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I've had just about enough of swarms
Topic Started: May 29 2010, 10:38 AM (295 Views)
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I'm so tired of people making a decent monster, and then deciding to keep it small so that there are a HUNDRED of them. Because obviously you have to max out your chance of killing the opponent byt having MORE than. And I'm not talking like Xito sixed creatures, I'm talking about people at absolutly push the limit, creating five foot long creature. And yeah, I KNOW it's in the rules, but I get so disappointed when I go in, give a monster a once over, think it's good, only to find that they creator decided to throw in a 100 of them just in case it wasn't enough. I mean, really people. Swarms are NOT the way to go. I'd love to see some actual singular creatures for once. There's a list of people that have a majority of swarms, when a single large version of that monster would have worked JUST as well, if not better.
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At the beginning there was nothing but Falcon
And he said the emptiness
"Show me your moves."
And so the universe exploded
He saw this and said YES!
He saw this and it was good.
                      -First Punch, Chapter IX
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Creatures
Hermagler, Triceramole, Pyrog swarm
Mammoboar, Mantine , Marrow
Rigabamboo, Bastia and Angelwing, Nerospitter
Fiery Harvestblax, Megatooth, Shadowcat
Solkor, Triloferous, Shade
Pararaptor, Condorian, Hippiddler
Chargerfish, Tentaculas, Azoth
Pullusmors, Shroomshi and Sporpli, Derops
Kraken, Zeus/Thunderbird, Biocell
Piscis, Taurus, Leo
Gemini, Aries, Cancer

Halloween, Christmas, JFourth

Fools Pack, Thanksgiving, Valentine
Philhog, NewYear, Easter, Saint
Chungo & Medrith, Abassi
Credits
100640
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Although when Walrus said there was a madscientist within us all I kind of got freaked out. I don't really want a triggerhappy weapons genius living in my stomach...
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Fleeshstar
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I only made the Orcadiles a pod because, well, face it, they aren't what you'd call "fast."
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CCW: I am back but will be leaving periodically for like a minute at a time because, as predicted, my clay pot's toilet is broken

Originals:
Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog
Normal:
Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown
Carnalug Clause
Magascutum, Wheel
Nani:
Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider
God-Tier:
Ako, Xuanwu
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Even still though. I mean, it's a great monster. But the whole point of sizing it down to make a swarm is to have lots of little monsters that work together to be strong, not to have a swarm of ultra powerful downsized monsters.
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At the beginning there was nothing but Falcon
And he said the emptiness
"Show me your moves."
And so the universe exploded
He saw this and said YES!
He saw this and it was good.
                      -First Punch, Chapter IX
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Creatures
Hermagler, Triceramole, Pyrog swarm
Mammoboar, Mantine , Marrow
Rigabamboo, Bastia and Angelwing, Nerospitter
Fiery Harvestblax, Megatooth, Shadowcat
Solkor, Triloferous, Shade
Pararaptor, Condorian, Hippiddler
Chargerfish, Tentaculas, Azoth
Pullusmors, Shroomshi and Sporpli, Derops
Kraken, Zeus/Thunderbird, Biocell
Piscis, Taurus, Leo
Gemini, Aries, Cancer

Halloween, Christmas, JFourth

Fools Pack, Thanksgiving, Valentine
Philhog, NewYear, Easter, Saint
Chungo & Medrith, Abassi
Credits
100640
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Although when Walrus said there was a madscientist within us all I kind of got freaked out. I don't really want a triggerhappy weapons genius living in my stomach...
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I agree with you one hundred percent KP. Something needs to be done about this. Swarm monsters are supposed to work as one like the xitos or weevion. Not just push the size limit to the max and then max out with as many as you can for that size. Seriously, it takes the fun out of battling swarm creatures.
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Fleeshstar
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Kingpin,May 29 2010
03:41 PM
Even still though. I mean, it's a great monster. But the whole point of sizing it down to make a swarm is to have lots of little monsters that work together to be strong, not to have a swarm of ultra powerful downsized monsters.

By your logic you did the exact thing to the fools. they would be amazing monsters scaled up.
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CCW: I am back but will be leaving periodically for like a minute at a time because, as predicted, my clay pot's toilet is broken

Originals:
Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog
Normal:
Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown
Carnalug Clause
Magascutum, Wheel
Nani:
Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider
God-Tier:
Ako, Xuanwu
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Saidilophosaurus
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Seven fools flish. They're not a swarm, they're a group. Like Gurath or Chompers.
I am the King of Putrescine and Sulphur.

Creatures (paid for)
Gurath
Mawworm
Cheetah Beetle
Scampi
Lurkiller
Weevion
Saidilophosaurus
Pyrotitan

Credits
10450

Pipeline
Aerotitan - Flying Skewer/Manta Ray/Elasmosaur omnivore that body checks things, electrical current
Hydrotitan - Great big ragworm with electric field, can suck in smaller things with bladderwort traps, bio-luminescence bursts, makes whirlpools
Chomatitan - Great big starfish thing. Ridiculously heavy, can spray out clouds of dust and salt. Lots of armour and thick blubber, slams arms to shark the earth.
Laser-eye insects
Skarsgar
Redux: Sharguana, Hellhound
Update: Mawworm, Scampi, Cheetah Beetle, Lurkiller, Weevion, Saidilophosaurus to current standards CURRENT STANDARDS OP NERF CURRENT STANDARDS BLIZZ
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And each hasn't been given so many powers I'm amazed they can stand up. Each is just a smart, bipedial, hyena. AND they work together to defeat an opponent, unlike so many swarms I see nowadays.
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At the beginning there was nothing but Falcon
And he said the emptiness
"Show me your moves."
And so the universe exploded
He saw this and said YES!
He saw this and it was good.
                      -First Punch, Chapter IX
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Creatures
Hermagler, Triceramole, Pyrog swarm
Mammoboar, Mantine , Marrow
Rigabamboo, Bastia and Angelwing, Nerospitter
Fiery Harvestblax, Megatooth, Shadowcat
Solkor, Triloferous, Shade
Pararaptor, Condorian, Hippiddler
Chargerfish, Tentaculas, Azoth
Pullusmors, Shroomshi and Sporpli, Derops
Kraken, Zeus/Thunderbird, Biocell
Piscis, Taurus, Leo
Gemini, Aries, Cancer

Halloween, Christmas, JFourth

Fools Pack, Thanksgiving, Valentine
Philhog, NewYear, Easter, Saint
Chungo & Medrith, Abassi
Credits
100640
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Although when Walrus said there was a madscientist within us all I kind of got freaked out. I don't really want a triggerhappy weapons genius living in my stomach...
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Fleeshstar
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The orcadile's social behavior is based on Orca's socialization. so they WOULD work together in reality.
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CCW: I am back but will be leaving periodically for like a minute at a time because, as predicted, my clay pot's toilet is broken

Originals:
Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog
Normal:
Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown
Carnalug Clause
Magascutum, Wheel
Nani:
Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider
God-Tier:
Ako, Xuanwu
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Kingpin
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So put it in the LOGI section. You don't need to have the whole pod attack.
Quote:
 
At the beginning there was nothing but Falcon
And he said the emptiness
"Show me your moves."
And so the universe exploded
He saw this and said YES!
He saw this and it was good.
                      -First Punch, Chapter IX
Posted Image

Creatures
Hermagler, Triceramole, Pyrog swarm
Mammoboar, Mantine , Marrow
Rigabamboo, Bastia and Angelwing, Nerospitter
Fiery Harvestblax, Megatooth, Shadowcat
Solkor, Triloferous, Shade
Pararaptor, Condorian, Hippiddler
Chargerfish, Tentaculas, Azoth
Pullusmors, Shroomshi and Sporpli, Derops
Kraken, Zeus/Thunderbird, Biocell
Piscis, Taurus, Leo
Gemini, Aries, Cancer

Halloween, Christmas, JFourth

Fools Pack, Thanksgiving, Valentine
Philhog, NewYear, Easter, Saint
Chungo & Medrith, Abassi
Credits
100640
Quote:
 
Although when Walrus said there was a madscientist within us all I kind of got freaked out. I don't really want a triggerhappy weapons genius living in my stomach...
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Thing is FK that these creatures are on a higher level of socialization: toolmaking, for example, is linked to close social bonding. Whilst Fools could function as one creature units, they simply are very poor at working alone; trapping is a group ability, as with Gurath stealing and whatever the Chomper's hat is. Orcas are very, very efficient hunters by themselves. I'm not even sure what podding behaviour is for.
I am the King of Putrescine and Sulphur.

Creatures (paid for)
Gurath
Mawworm
Cheetah Beetle
Scampi
Lurkiller
Weevion
Saidilophosaurus
Pyrotitan

Credits
10450

Pipeline
Aerotitan - Flying Skewer/Manta Ray/Elasmosaur omnivore that body checks things, electrical current
Hydrotitan - Great big ragworm with electric field, can suck in smaller things with bladderwort traps, bio-luminescence bursts, makes whirlpools
Chomatitan - Great big starfish thing. Ridiculously heavy, can spray out clouds of dust and salt. Lots of armour and thick blubber, slams arms to shark the earth.
Laser-eye insects
Skarsgar
Redux: Sharguana, Hellhound
Update: Mawworm, Scampi, Cheetah Beetle, Lurkiller, Weevion, Saidilophosaurus to current standards CURRENT STANDARDS OP NERF CURRENT STANDARDS BLIZZ
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Saidilophosaurus,May 30 2010
08:18 PM
Thing is FK that these creatures are on a higher level of socialization: toolmaking, for example, is linked to close social bonding. Whilst Fools could function as one creature units, they simply are very poor at working alone; trapping is a group ability, as with Gurath stealing and whatever the Chomper's hat is. Orcas are very, very efficient hunters by themselves. I'm not even sure what podding behaviour is for.

its so they don't get bored when not on the hunt, so they have someone to play pass the seaweed with, and also so they can help eachother out when they are in danger.

and alot of dolphins and porpoises play pass the seaweed... I've seen atleast pacific whitesides, orcas, and harbor porpoises do it on tv...
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Credits:
4400
Quote:
 
CCW: I am back but will be leaving periodically for like a minute at a time because, as predicted, my clay pot's toilet is broken

Originals:
Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog
Normal:
Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown
Carnalug Clause
Magascutum, Wheel
Nani:
Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider
God-Tier:
Ako, Xuanwu
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i've actualy been thinking of shrinking reptitrox to only five members.
now,since i read this,i'm defianetly changing it.
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Credits: 7096

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Waffle Flish,May 31 2010
06:29 AM
Saidilophosaurus,May 30 2010
08:18 PM
Thing is FK that these creatures are on a higher level of socialization: toolmaking, for example, is linked to close social bonding. Whilst Fools could function as one creature units, they simply are very poor at working alone; trapping is a group ability, as with Gurath stealing and whatever the Chomper's hat is. Orcas are very, very efficient hunters by themselves. I'm not even sure what podding behaviour is for.

its so they don't get bored when not on the hunt, so they have someone to play pass the seaweed with, and also so they can help eachother out when they are in danger.

and alot of dolphins and porpoises play pass the seaweed... I've seen atleast pacific whitesides, orcas, and harbor porpoises do it on tv...

Again, you can put that in the LOGI section.
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At the beginning there was nothing but Falcon
And he said the emptiness
"Show me your moves."
And so the universe exploded
He saw this and said YES!
He saw this and it was good.
                      -First Punch, Chapter IX
Posted Image

Creatures
Hermagler, Triceramole, Pyrog swarm
Mammoboar, Mantine , Marrow
Rigabamboo, Bastia and Angelwing, Nerospitter
Fiery Harvestblax, Megatooth, Shadowcat
Solkor, Triloferous, Shade
Pararaptor, Condorian, Hippiddler
Chargerfish, Tentaculas, Azoth
Pullusmors, Shroomshi and Sporpli, Derops
Kraken, Zeus/Thunderbird, Biocell
Piscis, Taurus, Leo
Gemini, Aries, Cancer

Halloween, Christmas, JFourth

Fools Pack, Thanksgiving, Valentine
Philhog, NewYear, Easter, Saint
Chungo & Medrith, Abassi
Credits
100640
Quote:
 
Although when Walrus said there was a madscientist within us all I kind of got freaked out. I don't really want a triggerhappy weapons genius living in my stomach...
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the only reason my Mantodons are so amall is they were the largest i could afford.
My monsters

Ammit

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You better run now.
'Cause here comes a girl with lots of POW!
Ammit is coming to town!

She'll rip your arms & legs off
She'll have your heart for dessert
She'll slurp your blood up like a drink
But hey, it couldn't hurt!

You better watch out
You better run now.
'Cause here comes a girl with lots of POW!
Ammit is coming to town!

She sees you when you're walking
She sees you when you're in pain
She looms over your carcass
Whether in sunshine or in rain!

You better watch out
You better run now.
'Cause here comes a girl with lots of POW!
Ammit is coming to town!



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I have a question: Are my leoraptors okay, because I'll change the number of individuals if I need to.
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Nodistrap
Emperor Komodo
RhinoAnteater
Armoredillo
Baryfronyx
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