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| Clockwork | Sep 9 2014, 07:32 PM Post #31 |
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DEUS VULT
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[citation needed] |
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| DarkGricer | Sep 9 2014, 08:11 PM Post #32 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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Looking back at the article where I got it from, it appears I was half wrong. There is a Dolhpin with passive electrolocation, but it appears its not known whether other Dolphins, such as Orcas, have the same abilities. Anyway, that still doesn't mean they can't tell the difference between live or dead things. I mean, think about it. A living, conscious Dolphin is alive, and thus will be moving around in ways that dead things don't. But if you read the article I posted and watched the videos, you'd see that the movements make zero difference in the playability of the creature. The only real difference is that it doesn't sink, which doesn't make a difference seeing as most of what the Orcas do is pushing it up/out of the water anyway. |
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| Clockwork | Sep 9 2014, 09:00 PM Post #33 |
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I've not read the article nor have I watched the videos. I am going purely off of your arguments, which seem to be contradicting themselves. "... the movements make zero difference in the playability of the creature. The only real difference is that it doesn't sink..." So in other words, they move, and so the orca plays with them. But when they stop moving, unless they sink, the orca keeps playing, because movement doesn't matter. So, according to you, the orca doesn't care if its toy is alive, yet it only plays with it to cause pain to a living thing? |
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Monsters: Platty Bomb-Blaster Swarm (100) Underworld (Blest, Elysium, & Tartarus) Minithulu Troop (6: Alfred, Abbs, J, Bob, Todd, & the Doctor) Bomber Acroman King Cobroth Badgewrath (Wrath) Prometheoyster (Sorrow) Monglut (Gluttony) Corpslumber (Sloth) Monitoxin & Serpoison (Famine & Pestilence) Carnalug (Lust) Lucifer (Pride) Battalion (War) Covetitan (Greed) Grieffon Pack (Death, Swords, Plague, Beasts, & the pups, collectively named Hell) Irewood (Envy) Formicaesar Legion (Conquest) Apollyon (Vainglory) Blitzlax (Discouragement) Babylon Rose (Fornication) The Mass (Khaos) Uranian Floating Octopus (Ouranos) Almater (Gaea) Nemean Antlion (Tartaros) Bleeding Hato (Eros) Hadalbender (Erebos) COMING "SOON": Juggernaut & Dreadnought Five doses of ??? Protogenoi Loves- 3/8 done Destrux, my origin story Credits: 5282 EEC: Gazenobra, Northern Kinhound, Fraternaraptor, Chocobornis, Vibrant Minami, Kakapwn Battle Ratio: 12/0/10 Team Ratio: 0/1/0 Mission Ratio: 3/1 Written: 23 3DS FC: 0061-0480-8311 690/693/721 Dex Completion
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| DarkGricer | Sep 9 2014, 09:16 PM Post #34 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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I don't think I understand what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is that a living Dolphin doesn't sink. A dead Dolphin does. Whether the Dolhpin sinks or not doesn't increase or decrease the playability of the "toy" for the Orcas, seeing as most of what they do to the Dolphin is pushing them up anyways (So, if anything, the sinking one should be more fun to play with), and yet the Orcas only play with the ones that don't sink. The only reasonable explanation I can think of is that they are just rude like that and only enjoy it if they know their victim can feel it. Dang, I did not realise how difficult this is to explain until I wrote this post. IF you don't understand the explanation, I'll further explain it tomorrow. |
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| Clockwork | Sep 9 2014, 09:27 PM Post #35 |
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That's a bit of an overcomplication, isn't it? It could be as simple as "thing floats=working toy=fun to play with" & "thing sinks=broken toy=no fun to play with". |
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Monsters: Platty Bomb-Blaster Swarm (100) Underworld (Blest, Elysium, & Tartarus) Minithulu Troop (6: Alfred, Abbs, J, Bob, Todd, & the Doctor) Bomber Acroman King Cobroth Badgewrath (Wrath) Prometheoyster (Sorrow) Monglut (Gluttony) Corpslumber (Sloth) Monitoxin & Serpoison (Famine & Pestilence) Carnalug (Lust) Lucifer (Pride) Battalion (War) Covetitan (Greed) Grieffon Pack (Death, Swords, Plague, Beasts, & the pups, collectively named Hell) Irewood (Envy) Formicaesar Legion (Conquest) Apollyon (Vainglory) Blitzlax (Discouragement) Babylon Rose (Fornication) The Mass (Khaos) Uranian Floating Octopus (Ouranos) Almater (Gaea) Nemean Antlion (Tartaros) Bleeding Hato (Eros) Hadalbender (Erebos) COMING "SOON": Juggernaut & Dreadnought Five doses of ??? Protogenoi Loves- 3/8 done Destrux, my origin story Credits: 5282 EEC: Gazenobra, Northern Kinhound, Fraternaraptor, Chocobornis, Vibrant Minami, Kakapwn Battle Ratio: 12/0/10 Team Ratio: 0/1/0 Mission Ratio: 3/1 Written: 23 3DS FC: 0061-0480-8311 690/693/721 Dex Completion
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| DarkGricer | Sep 9 2014, 09:39 PM Post #36 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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Hmmm... Probably could've phrased it something like that. The point is, the "broken toy" should be just as fun to play with then the non broken one but they are almost functionally identical. But the Orcas don't play with the "broken toy". Why?
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Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
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| Clockwork | Sep 9 2014, 09:43 PM Post #37 |
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They're intelligent enough to make connections. "Broken prey dies easier, broken food makes me sick, probably shouldn't mess with broken things in general." |
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Monsters: Platty Bomb-Blaster Swarm (100) Underworld (Blest, Elysium, & Tartarus) Minithulu Troop (6: Alfred, Abbs, J, Bob, Todd, & the Doctor) Bomber Acroman King Cobroth Badgewrath (Wrath) Prometheoyster (Sorrow) Monglut (Gluttony) Corpslumber (Sloth) Monitoxin & Serpoison (Famine & Pestilence) Carnalug (Lust) Lucifer (Pride) Battalion (War) Covetitan (Greed) Grieffon Pack (Death, Swords, Plague, Beasts, & the pups, collectively named Hell) Irewood (Envy) Formicaesar Legion (Conquest) Apollyon (Vainglory) Blitzlax (Discouragement) Babylon Rose (Fornication) The Mass (Khaos) Uranian Floating Octopus (Ouranos) Almater (Gaea) Nemean Antlion (Tartaros) Bleeding Hato (Eros) Hadalbender (Erebos) COMING "SOON": Juggernaut & Dreadnought Five doses of ??? Protogenoi Loves- 3/8 done Destrux, my origin story Credits: 5282 EEC: Gazenobra, Northern Kinhound, Fraternaraptor, Chocobornis, Vibrant Minami, Kakapwn Battle Ratio: 12/0/10 Team Ratio: 0/1/0 Mission Ratio: 3/1 Written: 23 3DS FC: 0061-0480-8311 690/693/721 Dex Completion
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| DarkGricer | Sep 9 2014, 09:49 PM Post #38 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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I don't get what you're saying? Are you saying that Orcas think a creature they literally just killed is going to be rotten and infected? I'm not talking about them just finding a dead body and not playing with it. I'm talking about them finding live prey and playing with it to the death, after which they don't care anymore, despite the fact that they could just as easily keep on playing with it. |
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Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
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| Clockwork | Sep 9 2014, 09:56 PM Post #39 |
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Well yes, but the concept can still apply. Something isn't working the way it should anymore, therefore it is broken, therefore it is bad. It's far more likely than something isn't screaming in pain anymore, therefore I can't get off to its pain, therefore my hateboner is gone. |
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Monsters: Platty Bomb-Blaster Swarm (100) Underworld (Blest, Elysium, & Tartarus) Minithulu Troop (6: Alfred, Abbs, J, Bob, Todd, & the Doctor) Bomber Acroman King Cobroth Badgewrath (Wrath) Prometheoyster (Sorrow) Monglut (Gluttony) Corpslumber (Sloth) Monitoxin & Serpoison (Famine & Pestilence) Carnalug (Lust) Lucifer (Pride) Battalion (War) Covetitan (Greed) Grieffon Pack (Death, Swords, Plague, Beasts, & the pups, collectively named Hell) Irewood (Envy) Formicaesar Legion (Conquest) Apollyon (Vainglory) Blitzlax (Discouragement) Babylon Rose (Fornication) The Mass (Khaos) Uranian Floating Octopus (Ouranos) Almater (Gaea) Nemean Antlion (Tartaros) Bleeding Hato (Eros) Hadalbender (Erebos) COMING "SOON": Juggernaut & Dreadnought Five doses of ??? Protogenoi Loves- 3/8 done Destrux, my origin story Credits: 5282 EEC: Gazenobra, Northern Kinhound, Fraternaraptor, Chocobornis, Vibrant Minami, Kakapwn Battle Ratio: 12/0/10 Team Ratio: 0/1/0 Mission Ratio: 3/1 Written: 23 3DS FC: 0061-0480-8311 690/693/721 Dex Completion
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| DarkGricer | Sep 10 2014, 06:05 AM Post #40 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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That would make them the only animal I can think of that would think that. And if a fresh body = bad, then how come Orcas are known to scavenge? If they'd rather not mess with a fresh kill, you'd think they'd stay away from something that's who knows how old. |
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Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
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| Clockwork | Sep 10 2014, 08:44 AM Post #41 |
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I don't know. I'm not really arguing that this is the reason for them to stop playing with prey, just arguing against your idea that there are no other explanations. |
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Monsters: Platty Bomb-Blaster Swarm (100) Underworld (Blest, Elysium, & Tartarus) Minithulu Troop (6: Alfred, Abbs, J, Bob, Todd, & the Doctor) Bomber Acroman King Cobroth Badgewrath (Wrath) Prometheoyster (Sorrow) Monglut (Gluttony) Corpslumber (Sloth) Monitoxin & Serpoison (Famine & Pestilence) Carnalug (Lust) Lucifer (Pride) Battalion (War) Covetitan (Greed) Grieffon Pack (Death, Swords, Plague, Beasts, & the pups, collectively named Hell) Irewood (Envy) Formicaesar Legion (Conquest) Apollyon (Vainglory) Blitzlax (Discouragement) Babylon Rose (Fornication) The Mass (Khaos) Uranian Floating Octopus (Ouranos) Almater (Gaea) Nemean Antlion (Tartaros) Bleeding Hato (Eros) Hadalbender (Erebos) COMING "SOON": Juggernaut & Dreadnought Five doses of ??? Protogenoi Loves- 3/8 done Destrux, my origin story Credits: 5282 EEC: Gazenobra, Northern Kinhound, Fraternaraptor, Chocobornis, Vibrant Minami, Kakapwn Battle Ratio: 12/0/10 Team Ratio: 0/1/0 Mission Ratio: 3/1 Written: 23 3DS FC: 0061-0480-8311 690/693/721 Dex Completion
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| DarkGricer | Sep 10 2014, 08:52 AM Post #42 |
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Ah, I see. Well, I did say it was the only thing I could think of, not that the hateboner is the only explanation. |
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Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
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| Saidilophosaurus | Sep 13 2014, 05:42 PM Post #43 |
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I used to have a load of Titans in the vein of Pyrotitan. Two were Malotitan and Optimatitan, Evil and Good respectively. |
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| DarkGricer | Sep 17 2014, 02:17 PM Post #44 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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So, is there still a problem with this, or what do I need to do to get this thing accepted. |
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Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
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| Sir.Oswald | Sep 17 2014, 06:02 PM Post #45 |
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Apparently explain stuff more in-depth. I say this after reading this topic and getting confused multiple times over. I also do realize that my opinion does not matter when it comes to this. |
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Steam name-Sinister Saint Revelations 6:5 When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6 Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds of wheat for a day’s wages, and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!” | |
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