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Feathered Megalosaurid Found
Topic Started: Jul 2 2012, 08:08 PM (1,341 Views)
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I would assume the ear is the final hole, which shows more skull except for a tiny sliver at the bottom, though I'm not an expert on the more precise aspects of theropod anatomy.
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DarkGricer,Jul 4 2012
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*Facepalm* Look at how the spines come out of the back and how far they go up. Do you honestly think they would need THAT much muscle? The sail also goes over the arms, they wouldn't have needed that much muscle in their arms.

And about the hump thing. dinosaurs was semi-aquatic. Ouranosaurus wasn't. IT wasn't a combat machine either. It can't escape its predators by running at a speed of 10 MPH, which would be reasonable if it had a hump that big.

And then there's the thing that Spinosaurus, as you said, was SEMI-aquatic. Not fully. IT would still need to go on land. If you combine a heavyweight body with the recent discovery that Spinosaurus didn't have very long legs, it's not gonna be able to stand well, if it can at all.

It's just muscle/fat indeed. That's why. Adding that much extra muscle is going to increase your weight drastically. Not good when you're something like a Spinosaurus. And when you add so much fat, it doesn't even help a little bit with standing.

Since when? You say T.rex is 5 tons. I say it's 7-9 tons. You say Spinosaurus is umm... Umm... Did you ever say anything about it's weight, because I can't remember if you ever did. Anyway, I say it was 12-14 tons. My mind shall not change unless scientist say so to. To me, the current weight estimates are practically as accurate as they can be. You can argue, but it likely won't change my mind.



Where? I can see eye and nose? But no ear or fourth hole. That really makes me think where their ear is.

Excuse me while I go looking for the position of a bird's ear.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/dinosaur...nny-120605.html

And yes, I can see how high it goes up. It's highest at the hips, were it would need its legs to kick.

You can't say that Ouranosaurus didn't have a hump, its an accepted theory. Hate to burst your bubble.

Anacondas are semi-aquatic. that's the only reason they can get so heavy. If they were fully terrestrial snakes I guarantee they wouldn't get that big. Same with Purrusaurus, Mourasuchus, ect.

Short legs are BETTER for holding weight, you do realize, right?

Who ever said anything about fat?

Birds don't have an actual hole in the skull for nostrils, as the nostrils are on the beak.

If you really want to debate this go debate JohnFaa on Spec Evo, I'm a bit busy atm.
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Sorry Flish, but just because it's 'accepted' doesn't mean it's not a theory. Evolution is still only a theory; hell, gravity is a theory.
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You have got to b kidding me!

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That Spine goes WAY higher than the hips! Otherwise, it wouldn't be a sail/hump/muscle anchor.
OR, perhaps you misunderstood me.

Accepted. But is it possible?

Unlike any of those, Spinosaurus spend most of its time on land.

Yes, but with short, I mean really short. Like so short that if it weighed 21 tons it wouldn't be able to run.
In fact, if it was that heavy, it's legs would just break regardless of their length.

Uhhh... Perhaps the scientists who came up with the theory that the sail is not a sail but a hump?

Nobody ever said that.
To me.

Well, we might not need to debate. We're getting quite off-topic. Perhaps we should lower our weapons and debate another time? We're not exactly getting anywhere with convincing one another.
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Well, I'm pretty sure that a sail would be of no use underwater. Swim near the top, you startle things with your utterly massive sail that sticks out of the water. Swim underwater, and it creates unwanted drag. Abovewater, it just acts like a large sign, making you that much more noticable. And if it were a spine, if you roll over, you'd kill yourself. Or if you're running through somewhere and happen to run into a thick branch, snap goes your neural spine.
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Superdude327,Jul 4 2012
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Well, I'm pretty sure that a sail would be of no use underwater. Swim near the top, you startle things with your utterly massive sail that sticks out of the water. Swim underwater, and it creates unwanted drag. Abovewater, it just acts like a large sign, making you that much more noticable. And if it were a spine, if you roll over, you'd kill yourself. Or if you're running through somewhere and happen to run into a thick branch, snap goes your neural spine.

A sail would be more streamlined for in the water than a giant hump. And that is a risk animals with sailed on their back take. Dimetrodon did it, Edaphosaurus did it, many others did it. Why should Spinosaurus?
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No, you wouldn't die. The neural spines do not have the spinal cord in it.

Also, that restoration is outdated. This is the current one:

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Also, your wrong again. Spinosaurus spent only slightly more time on land than crocs and turtles.

You clearly ignored my link.
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Apparently, you misunderstood me.

And no, I didn't ignore your link at all.

But you did ignore what I said at the bottom of my post.
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False alarm, it's a coelurosaur. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...&tbb=1&ie=UTF-8

The author of the blog post doesn't rule out the possibility of non-coelurosaurs having feathers, though.

Regarding the previous page's debate, read here. A large theropod can have full body plumage, as their bodies are made very differently from that of an elephant or rhinoceros. Their large surface area allows them to diffuse heat more easily (this is why elephants have huge ears) and the air sacs in their bodies allow for more rapid cooling. So, Tyrannosaurus almost certainly had full body plumage, and if a non-coelurosaurian theropod is found with feathers in the future, then we are to assume that other large theropods in those clades did too.
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Well. They could've announced that earlier.
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We still have to remember there's still the possibility Compsognathids are Megalosaurids. IIRC they have very little in common with other coelurosaurs.
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They're certainly very basal at the very least, especially since they only had feathers on the top half of their bodies.
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