| Welcome to Genome Incorporated. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Madcow | |
|---|---|
| Topic Started: Jul 25 2012, 02:02 PM (686 Views) | |
| Clockwork | Jul 26 2012, 01:18 PM Post #16 |
|
DEUS VULT
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
But Carnalug can fight, even if it wasn't designed to. If someone challenges a creature like this, or accepts a challenge from a creature like this, with a creature doomed to lose, then it's their own fault, really. |
|
Monsters: Platty Bomb-Blaster Swarm (100) Underworld (Blest, Elysium, & Tartarus) Minithulu Troop (6: Alfred, Abbs, J, Bob, Todd, & the Doctor) Bomber Acroman King Cobroth Badgewrath (Wrath) Prometheoyster (Sorrow) Monglut (Gluttony) Corpslumber (Sloth) Monitoxin & Serpoison (Famine & Pestilence) Carnalug (Lust) Lucifer (Pride) Battalion (War) Covetitan (Greed) Grieffon Pack (Death, Swords, Plague, Beasts, & the pups, collectively named Hell) Irewood (Envy) Formicaesar Legion (Conquest) Apollyon (Vainglory) Blitzlax (Discouragement) Babylon Rose (Fornication) The Mass (Khaos) Uranian Floating Octopus (Ouranos) Almater (Gaea) Nemean Antlion (Tartaros) Bleeding Hato (Eros) Hadalbender (Erebos) COMING "SOON": Juggernaut & Dreadnought Five doses of ??? Protogenoi Loves- 3/8 done Destrux, my origin story Credits: 5282 EEC: Gazenobra, Northern Kinhound, Fraternaraptor, Chocobornis, Vibrant Minami, Kakapwn Battle Ratio: 12/0/10 Team Ratio: 0/1/0 Mission Ratio: 3/1 Written: 23 3DS FC: 0061-0480-8311 690/693/721 Dex Completion
| |
![]() |
|
| DarkGricer | Jul 26 2012, 01:23 PM Post #17 |
![]()
That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Exactly. This thing doesn't either. It doesn't matter whether your monster gets bitten. If it can kill the Madcow quickly enough, it still wins. IF this thing has indestructible armor and bacteria that could kill Kronos in less than a second, it would have an ability to assure victory. But alas, it doesn't, thus meaning it's victory depends on the opponent, environment and mistakes they make. Plus, it's not like this thing could beat Atlas. |
|
Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
| |
![]() |
|
| Kingpin | Jul 26 2012, 06:14 PM Post #18 |
![]()
Kronos
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Actually if it gets bitten and still manages to kill Madcow, and later dies, it counts as a tie. |
![]() Creatures Hermagler, Triceramole, Pyrog swarm Mammoboar, Mantine , Marrow Rigabamboo, Bastia and Angelwing, Nerospitter Fiery Harvestblax, Megatooth, Shadowcat Solkor, Triloferous, Shade Pararaptor, Condorian, Hippiddler Chargerfish, Tentaculas, Azoth Pullusmors, Shroomshi and Sporpli, Derops Kraken, Zeus/Thunderbird, Biocell Piscis, Taurus, Leo Gemini, Aries, Cancer Halloween, Christmas, JFourth Fools Pack, Thanksgiving, Valentine Philhog, NewYear, Easter, Saint Chungo & Medrith, Abassi Credits 100640
| |
![]() |
|
| DarkGricer | Jul 26 2012, 07:43 PM Post #19 |
![]()
That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Hmmm... Last time I checked, if a creature kills another one, but dies to wounds/venom/disease afterwards, it still counts as a win. I mean, look as Mantalupus VS Screamer. Screamer won, but it did die ater the actual battle was over. |
|
Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
| |
![]() |
|
| Fleeshstar | Jul 26 2012, 10:45 PM Post #20 |
|
What did Flish Shake Even Mean
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
IIRC its only a tie if they die roughly the same time. |
![]() Credits: 4400
Originals: Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog Normal: Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown Carnalug Clause Magascutum, Wheel Nani: Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider God-Tier: Ako, Xuanwu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5343-9163-0037![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
| |
![]() |
|
| Kingpin | Jul 27 2012, 12:40 AM Post #21 |
![]()
Kronos
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
I would call dying 15 minutes after the monster was bitten being 'roughly the same time'. Other battles have resulted in ties over a longer period of time. |
![]() Creatures Hermagler, Triceramole, Pyrog swarm Mammoboar, Mantine , Marrow Rigabamboo, Bastia and Angelwing, Nerospitter Fiery Harvestblax, Megatooth, Shadowcat Solkor, Triloferous, Shade Pararaptor, Condorian, Hippiddler Chargerfish, Tentaculas, Azoth Pullusmors, Shroomshi and Sporpli, Derops Kraken, Zeus/Thunderbird, Biocell Piscis, Taurus, Leo Gemini, Aries, Cancer Halloween, Christmas, JFourth Fools Pack, Thanksgiving, Valentine Philhog, NewYear, Easter, Saint Chungo & Medrith, Abassi Credits 100640
| |
![]() |
|
| DarkGricer | Jul 27 2012, 06:45 AM Post #22 |
![]()
That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Hmmm... I wouldn't exactly call that fair. I mean, it happens often that an animal wins a fight, but dies to its wounds afterwards. |
|
Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
| |
![]() |
|
| Clockwork | Jul 27 2012, 07:02 AM Post #23 |
|
DEUS VULT
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
In the end, either one of them is dead, or they both are. If they both are, then they tie. If one survives, then it wins. We can afford to be much more black & white with than nature, with fights taking place in the battle dome. |
|
Monsters: Platty Bomb-Blaster Swarm (100) Underworld (Blest, Elysium, & Tartarus) Minithulu Troop (6: Alfred, Abbs, J, Bob, Todd, & the Doctor) Bomber Acroman King Cobroth Badgewrath (Wrath) Prometheoyster (Sorrow) Monglut (Gluttony) Corpslumber (Sloth) Monitoxin & Serpoison (Famine & Pestilence) Carnalug (Lust) Lucifer (Pride) Battalion (War) Covetitan (Greed) Grieffon Pack (Death, Swords, Plague, Beasts, & the pups, collectively named Hell) Irewood (Envy) Formicaesar Legion (Conquest) Apollyon (Vainglory) Blitzlax (Discouragement) Babylon Rose (Fornication) The Mass (Khaos) Uranian Floating Octopus (Ouranos) Almater (Gaea) Nemean Antlion (Tartaros) Bleeding Hato (Eros) Hadalbender (Erebos) COMING "SOON": Juggernaut & Dreadnought Five doses of ??? Protogenoi Loves- 3/8 done Destrux, my origin story Credits: 5282 EEC: Gazenobra, Northern Kinhound, Fraternaraptor, Chocobornis, Vibrant Minami, Kakapwn Battle Ratio: 12/0/10 Team Ratio: 0/1/0 Mission Ratio: 3/1 Written: 23 3DS FC: 0061-0480-8311 690/693/721 Dex Completion
| |
![]() |
|
| Kingpin | Jul 27 2012, 12:38 PM Post #24 |
![]()
Kronos
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Exactly Clocky. |
![]() Creatures Hermagler, Triceramole, Pyrog swarm Mammoboar, Mantine , Marrow Rigabamboo, Bastia and Angelwing, Nerospitter Fiery Harvestblax, Megatooth, Shadowcat Solkor, Triloferous, Shade Pararaptor, Condorian, Hippiddler Chargerfish, Tentaculas, Azoth Pullusmors, Shroomshi and Sporpli, Derops Kraken, Zeus/Thunderbird, Biocell Piscis, Taurus, Leo Gemini, Aries, Cancer Halloween, Christmas, JFourth Fools Pack, Thanksgiving, Valentine Philhog, NewYear, Easter, Saint Chungo & Medrith, Abassi Credits 100640
| |
![]() |
|
| Superdude327 | Jul 27 2012, 12:48 PM Post #25 |
|
I roll to insult!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
So... basically fighting any creature with a 'battle effecting' venom, such as killing the opponent, that you don't have an immunity for, is a tie? 'Cause to be effective, the poison would have to take place during the battle. That doesn't seem fair. Like you killed it, but it bit you, and then you died after? Oh, and also
That was taken out of Mantalupus vs Screamer. Not a tie. Still died fifteen minutes afterwards. |
|
Curious as the Chicken Superdude, big brother to Happyred Duk A weird duck called Duk. Lewis My angry British voice. Monsters: Gerranous GERBIL-CHICKEN-GRIFFON/The Sun Lord Waterunner Jesusaur Hill Turtle Detonator Sand Shark Tremors Tyrager Brainirex Madcow Mad Cow Disease Woolly Caterpillar Murderous Rage Skullmunkey & Skullker Starvation and Vampirism Lesser Gerranous Dwarf Bassius Thunder Tadrannah Tadpole Sharks Greater Gerranous Goliath Cryptolepidavenator desmondiiThe Hidden Blade Keelhead Grond Heikani Titanshell & Dannouran Yureel Ghost in the Shell Pet Monsters: Barred Hawk Wolves of the Sky Pidganha Sky Terror/Love Dove Dermintine Blur Wolves Mega-Gerbil Powerhouse Roosterock Apocalypse Shepardax Quickdraw Acronym Monsters: Excalibur The Sword Mjölnir The Hammer Gungnir The Spear Aegis The Sheild The Four Lords: Zotzotherium Lord of the Sky/Zotz Setotherium Lord of the Earth/Set Oceaos Lord of the Water/Typhoon Vulcanis Lord of the Fire/Surtr Creature Concepts Monsters: Trontine, Turkolophus, SwordLions, Compurster & Fungorst, Snapperwhip, Creeping Death, Saber-tooth Camel, Casteroids, Endokorus, 'Dementia Credits: 7,900 | |
![]() |
|
| DinoFlame | Jul 27 2012, 02:25 PM Post #26 |
![]()
God-King of Eldorado
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Right, here's my deconstruction of this whole situation, because frankly, this has (or at least seems like it has) gotten out of hand. The Problem: We've never had or said anywhere what the protocol is for when a creature dies soon/after a battle/its opponent has been defeated. In lack of such a protocol, everyone has their own opinion on what the protocol is, even though there IS no protocol in place. The Solution: MAKE a protocol. Now, as has already been made quite clear by the fact this has came up in the first place, and as I already said, we have no protocol for this. As such, it doesn't matter what we have or haven't done, or thought the protocol was in the past. What matters is making a protocol that is both fair and practical, no different than the whole swarm/packs changes a year ago. And with that, I'm calling a staff room discussion on the matter so we can get this resolved. |
ToD Level-Up Status: 7/8 3DS FC: 4356-0410-5185 Credits: 89,500 Monsters: Pachysailosaurus, Sadaptoren, Raptagian, Carnosaurus, Gastoxic, Paladonstrum, Molick, Floraptor, Politisk, Goragon, Balalisto, Autoris, Wintarcus, Aquavenus, Torvofelis, Chelonosuchus, Dazzlewurm, Drakhaos, Insequs, Dracoceras, Mercury, Terra, Chess Spider, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Stonewrecker, Jupiter, EEC: Pterohynus, Vulakat, Creature Concepts: The Planets/Roman Gods (Mercury*, Venus*, Terra*, Mars*, Jupiter*, Saturn*, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) The Norse Gods(Thor, Loki, Odin) Ultimate Leviathan, Mammalian Dragon, Black Hunter Whale(Venatorcetus), Summanus, Remakes (Klog, Komodoking) | |
![]() |
|
| Clockwork | Jul 27 2012, 02:56 PM Post #27 |
|
DEUS VULT
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Pardon me for stating (what seems like to me) the obvious, but the problem in this topic isn't "ties: how do they work?", it's "is Madcow over powered, & does it matter?" As it is less overpowered than Carnalug, which was established early on, the very existence of the rest of the topic confuses me. |
|
Monsters: Platty Bomb-Blaster Swarm (100) Underworld (Blest, Elysium, & Tartarus) Minithulu Troop (6: Alfred, Abbs, J, Bob, Todd, & the Doctor) Bomber Acroman King Cobroth Badgewrath (Wrath) Prometheoyster (Sorrow) Monglut (Gluttony) Corpslumber (Sloth) Monitoxin & Serpoison (Famine & Pestilence) Carnalug (Lust) Lucifer (Pride) Battalion (War) Covetitan (Greed) Grieffon Pack (Death, Swords, Plague, Beasts, & the pups, collectively named Hell) Irewood (Envy) Formicaesar Legion (Conquest) Apollyon (Vainglory) Blitzlax (Discouragement) Babylon Rose (Fornication) The Mass (Khaos) Uranian Floating Octopus (Ouranos) Almater (Gaea) Nemean Antlion (Tartaros) Bleeding Hato (Eros) Hadalbender (Erebos) COMING "SOON": Juggernaut & Dreadnought Five doses of ??? Protogenoi Loves- 3/8 done Destrux, my origin story Credits: 5282 EEC: Gazenobra, Northern Kinhound, Fraternaraptor, Chocobornis, Vibrant Minami, Kakapwn Battle Ratio: 12/0/10 Team Ratio: 0/1/0 Mission Ratio: 3/1 Written: 23 3DS FC: 0061-0480-8311 690/693/721 Dex Completion
| |
![]() |
|
| DinoFlame | Jul 27 2012, 03:23 PM Post #28 |
![]()
God-King of Eldorado
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
The initial problem/discussion was indeed whether or not Mad Cow was overpowered. In trying to determine that, it basically came down to how ties work. By solving the later problem (ties) the former problem (Madcow) is in turn solved, unless I am mistaken. Either way, the tie problem that has been brought up is still something that needed to be dealt with anyway. |
ToD Level-Up Status: 7/8 3DS FC: 4356-0410-5185 Credits: 89,500 Monsters: Pachysailosaurus, Sadaptoren, Raptagian, Carnosaurus, Gastoxic, Paladonstrum, Molick, Floraptor, Politisk, Goragon, Balalisto, Autoris, Wintarcus, Aquavenus, Torvofelis, Chelonosuchus, Dazzlewurm, Drakhaos, Insequs, Dracoceras, Mercury, Terra, Chess Spider, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Stonewrecker, Jupiter, EEC: Pterohynus, Vulakat, Creature Concepts: The Planets/Roman Gods (Mercury*, Venus*, Terra*, Mars*, Jupiter*, Saturn*, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) The Norse Gods(Thor, Loki, Odin) Ultimate Leviathan, Mammalian Dragon, Black Hunter Whale(Venatorcetus), Summanus, Remakes (Klog, Komodoking) | |
![]() |
|
| Superdude327 | Jul 27 2012, 04:45 PM Post #29 |
|
I roll to insult!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Isn't it funny that I'm always the one who gets the rules changed? DG doesn't have that happen, IN doesn't, happyred50... well, he did get something. But I'm usually the one who starts something that begins a debate and causes rules to be changed. |
|
Curious as the Chicken Superdude, big brother to Happyred Duk A weird duck called Duk. Lewis My angry British voice. Monsters: Gerranous GERBIL-CHICKEN-GRIFFON/The Sun Lord Waterunner Jesusaur Hill Turtle Detonator Sand Shark Tremors Tyrager Brainirex Madcow Mad Cow Disease Woolly Caterpillar Murderous Rage Skullmunkey & Skullker Starvation and Vampirism Lesser Gerranous Dwarf Bassius Thunder Tadrannah Tadpole Sharks Greater Gerranous Goliath Cryptolepidavenator desmondiiThe Hidden Blade Keelhead Grond Heikani Titanshell & Dannouran Yureel Ghost in the Shell Pet Monsters: Barred Hawk Wolves of the Sky Pidganha Sky Terror/Love Dove Dermintine Blur Wolves Mega-Gerbil Powerhouse Roosterock Apocalypse Shepardax Quickdraw Acronym Monsters: Excalibur The Sword Mjölnir The Hammer Gungnir The Spear Aegis The Sheild The Four Lords: Zotzotherium Lord of the Sky/Zotz Setotherium Lord of the Earth/Set Oceaos Lord of the Water/Typhoon Vulcanis Lord of the Fire/Surtr Creature Concepts Monsters: Trontine, Turkolophus, SwordLions, Compurster & Fungorst, Snapperwhip, Creeping Death, Saber-tooth Camel, Casteroids, Endokorus, 'Dementia Credits: 7,900 | |
![]() |
|
| DinoFlame | Jul 28 2012, 08:16 AM Post #30 |
![]()
God-King of Eldorado
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Not so much of a rule change as it is a case of realizing that there really wasn't any rule when there should be. |
ToD Level-Up Status: 7/8 3DS FC: 4356-0410-5185 Credits: 89,500 Monsters: Pachysailosaurus, Sadaptoren, Raptagian, Carnosaurus, Gastoxic, Paladonstrum, Molick, Floraptor, Politisk, Goragon, Balalisto, Autoris, Wintarcus, Aquavenus, Torvofelis, Chelonosuchus, Dazzlewurm, Drakhaos, Insequs, Dracoceras, Mercury, Terra, Chess Spider, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Stonewrecker, Jupiter, EEC: Pterohynus, Vulakat, Creature Concepts: The Planets/Roman Gods (Mercury*, Venus*, Terra*, Mars*, Jupiter*, Saturn*, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) The Norse Gods(Thor, Loki, Odin) Ultimate Leviathan, Mammalian Dragon, Black Hunter Whale(Venatorcetus), Summanus, Remakes (Klog, Komodoking) | |
![]() |
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · Lab Archives · Next Topic » |




![]](http://z1.ifrm.com/static/1/pip_r.png)



-----------------
----------------
-----------------
-----------------
-----------------


































5343-9163-0037





1:51 PM Jul 11