If you don't want to respect the religion because you don't believe in it, fine. But at least, respect those who do. They believe in god, and they want you to respect their believes. It's okay to let them "win". Really, it doesn't matter. NEVER again say that "God is crap" in front of people like that. It's disrespectful. I am no religious, yet, I think it's very insulting for you to say that.

Religions were first born to make us happy, to "maintain" peace. However, that purpose only lasted for a while. Religions begin to betray humans, mainly because, humans went against the rules of it.

It's always like that, because this is life. Just got to deal with it.
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I lost control when I said that even though I mean it with all my heart I really do!, if that jerk exists im going santanist, but I seriously doubt he does, but im tired of it, I already realized how aweful ''religious'' people are but its just going to far its got twice as worse at my school
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Everyone has their own beliefs, if you're against those that's fine, but again it's THEIR life, and THEIR belief. Let them live and continue believing in that. We err it's human , but remember there is no right or wrong, so why bother argueing a lost cause. Its a never ending cycle, come to terms with what you believe in, and be at peace. Whatever that belief may be. I know I say that word too many times in this short paragraph, its the ability to put your trust in something, beyond what you know, beyond yourself. It really shouldn't matter what others think, it shouldn't effect you or the way you live your life, thats all the help i can give.
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something happend to me like that once, my freind asked me if i wanted to go to church him him and i said ill pass... he asked me why and i said i wasnt christian, and for the next week he told me about how god is good, and i was stupid to not beleive in god, but he crossed it when he said that im not a christian and im going to hell, i finnaly screamed in his face "STOP TRYING TO PUSH YOUR f**kING RELIGION ON ME!!!" that shut him up for a while
Accually FMA related: Envy calls Pride a Puppet, The Dante prevokes Envy to get mad and go try to kill Ed and Al... Pride stands there probably thinking "Now who's the puppet you cross-dressing palm tree?"
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christians need to stop it, I only argue with them cause they start it
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lol, in a non-offancive way
Accually FMA related: Envy calls Pride a Puppet, The Dante prevokes Envy to get mad and go try to kill Ed and Al... Pride stands there probably thinking "Now who's the puppet you cross-dressing palm tree?"
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Well, in that case, there's one thing you certainly can say - "I respect your religion and beliefs, please respect mine." That's what I would say. If a Christian or anyone comes up to you and makes you want to be a part of their beliefs, just make them understand that you believe in what you believe in [[Which you don't believe in any religion]], they believe in whatever they believe in, and we should all respect each other.

Say it in a nice way, please. It hurts to hear it in a "not-so-nice" way.
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Not all christians is like that. You know what's funny now that i think about everytime i go to church (which is not that often) i'm always the only one there heh. It's Just that some people always want to "Help" you and over do it in turn. The whole "You are going to hell because you are not christian" is just a way to try to get people to convert. I don't believe that's true. Some things i believe in other things i don'tand some i'm not sure on. Those commercials where they try to get you to buy the "holy water" i don't believe in that. I think that's just a ruse to get your money, however i do believed in being "Healed" by god (and i have a good reason why but i won't dive into that because you probley heard enough of that already). Even though i know to say "Get the f**k out of my face" is a harsh way to say "i don't want to hear you try to convice me to turn to your religion". I do know that's the only way sometimes to get your point across because let's face it some people won't take no for an answear.

All in all i'll just say choose your friends wisely. And there's a thin line between Friends and a person you socialize with. If they not accepting who you are then they are not your real friends. I feel like i'm forgeting something......... Oh yeah please don't put all Christians in the same boat because there's different individuals and not all of them is trying to convert you.
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What Dark General said was true about not putting all Christians in the same boat. Now i feel bad for being christian. >>;

Plus, you can't say that god is full of crap in front of them. Try to respect them and not tell them that, maybe they wouldn't know that you don't believe in god and such. My religion gives me something to actually hope for (I keep hoping that one day i can go to heaven and I want to believe that my soul actually lives on and doesn't go to just some dark place) and maybe some people think like that but if you say something bad about their religion, their hopes might get crushed (As mine just had) I respect your religion of not believing in god, I swear i do. (My friend doesn't believe in god either)

Tell them that you simply don't believe in their religion and tell them that you're not making fun of it. If you believe in something, stick to it. ><; I think your friend only tries to convert you to Christian because they want to share their belief with you and not anything mean. (Because they wouldn't be your friend if they meant something mean about it)

Oh, and um... please don't say Religious people have gone too far. ><;; its like blaming some innocent people.
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Believe me, Religions have a tendency to do that, and there are radicalists and non-radicalists. Though it has been said that coercion (forcing one's religion to another) is considered a sin. However, you have to respect different religion, for all of them have good qualities to them as well as bad.

And all religions had a purpose to maintain order and in the beginning, their intentions were good. I like Christianity's many symbols and cultures, though I do believe that its not a great religion morally. Islam was a great religion that was passed as bringing prosperity in the middle east, but terror the next.

Every Religion has its faults. However, even though I am not religious myself, I too would be insulted because for a long time my family was christian. I just rationalize it and it is your freedom to believe what you want, but you don't go around insulting it. Use Reasoning instead.
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Yeah, even some Christians do the same thing to their own. Hell, Ukara and I are both Christian, but two different types. I'm a loose Catholic, while she is a somwhat strict Gospel. She sometimes tries to force her type of Christianity on me. For example, she says that the Bible states you have to wear long skirts if you are a girl. I do not believe that, and wear pants as much as I want. Heck, you guys would never see me wearing a skirt. When this issue comes up, she always say that if you reject one part of the Bible you reject the whole thing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So don't worry, Religions even bully their own kind.
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im sorry I didnt mean to blame the innocent christians that arent like the ones im talking about, I have a christian freind that does understand me and such anyway, I do try to tell them nicley infact I start off nicley when they dont stop thats when I get into a very angery argumentitive type.
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Three against one hm? Something similar like that happened to me but I kept repeating the same things. He IS full of crap and there are no facts to back him up. U.U I tell them that and they leave me alone sometimes.
Just ignore them is all I can say to you.
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its really hard to but I try V.V
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*sigh* I gave you my advice find what you want to believe in and stick to it it shouldn't matter what others do say or believe in. There is no proof for nor against God, so really its all a matter of what you think and/or feel.
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I did find what I belive in, I belive in nothing and im keeping it that way.
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Three against one hm? Something similar like that happened to me but I kept repeating the same things. He IS full of crap and there are no facts to back him up. U.U I tell them that and they leave me alone sometimes.
Just ignore them is all I can say to you.

What?? I'm lost......Three agaist one??? How was/is it three agaist one??
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my catholic freind and 2 other christians, 3 aginst 1...
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Ouch. 3 on 1...

Like others have said, you should respect religious people and their beliefs. Personally I'm not very religious at all, but I do respect the fact that there are other people in the world with beliefs that differ from mine...most of the time anyway. And like Monchhichi said, you shouldn't say god is full of crap. I don't believe in him either but if I were you I would just either ignore those people, or say what they wanna hear. "Yeah, I agree completely."
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