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| ZD935 | Dec 5 2017, 10:59 PM Post #2791 |
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Ninja of the Wind!
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Will say that you definitely have to EV your Ninetales to be bulky AND find a good time to switch it in. Don't want it running into a Hydro Vortex from a Ludicolo, even outside of rain. Not that I did any elaborate calcs, but I thiiink there should be a way to give juuust enough SpAtk to allow Ninetales to KO non-AV Ludicolo with Freeze Dry, freeing up some EV's for bulk. But yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about rain being dominant the whole time. Rain has kinda already been on people's radars as an archetype to watch out for, and the Fireside Open tournament's results should definitely encourage a little more people to start incorporating anti-rain measures like Ferrothorn or Lapras (or, if you're really quirky, Cradily). The meta will shift to a point where there's too much prep for Rain that a new archetype becomes the better one.
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Genome Inc. Creatures Speedspitter, the Zephyr Streak Skulltank, the Ultimate Behemoth Nessi, the Hidden Horror Credits 13,200 Old Battle Stats Won: 20 Lost: 27 Ties: 1 Undecided: 4 Titan Brawls: 5 New Battle Record Wins: Losses: Ties: WINNER OF TOTAL GENOME ISLAND 2! Friend Code: 0731 - 4814 - 6166
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| DinoFlame | Dec 6 2017, 09:50 AM Post #2792 |
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God-King of Eldorado
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Doing some quick calcs, about the lowest you can invest EVs into SpA and still OHKO Ludi is 120. Leaves you with 132 that you can put into bulk, but it doesn't look like you actually gain much from using it all; Hydro Pump goes from doing minimum 54%, to a minimum of 48%. Mind you if you're looking at Hydro Vortex though, it might be worth it; 43% OHKO vs no bulk, compared to a max damage of 95%. You could play around with the exact numbers, find that sweet spot where you just live the Vortex so you can keep some more in SpA, but my own opinion is that you're probably better off just running it with a Focus Sash for the margin you're living by. The only situation I can think of where the bulk investment may really pay off is while you have Aurora Veil up. If we're looking at switching in on Ludi specifically, it's really just getting hit on the switch-in you're worried about; after that you outspeed and OHKO. Only reason I think you'd click A.Veil in that situation is if you really want to get that screen up, or if you expect it to switch out. At that point it really just depends on the situation and how you play it. (And Ferrothorn is certainly something I need to look into this year. Love that ball of spikes. ) |
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| ZD935 | Apr 15 2018, 09:20 AM Post #2793 |
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Ninja of the Wind!
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Heeey guuuys! Rutgers is hosting another VGC18 tournament today in about a few hours (around 12 pm EDT). I'm stoked to commentate again, so if you guys want to check me out, make sure to watch on twitch.tv/rutgerspokemon. Hope to see some of you guys in chat! =) |
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Genome Inc. Creatures Speedspitter, the Zephyr Streak Skulltank, the Ultimate Behemoth Nessi, the Hidden Horror Credits 13,200 Old Battle Stats Won: 20 Lost: 27 Ties: 1 Undecided: 4 Titan Brawls: 5 New Battle Record Wins: Losses: Ties: WINNER OF TOTAL GENOME ISLAND 2! Friend Code: 0731 - 4814 - 6166
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| DinoFlame | Apr 15 2018, 03:21 PM Post #2794 |
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God-King of Eldorado
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Bah. I managed to catch some of the first match but my internet's been spotty today.
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ToD Level-Up Status: 7/8 3DS FC: 4356-0410-5185 Credits: 89,500 Monsters: Pachysailosaurus, Sadaptoren, Raptagian, Carnosaurus, Gastoxic, Paladonstrum, Molick, Floraptor, Politisk, Goragon, Balalisto, Autoris, Wintarcus, Aquavenus, Torvofelis, Chelonosuchus, Dazzlewurm, Drakhaos, Insequs, Dracoceras, Mercury, Terra, Chess Spider, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Stonewrecker, Jupiter, EEC: Pterohynus, Vulakat, Creature Concepts: The Planets/Roman Gods (Mercury*, Venus*, Terra*, Mars*, Jupiter*, Saturn*, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) The Norse Gods(Thor, Loki, Odin) Ultimate Leviathan, Mammalian Dragon, Black Hunter Whale(Venatorcetus), Summanus, Remakes (Klog, Komodoking) | |
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| ZD935 | Apr 15 2018, 07:37 PM Post #2795 |
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Ninja of the Wind!
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No worries DF, we have the VOD uploaded to watch on your own time here |
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Genome Inc. Creatures Speedspitter, the Zephyr Streak Skulltank, the Ultimate Behemoth Nessi, the Hidden Horror Credits 13,200 Old Battle Stats Won: 20 Lost: 27 Ties: 1 Undecided: 4 Titan Brawls: 5 New Battle Record Wins: Losses: Ties: WINNER OF TOTAL GENOME ISLAND 2! Friend Code: 0731 - 4814 - 6166
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