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| Xorital | May 28 2006, 11:25 AM Post #21 |
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id sooner die than agree with thos morons who try to force crap on me |
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| iam_legion | May 29 2006, 06:37 PM Post #22 |
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If they get on you again ask them why their god allows the killing of innocent children then show them this verse. "The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords." (Hosea 13:16 NLT) Then show them this verse that says children are not punished for the sins of the parents. "The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him."(Ezekiel 18:20 NIV) Then if you want to then show them this verse that Contradicts the verse above. "You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,"(Exodus 20:5 NIV) Most likely this will stop them in their tracks. |
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Mark 5:9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. | |
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| Xorital | May 29 2006, 08:58 PM Post #23 |
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you expect me to remember thos? |
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| iam_legion | May 30 2006, 01:19 PM Post #24 |
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Well you don't have to memorize word for word just the the verse number and what each one is about. You could easily wright down the verse number and a brief description on something you have with you all the time. I debate a lot with christians so I know a lot of these by heart. I really have no life. But if you want to study up so next time you can hold your end then here's a good site: http://www.evilbible.com/
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Mark 5:9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. | |
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| Dark General | May 31 2006, 06:39 AM Post #25 |
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Interesting Website name. And when i debate I don't like to get into religious things/sayings i don't really find it right to bring in believes and interchange it with facts. But anyway you are right Xorital to not give into them and change your opinion just to make them leave you alone. Maybe when graduate high school you might want to concsider moveing to get away from people trying to convert you all the time. |
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| Xorital | May 31 2006, 08:11 AM Post #26 |
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yea I already have plans to move when I graduate |
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| Dark General | Jun 1 2006, 03:25 AM Post #27 |
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Well that's a good idea Xorital. |
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| Xorital | Jun 1 2006, 02:47 PM Post #28 |
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uh huh *just 3 years to go
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| Dark General | Jun 2 2006, 03:21 AM Post #29 |
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Wow. You just started high school i take it.Well hopefully things will lighten up untill the time you graduate. |
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| Xorital | Jun 2 2006, 01:27 PM Post #30 |
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i hope so too |
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| SilentWanderer | Sep 5 2006, 08:46 AM Post #31 |
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Yeah, try not to sterotype all christians, because some are different and respect people like me. Something like that happened to me once. I was at my house and 2 women that were "witnessing" on our street and they came to our house. nobody was home except for me and stupid me I opened the door and they were friendly at first they were all like here is a track you need to get saved god doesn't like you if you don't become their religon. and i was like (exact words) god loves everyone so don't give me that crap. and they were started yelling and i guess praying and they were shoving their bible in my face so eventually they stopped and i was like "Okay you have one minute to get off my property or i'm calling the cops for harassment." They just stood their and prayed again so i went and got the phone and said 5,4,3,2, and they went running. But as for me i'm more spiritual than religous, religon causes to many conflicts that's why i'm like if god said he loves everyone, than he loves everyone theirs no need for religon because their is no right religon that's why i'm spiritual |
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| Dark General | Sep 5 2006, 10:39 AM Post #32 |
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I don't like it when people knock on my door honestly to get me to change religion. One thing comes to my mind "Don't you think if i REALLY wanted to change i would have?" but that dosn't really matter does it. I think every person has a right to believe what they want to believe but not force it on others. That's usually introsive and annoying to the other party. And i don't like generilization/ stereotypes of a certain type of people be it skin color, background, or religious workings. You just can't really pin a entire group of people into any catergory based on small witnesses to events. |
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| Avarice | Oct 2 2006, 05:46 PM Post #33 |
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i can't help but find that hypocritical...... SERIOUSLY.... you piss and moan about how all of the 'christians' don't respect your opinions and stuff, and you go and post that stuff? wow. you don't have to agree with someone, but you should respect their opinions. just for the hell of saying it, i'm deeply religious, and i have never tried pushing my beleif on ANYONE. i was freinds with a satanic chick, but she respected my beleif and although i didn't agree with hers, i was able to look past it and recognize her for the person she was. you complain about people not respecting what you have to say? try respecting them. and if they still aren't respectfull, you can at least say that you were more mature about it and such. and you know something? my religious beleifs are CONSTANTLY being insulted, and mocked. and i have some associates that are constantly insulting me about beleiving in God. but hey, i don't run around complaining about it now do i? nor do i sit there and throw all of them in the same boat. people (in general, it goes both ways) are to bias.. if people just respected each other we'd all get along fine, but NOOO thats so d*** horrible to think about. btw, if a christian bothers you, try and say something like this "i thought God is about love? yet you sit there and critisize me?" i dunno something like that.. jsut remind them that they are supposed to be caring to all individuals and aren't supposed to pass judgement on others regardless of what you might be "doing wrong" or whatever they're complaining about. ... i know that insulting anyones beleif just makes things worse. remind them of why they're a christian. and if they really do beleive in God and follow the bible, they'll take what you say to heart and leave you alone. also, i only get offended by this because it doesn't seem to matter how much respect i give others, they never pay it back. i'm sorry if i offended anyone, but thats just how i feel. take me and my one friend for instance; she doesn't beleive in anything really, she's a vegetarian. i'm really religious, i can't live without meat. those was just SOME examples but we still manage to not get into any fights... even though, i'm constantly hearing her say, "God is f***ing stupid" and that kinda thing.. i'll admit, this one time i did kinda yell something back at her, but that was only because she wouldn't stop insulting me. and i did appologize for it afterwards.. even though it didn't make any difference..... the point is, we disagree on quite a bit.. basically everything actually.... but yet, we aren't constantly fighting.. we're getting along because we're looking pass the differences.. i dunno...i'll shut up now.. ......yeah... just to let you know, i won't be posting in this topic to much so yeah.. i'm expecting to get alot of crap over this...... (also sorry about grammar and stuff) |
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| iam_legion | Oct 2 2006, 06:47 PM Post #34 |
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1. I never complained that christians don't respect my opinions. Even thow you repeat the same assertion a couple times 2. Respect is earned, and I don't have to respect anyones crazzy ideas or opinions. 3. I didn't lump all christians together. 4. I'm a debater, thats what I like to do. If I just said I respect your opinions and lets not fight about them, that would be a horrible debate. 5. I was only giving some tips to a kid tired of some christians harassing him. If you really think saying "i thought God is about love? yet you sit there and critisize me?" would work then you have been sheltered from the real world kid. |
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Mark 5:9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. | |
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| Avarice | Oct 2 2006, 07:21 PM Post #35 |
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you're right. you didn't lump them all together and you weren't complaining. i was venting about the people that do. i didn't really set lines in between what i was saying in response to that link thingy and what i had to say about some other people. i appologize for that, i should have been more clear about that part... you debat, thats cool.. i've never really gotten far with that.. so, whatever works i supose. i'm more of a pacifist, so thats why i never realy got into it. i didn't say that saying that line would work all the time.. its obviously not going to work for those pig-headed people that don't listen. .. and i wasn't realy sheltered at all .. i was just making something up on the spot.. but oh well i guess. not the first time i've made myself sound like an idiot. *what else is new >>* ....i'll just stop talking now.. |
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| Dark General | Oct 4 2006, 12:51 PM Post #36 |
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Sorry to butt in but i couldn't help myself..... 1: I know you wern't saying anything of the nature of Christian people not respecting your opinions and you debate with them sometimes. But one thing dosn't exactly fit in place to bring up someone's religious workings and bring it into a arguement is kind of under handed because it wouldn't have no revelance to the arguement.... And only some people repeat things to get their point across to otherwise closed minded people. 2: Respect is earned i agree with you but it dosn't warrant a assualt on someone's believes in ANYTHING not just god or religion to just assualt them with verbal "disagreements" just because it might sound a bit out there to YOU dosn't really say much for your character... 3: you didn't lump all christians together and i respect you somewhat for that. 4: It would make for a horrible debate....... that is if she was actually looking for an altercation of some sort. I see it as only pointing out something that bothered her nothing more nothing less. 5: mmmmm, to say that particular response wouldn't work in the "real world" as you put it is a opinion of yours that i don't agree with. I've said that to a couple of people and it works, you see dealing with different people in a different environment warrents a different response. To sit here and say that she has been sheltered from your version of the "real world" is a false assumption on your part to me. Just because it might not work in your hostile envirnment dosn't mean it wouldn't work anywhere. I thought i should just comment on that... |
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| iam_legion | Oct 4 2006, 02:02 PM Post #37 |
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1. Most of the debates deals with their religion. And its not underhanded to bring up what they believe because in most topics what they are arguing for stems from their beliefs. 2. I don't go on assaults of others beliefs. Just saying someones beliefs are stupid and and going on isn't fun. Its more fun to rip their arguments to little bits and watch them go down in flames. Destroy someones beliefs with facts and logic is more enjoyable. That may sound mean to you but the others participate of their free will and most times are looking to destroy my beliefs as well. Its all in good fun. If they can't handle their beliefs being ridiculed then it really shows how they aren't that stable in the first place. 4. She was saying to me(or all of you I suppose. I have no clue who she's talking to anymore) that I shouldn't fight about peoples opinions and respect them. I am applying it to me, not her. 5. I applied her response to what the first kid is going through. I didn't say it would never work. She wasn't counting in whats really was happening. I was showing him/her a way to keep his end when they start on him. |
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| Xorital | Nov 25 2006, 07:31 AM Post #38 |
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wow its been a while since iv been here, the whole thing about people knocking on your doors thats happen to me before too, though I didnt answer cause I knew what it was about (the way they were dressed) |
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| Dark General | Nov 25 2006, 05:22 PM Post #39 |
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Wow, i didn't think you would return Xorital so how have you been? And yes i don't like when they knock on my door, it always seems like it's when i'm trying to take a nap or when i'm doing something important.... |
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| Aly | Nov 25 2006, 05:40 PM Post #40 |
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...Do you know how many Christians can see this? Not to be mean or anything but...Quote: "god is full of crap" What the crap? I could go on forever about what you just said. Sorry but i'm a strong christian...and I believe if you insult god you won't make it up to heaven--GARUNTEED. How can Relegions go too far? Nope. Christianity is needed.... How would the world be like if no one believed in god? I just don't know why people Don't believe in god. I'd be dead by now if he wasn't there with me through all those times... I would've died at birth, but he was there. he loves us all ~this is a message for all you who have posted in this topic~ so don't think....don't think he's not there. the only reason people die is that if....if they're...suffering... god wants to end their suffering ...in heaven...no body knows each other...heaven is a wonderful place... you guys who don't believe in god....you....you will go to hell. Hell is a place, where the Magma and the earth plates are...that's HELL. heaven is way up abouve, abouve the clouds. it's very beautiful. God cares alot about us, it's unconditional love. he doesn't like our sins, but he will always love us all unconditionally. Don't label me after you read this paragraph....let god bless you if you agree with me on what I had just said....and let the devil throw hell upon you if you label me...I am a christian, and d***ed well proud of it. Anyone agree with me? |
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