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Civilization V
Topic Started: Aug 28 2014, 11:39 AM (4,558 Views)
Tyltalis
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Mine tends to not recognize a few, including Canada, Australia, and Philippines. I'm not sure why though as it seems to work decently for most people.
Creatures:
Greater Leatherwing Mii Animiavis Speedaroo Quetzalimimus Carnotherisaurus Osteolorodermus
Hytrasaurus
Money: 24900
Dedicated to my beloved spouse
with love ~<3
Touch the wind. Catch my love as it goes sailing
Touch the wind and I'll be close to you
I'll be easy to find
on the winds of the morning I'll come sailing
I'll be easy to find
and, baby, I'll be close to you
Touch the wind... [/SIZE]

R.I.P Legalosaurus, my younger brother, a dearest of friends, and beloved charge.
"The Heir will tear down the walls & reveal the truth of our hearts."
Dragon Flying type, mind you.
albinoraptor,May 4 2014
07:21 PM
MLS is, and always will be, slightly more intelligent than Ayn Rand.

GD
 
I like how you’ve crossed out the actually sensible thing, in favor of being Smaug.

The best thing that's happened to me in a long long time. Welcome back bro, I've missed you.
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My Venice game is going interesting.

I'm playing on the Mediterranean map and it is Turn 393 (1973 AD) so I'll start with where everyone is; The Celts control Syria, Israel, and Jordan. Russia controls most of Turkey, Georgia, and that bit of actual Russia next to the Black Sea. India has Ukraine, Romania, and coastal Bulgaria. Morocco has the area around Austria/ Hungary. Korea is on the Atlantic coast of France. Byzantium is In Portugal and Morocco. Spain has Algeria. Indonesia has Tunsia and western Libya. Babylon has eastern Libya and western Egypt. And then there's me. I've got city-state puppets in northern Greece (at the north end of the bay between Greece and Turkey) another where real!Venice is, one on the toe of Italy, another on the cost between Spain and Indonesia, soon-to-be one around the Mediterranean coast between France and Spain, one at the mouth of the Nile, and another in northern Arabia.

But where is my capital?
On the Nile, five tiles from the bottom of the map, surrounded by desert. Lovely, right? Especially when it's the only city I can build wonders in/control. I had next to no production until I built Petra and thank God for that or I would have been f'ed. On the plus side though while bad for trading, being in more-or-less the middle of nowhere make Venice less of a target, and my other cities can take car of trade just fine. Plus, I got the first religion thanks to Desert Folklore which is still hauling me in loads of Faith. Plus I was in range of five Sugar resources so that's been nice.

Religion in a nutshell is that I've got Babylon and Indonesia under my religion, but the spread-out nature of my cities makes it a bit of a fight to extend it much to the north. Then I've got The Celts right next door with their own religion who I've been having a "non-military religious war" with ever since they started their religion.

Now in terms of ACTUAL warfare there has been very little overall. Way back the Celts fought Babylon, but that was purely because Babylon tried to rapidly settle in the space between me and The Celts. Once the Celts had those colonies that was the end of it. Byzantium and Spain recently had a spat, but it ended a stalemate. Spain has since declared war on Indonesia, albeit they had some prompting from me since Indonesia was starting to get a bit aggressive and d***ish. I also know that Russia and The Celts have issues but haven't declared war yet. Shame, because Russia didn't found a religion so if they took the Celts land I could start converting without consequence.

That said, the Celts have one other issue that also regards me and Russia, and that Morocco suffers from too. And that is that Russia and I have both adopted Freedom, I'm leading in tourism, and both Morocco and The Celts adopted Order. Right now things are REALLY bad for Morocco. As in, I didn't mention it before but one of their cities just revolted and joined me. And not just a small one, but one of their main cities. And it's only going to get worse since I've got congress in the works of enacting Freedom as the World Ideology.

Overall though, I'm doing better than I would have initially thought. I'm in the lead on the demographics for population, GNP, approval, literacy, and much to my shock solders.
Chris Perkins
 

Today, I'm going to be takin' these four fine folks into the biggest, meanest dungeon in the Forgotten Realms, and I don't know if they're gonna survive.
...But I'm cool with that.


ToD Level-Up Status: 7/8
3DS FC: 4356-0410-5185

Credits:
89,500

Monsters:
Pachysailosaurus, Sadaptoren, Raptagian, Carnosaurus, Gastoxic, Paladonstrum, Molick, Floraptor, Politisk, Goragon, Balalisto, Autoris, Wintarcus, Aquavenus, Torvofelis, Chelonosuchus, Dazzlewurm, Drakhaos, Insequs, Dracoceras, Mercury, Terra, Chess Spider, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Stonewrecker, Jupiter,
EEC:
Pterohynus, Vulakat,

Creature Concepts:
The Planets/Roman Gods (Mercury*, Venus*, Terra*, Mars*, Jupiter*, Saturn*, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto)
The Norse Gods(Thor, Loki, Odin)
Ultimate Leviathan, Mammalian Dragon, Black Hunter Whale(Venatorcetus), Summanus,
Remakes (Klog, Komodoking)
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Fleeshstar
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TBH I don't like Venice because keeping your happiness and culture up with only one working city is just too difficult, even if you are doing well everywhere else, just because of all the puppets.

Also all of Colonialist Legacies works for me but IIRC Philippines is bugged and you can't pick it from the advanced setup for some reason.
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CCW: I am back but will be leaving periodically for like a minute at a time because, as predicted, my clay pot's toilet is broken

Originals:
Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog
Normal:
Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown
Carnalug Clause
Magascutum, Wheel
Nani:
Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider
God-Tier:
Ako, Xuanwu
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DinoFlame
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How? Sure, happiness is a bit more difficult in the early game but once you're up and going you can buy out or ally yourself with the city-states that have luxuries, and buy happiness buildings in your puppet cities. Culture on the other hand is, if anything, easier. Puppets don't count towards the number of cities/increase policy cost so it's like you've only got one city, except you're gaining culture from ALL your cities.
Chris Perkins
 

Today, I'm going to be takin' these four fine folks into the biggest, meanest dungeon in the Forgotten Realms, and I don't know if they're gonna survive.
...But I'm cool with that.


ToD Level-Up Status: 7/8
3DS FC: 4356-0410-5185

Credits:
89,500

Monsters:
Pachysailosaurus, Sadaptoren, Raptagian, Carnosaurus, Gastoxic, Paladonstrum, Molick, Floraptor, Politisk, Goragon, Balalisto, Autoris, Wintarcus, Aquavenus, Torvofelis, Chelonosuchus, Dazzlewurm, Drakhaos, Insequs, Dracoceras, Mercury, Terra, Chess Spider, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Stonewrecker, Jupiter,
EEC:
Pterohynus, Vulakat,

Creature Concepts:
The Planets/Roman Gods (Mercury*, Venus*, Terra*, Mars*, Jupiter*, Saturn*, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto)
The Norse Gods(Thor, Loki, Odin)
Ultimate Leviathan, Mammalian Dragon, Black Hunter Whale(Venatorcetus), Summanus,
Remakes (Klog, Komodoking)
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Fleeshstar
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You can't buy things in puppet cities so the terrible AI just focuses on one thing and that's all it gets. Usually you end up leading in science or gold because of this (because Venice really needed those extra trade routes...) but even though I focused on culture and gold as my Venice game, I was still eventually influenced by Germany, and then no matter how many happiness producing buildings I got, I couldn't get any higher than 19 or so unhappiness because of the ideologies.
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CCW: I am back but will be leaving periodically for like a minute at a time because, as predicted, my clay pot's toilet is broken

Originals:
Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog
Normal:
Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown
Carnalug Clause
Magascutum, Wheel
Nani:
Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider
God-Tier:
Ako, Xuanwu
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Fleeshstar,Oct 8 2014
02:06 PM
I was still eventually influenced by Germany, and then no matter how many happiness producing buildings I got, I couldn't get any higher than 19 or so unhappiness because of the ideologies.

I'd post a picture of laughing germans, but no such thing exists.
I am the King of Putrescine and Sulphur.

Creatures (paid for)
Gurath
Mawworm
Cheetah Beetle
Scampi
Lurkiller
Weevion
Saidilophosaurus
Pyrotitan

Credits
10450

Pipeline
Aerotitan - Flying Skewer/Manta Ray/Elasmosaur omnivore that body checks things, electrical current
Hydrotitan - Great big ragworm with electric field, can suck in smaller things with bladderwort traps, bio-luminescence bursts, makes whirlpools
Chomatitan - Great big starfish thing. Ridiculously heavy, can spray out clouds of dust and salt. Lots of armour and thick blubber, slams arms to shark the earth.
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Skarsgar
Redux: Sharguana, Hellhound
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Tyltalis
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But Flish, I thought the Venetian UA allows one to buy stuff in their puppets...
Creatures:
Greater Leatherwing Mii Animiavis Speedaroo Quetzalimimus Carnotherisaurus Osteolorodermus
Hytrasaurus
Money: 24900
Dedicated to my beloved spouse
with love ~<3
Touch the wind. Catch my love as it goes sailing
Touch the wind and I'll be close to you
I'll be easy to find
on the winds of the morning I'll come sailing
I'll be easy to find
and, baby, I'll be close to you
Touch the wind... [/SIZE]

R.I.P Legalosaurus, my younger brother, a dearest of friends, and beloved charge.
"The Heir will tear down the walls & reveal the truth of our hearts."
Dragon Flying type, mind you.
albinoraptor,May 4 2014
07:21 PM
MLS is, and always will be, slightly more intelligent than Ayn Rand.

GD
 
I like how you’ve crossed out the actually sensible thing, in favor of being Smaug.

The best thing that's happened to me in a long long time. Welcome back bro, I've missed you.
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DinoFlame
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It does.

Heck, right now I'm apparently leading in happiness. Though to be fair I am cutting it a bit close. I'm at Turn 477 and I'm still working on influencing Byzantium and Russia. I have lots of Faith built up so I can blow some of it to help speed things up.
Chris Perkins
 

Today, I'm going to be takin' these four fine folks into the biggest, meanest dungeon in the Forgotten Realms, and I don't know if they're gonna survive.
...But I'm cool with that.


ToD Level-Up Status: 7/8
3DS FC: 4356-0410-5185

Credits:
89,500

Monsters:
Pachysailosaurus, Sadaptoren, Raptagian, Carnosaurus, Gastoxic, Paladonstrum, Molick, Floraptor, Politisk, Goragon, Balalisto, Autoris, Wintarcus, Aquavenus, Torvofelis, Chelonosuchus, Dazzlewurm, Drakhaos, Insequs, Dracoceras, Mercury, Terra, Chess Spider, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Stonewrecker, Jupiter,
EEC:
Pterohynus, Vulakat,

Creature Concepts:
The Planets/Roman Gods (Mercury*, Venus*, Terra*, Mars*, Jupiter*, Saturn*, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto)
The Norse Gods(Thor, Loki, Odin)
Ultimate Leviathan, Mammalian Dragon, Black Hunter Whale(Venatorcetus), Summanus,
Remakes (Klog, Komodoking)
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Fleeshstar
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I am playing as Tiwanaku currently, which should have been a vanilla civ but whatev

ofc I am going for a sci victory. Tiwanaku is good for this because their UI gives science and faith. Bolivia also spawned and they share a spawn so first thing I did was abduct their settler, eliminating them from building a city. Ofc I had to chase down their warrior. I now had a city with a free worker from the start.
After exploring south, all I found was Kathmandu which spawned where Argentina should for whatever reason. Soon after I was greeted by Colombia and the Inca, who spawned very close and I was worried they would go crazy on me, but so far they have not. Next the Olmec greeted me and that's about all that went on between us.
Eventually after trying to catch up the Inca in science, we set sail around the Caribbean, meeting the Shoshone, America, and Mexico. They were all doing pretty badly for some reason. Next, as I was gained Astronomy and overtook the Inca in science, The Kongo sailed in from Africa. She was worryingly friendly from the start and apparently has the largest army on the entire planet. After some negotiation, I was able to get a world map from her. (The same turn they became the Kongolese Democratic Republic) Apparently, South Africa was owned by the Boers, West Africa was owned mostly by Zimbabwe, Sub-Saharan East Africa and Saharan West Africa were owned by the Kongo, and Saharan East Africa was mostly uninhabited with the exception of a mysterious red civ who had a few cities there. Egypt was holding on with one city surrounded to the north by Assyria and to the south by the Kongo. Assyria ironically, while owning most of what was Egypt, had lost their original land ownings to the Ottomans and Persia. The Kongo had done little exploring of Europe, but had apparently found Poland, Russia, England, Iceland, and a mysterious brown civ at some point. Right now all my Caravels are heading West so it would appear that we won't be seeing these civs any time soon. :P
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CCW: I am back but will be leaving periodically for like a minute at a time because, as predicted, my clay pot's toilet is broken

Originals:
Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog
Normal:
Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown
Carnalug Clause
Magascutum, Wheel
Nani:
Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider
God-Tier:
Ako, Xuanwu
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So awesome! .3.
Once I can get the mods, I'm doing a TSL as Mongolia.

Can't say Civ has been to kind to me this week, though. I did a Random Leader game on a 10 player Continents Plus map. Good news is all of my cities ended up in an area with a nice mix of jungle and non-jungle. Bad news is I only had room around me for two cities in addition to my capital. Plus I was land-locked, and all the other civs on my continent founded religions, as did my nearest off-continent neighbor, so I was completely surrounded by religious pressure and had no where to spread outside my own lands. Even with mixed terrain, my production wasn't great and through the mid-game I got beat to every wonder I wanted. Where I decided to stop I was somewhere near Turn 425. I hadn't gotten to influential over any civs yet, and though I was close with a bunch, there were still a couple that I was way off from. Being landlocked I had met only a couple city-states (on Plus maps, city state all appear on off-continent islands) so I wasn't doing much in congress. About the only success I was having is that Egypt (my northern neighbor) and I were having a bit of a feud, they declared war, and I pulled an army out of my bloated bank account to met them and had Memphis on the ropes.

I might continue it later just to see how it finishes, but in the meantime I started a game as Assyria. Long story short on how that game is going is that I've conquered Egypt, The Maya, and Spain, America is down to its capital, and only indonesia is lef on my continent. Morocco, The Ottomans, Rome, Mongolia, Venice, and one unknown civ await me after that.
Chris Perkins
 

Today, I'm going to be takin' these four fine folks into the biggest, meanest dungeon in the Forgotten Realms, and I don't know if they're gonna survive.
...But I'm cool with that.


ToD Level-Up Status: 7/8
3DS FC: 4356-0410-5185

Credits:
89,500

Monsters:
Pachysailosaurus, Sadaptoren, Raptagian, Carnosaurus, Gastoxic, Paladonstrum, Molick, Floraptor, Politisk, Goragon, Balalisto, Autoris, Wintarcus, Aquavenus, Torvofelis, Chelonosuchus, Dazzlewurm, Drakhaos, Insequs, Dracoceras, Mercury, Terra, Chess Spider, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Stonewrecker, Jupiter,
EEC:
Pterohynus, Vulakat,

Creature Concepts:
The Planets/Roman Gods (Mercury*, Venus*, Terra*, Mars*, Jupiter*, Saturn*, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto)
The Norse Gods(Thor, Loki, Odin)
Ultimate Leviathan, Mammalian Dragon, Black Hunter Whale(Venatorcetus), Summanus,
Remakes (Klog, Komodoking)
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Tyltalis
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Ah, Tiwanaku! I only played as them once but I did get Alexander to willingly capitulate to me so I would say that it was a pretty good game haha. Anyways, that sounds awesome so far, Flish! I wonder how the late game will look! And I was completely unaware that the Olmec and Zimbabwe were on TSL! And nice touch there with Bolivia! I did that once to someone when I was playing as the Inca on a very overpopulated South America on TSL haha, it was awesome.

Dang, that random leader game sounds like it was very unfortunate, DF. I hate being landlocked or surrounded and being both sounds like hell. But hey at least your Assyria game seems to be going great! And hopefully you'll be able to get those mods soon! Though I must admit my experience with TSL Mongolia hasn't been all that great since everyone seems so far away and their starting location is incredibly poor (the Gobi shows love for nobody). Your best bet would probably be to scout the area for horse resources asap and settle near that and when you do make your move probably move in on China and Siam first. From there, Korea is a bit awkward to attack and I can only imagine Japan will be nearly impossible to take using only cavalry. India is protected by a crap ton of rivers, jungles, and mountain ranges so that'll likely be a pain and from there Europe and the Middle East aren't as rugged but are quite a ways away unfortunately. Hopefully you'll do great though!

So far I've played a couple games but the one I'm currently playing as I've set so that I control six civs and the AI controls the other six. Safavid Persia spawned in a vast grassland and is doing decently so far and probably is the biggest empire so far, though unfortunately everyone is too far away to properly attack. To the north of there on the other side of a mountain range is the Armenian Republic which is a small nation on the edge of the Great Barrier Reef and is the world's leader in technological advances. To the east of Armenia and across yet another mountain range is Sumer, a mysterious empire that has been fairly aggressive to basically everyone. To the east of the Safavids and the south of Sumer in a secluded, cold, and heavily forested peninsula housing Bavaria, the world's leader in production and home of practically all of the ancient era wonders. To the east of both Bavaria and Sumer is the Khmer Kingdom, which is quite friendly to the western world with the exception of Sumer who is in a perpetual state of war with them and is constantly trying to get its neighbors to join in on the action. To the north of Sumer is a very thin, very secluded stretch of land heading up north for a large stretch of the globe, growing thicker the further north it goes as well as housing the great rock, Uluru. Going even further north from there the isthmus finally expands into a new continent that's eastern side appears to be very heavily forested and inhabited by the Celtic Chiefdom. Going West from there yet another (if much smaller) isthmus connects the region to a subcontinent that is very nearly uninhabited other than by the Bohemian Chiefdom. From there, somewhere across the world, in another snowy and heavily forested continent lives the Kingdom of Lithuania. On the edge of a lake to the east of Lithuania is a city-state name Sealand and on an isthmus to the north of it is another city-state named Venice. However, separating the two is the Assyrian Great Kingdom. Then, to the south east of Sealand is Ethiopia who is constantly encroaching on Sealand. War between Sealand and Ethiopia may soon break out but in the mean time the four nations of the mainland are at war with Venice.
And that's the known world so far. I presume that the Safavids will warmonger in the middle ages and cripple Armenia, Bavaria, and Sumer, but I doubt it'll be strong enough to destroy them completely and will be just another third world country by the late game. Bavaria will probably eventually expand south into the rest of its peninsula and focus primarily on a cultural victory which so far it's been doing a pretty good job at. Armenia will probably get stronger when the first religion is founded and will likely go for a scientific victory while defending itself from Sumer and the Safavids. Bohemia will likely become a religious powerhouse later on and will probably be the first civ to send out caravels when the time comes, but they'll probably come into conflict with the Celts later on. The Celts will also probably found their religion soon and will likely engage Bohemia in holy war but likely won't do anything significant much like the Safavids. Sumer will probably continue to harass the Khmer and Armenia and might also expand towards the Celts but over all it doesn't seem like much of a threat. The Khmer are too mysterious so who knows what they'll do. Sealand will probably fight Ethiopia a few times but will ultimately be conquered by Assyria. Venice will probably be part of Assyria soon as well. Lithuania will probably grow large enough to rival Bavaria in production later into the game and will likely get into a lot of fights with Assyria and Ethiopia. Ethiopia will probably become a religious powerhouse and will probably spend it's days trying to force Lithuania to convert and defending itself from Assyria. So in essence the Safavids will grow up to be the Ottomen/Persia/Mongolia, Bavaria will be France, Bohemia will be Spain, Armenia will be Germany, Sumer will also be the USSR, the Khmer will be Eastern Europe, Ethiopia will be the Maya, Assyria will be the Aztecs, Lithuania will be the Inca, the Celts will be Portugal, and Venice/Sealand will be extinct. Or at least, those are my predictions and analogies for this game.
Creatures:
Greater Leatherwing Mii Animiavis Speedaroo Quetzalimimus Carnotherisaurus Osteolorodermus
Hytrasaurus
Money: 24900
Dedicated to my beloved spouse
with love ~<3
Touch the wind. Catch my love as it goes sailing
Touch the wind and I'll be close to you
I'll be easy to find
on the winds of the morning I'll come sailing
I'll be easy to find
and, baby, I'll be close to you
Touch the wind... [/SIZE]

R.I.P Legalosaurus, my younger brother, a dearest of friends, and beloved charge.
"The Heir will tear down the walls & reveal the truth of our hearts."
Dragon Flying type, mind you.
albinoraptor,May 4 2014
07:21 PM
MLS is, and always will be, slightly more intelligent than Ayn Rand.

GD
 
I like how you’ve crossed out the actually sensible thing, in favor of being Smaug.

The best thing that's happened to me in a long long time. Welcome back bro, I've missed you.
Descendant of the mighty Juan-Juan Empire, Legacy of Nobody, Kin of Blixia
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1: Now that I think of it, I don't think I've had a single coastal capital since I've started playing again...
But yeah, it rather bit. Plus, I don't think I mentioned it, I was attacked three times by The Aztecs. I mean, they were as effective as attacking a wall with a ping-pong ball, but on top of everything else it wasn't helping me any.

2: Hey, I have played and won the Mongol scenario before. I have a pretty good idea what I'm getting into. :lol:
But yeah, that's pretty much my plan. Take out China and Siam, then head for Europe. I'm not too worried about the distance since I'll be using an entirely mounted army. Plus, the Keshiks' hit-and-run nature makes them really nice for wearing down larger/stronger armies if needed.
I just realized, I never posted anything here about my latest game as Mongolia. I'll get to that in a moment.

3: Ah, that sounds interesting! And I didn't know there were mods to let you play as six civs at once. I'll have to look into that when I can! :)


Okay, so my latest game as Mongolia went like this. It was a Huge Continents Plus map, and I spawned in sort of the mid south-west of a continent, just nicely above the Tundra line. I found Siam to my north, halfway up the west coast (though not on the coast). Arabia was to my east, near but not on the coast. China was north of Arabia, so to the north-east of my capital. Then I found out about The Aztecs, to the north of Siam. I founded Beshbalik on the coast to my west, and then Turfan to my north-east, right beside Arabia. I declared war on Arabia next, thinning out their forces with a few archers/bowmen that were eventually accompanied by a horseman. After taking out their forces I started to attack their capital, but then negotiated a peace treaty for their only other city. I regrouped my forces and then took their capital and eliminated them as soon as the treaty ended.

Then I sent my forces - about three bowmen and horsemen- towards Siam and declared war. During this march, China lost its capital to -although I didn't meet them yet at that time- Sweden. That left China with only a single city. Anyway, I used my existing forces to start taking out Siam's armies, meanwhile I started producing my first Keshiks and sent them to start the attack on the Siamese capital. The siege was a fairly long one, and though I really couldn't have gone faster I wasn't trying to go fast. In the time I was attacking, Siam built both the Forbidden Palace and Globe Theater, in addition to eight or so other wonders they already had, which I was quite happy to take when I captured the city. After that things started moving quickly and I took their other couple cities to the north.

Now, I think it was somewhere in there that I officially met Sweden, and also met The Netherlands. The Netherlands had the north-east coast, which went on an angle towards the west past Bejing in the areas they controlled. So it was as much or more the north coast as it was the north-east coast is I guess what I'm saying. Sweden meanwhile was stationed on the north-west tip of the continent, plus had Beijing as I said before, and then had a couple colonies nearby in basically the middle of the continent.

I kept sending my armies north up the west-side and wiped out The Aztecs. During this time I became aware that the Netherlands were plotting against me, and they had also founded a colony -The Hague- south of Turfan and directly bordering on my Arabian cities' western borders. Lastly, the also founded the World Congress, which was like Christmas for me. Unsurprisingly, my warmongering had made me into "The Hated" and no-one was willing to do and worthwhile trade with me. So how happy was I that I could make trade deals with all these other civs that had yet to know of my nation-killing hobbies. So far the next 30 turns at least I had a really good boost to my resources.

I'll take a quick detour here to describe and introduce the rest of the world. I got embassies with all the other civs I met through congress so I knew where their capitals were, but I didn't learn much of the details I'm going to cover now until later. The Inca were situated on the south-east coast with a coastal capital. To the north of them was Greece, who also had a coastal capital at the north-east corner of the continent, on the north coast on the outside of a bit of a bay. Mostly their lands stretched south towards The Inca. West of Greece, still on the north coast, were The Iroquois. Their capital was inland off of the north-west corner of the continent. Their lands stretched a little bit south by a few cities, but most stretched eastwards to the opposite side of the bay where Athens is. Then, south of The Iroquois mid-way along was Korea. They were fairly small with a few coastal cities, and a inland capital built on a small inland sea. South of them then was Indina, with their capital just off of the coast by about three or four tiles. The Inca, Greece, and Iroquois were definitely the main powers on the continent.

In relation to my own continent, there was a large sea between my west coats and their east. From my east to their west, however, was a very narrow and shallow sea that goes a long way to explaining why The Netherlands were able to found Congress.

At that point, I forget what my proposal to congress was, except that I don't think it ended up passing. The Netherlands meanwhile proposed an Embargo on me. So with the previous information I ha from my spies, take a guess where I marched my armies next? By the time Congress was in session, I had made peace with The Netherlands but had left them with only The Hague -right next door to my base of power should they have somehow tried to make a comeback. Unfortunately the Embargo on me still got passed, but on the same hand China -and now The Hague- were the only civs I could really trade with anyway.

As soon as I was done with The Netherlands, that left me only one opponent on my continent: Sweden. My armies continued from the south end of the former Netherlands to take Beijing, then the Swedish colonies, and then finally to the farthest north to wipe out Sewden and secure my control of the continent. Now it was only me, China with their few small cities, and The Hague.

Worldwide a few other things happened around the time I was attacking Sweden. Greece and The Inca were at war, and as my spy saw, Greek units were attacking the Incan capital (though doing a poor job of it). As I later found out, I gather that the Greeks must have conquered or been given some cities. Machu, for example, was under Greek control when I first found it later in the game. The World Congress also entered the next era during this time, with Greece having a horde of city-states behind it. However, they didn't become the host, because I put my votes on India. Which in hindsight probably wasn't the smartest move, since if Greece had become the host I would have been in line for making the second proposal. It did get me some thanks from India and put a wrench in Greece's plans for that era, at least. I did end up doing what I should have done and let Greece take host for the next era. That's getting ahead of things, but that finishes off all there really is to be said about Congress in this game.

Back to me though, after beating Sweden I took the lesson I learned from my last game as Mongolia and retired my horde to garrison and barbarian duty while I looked after all the land I'd conquered. Going into and throughout the Industrial Era I started to Caravels to explore the seas, and Archeologists to excavate the relics across my continent. I began building up my Netherland cities for naval production, meanwhile Beshbalik, already ready for production, began producing some ships. Also during this time Greece declared war on Korea and captured their capital. Following that Greece ended up at war with The Iroquois. The Iroquois meanwhile became surprisingly friendly, which I can only assume has a lot to do with the fact we shared an ideology.

But then came the Modern Era. From Beshbalik I sent out the first of my navy; an Ironclad and some Battleships, followed a bit after by a Carrier loaded with four Bombers. With the long crossing over the wide sea, I sent my Ironclad ahead, soon caught up to by the Battleships, and the Carrier still on the way after them. My first target; Athens. Within a couple turns with no resistance I captured Athens, and how perfect was the timing that I'd just gotten the Iron Curtain tenet? Answer; very perfect. With Greece having no other coastal cities I went to the other side of the bay and started capturing city after city along the coast from the Iroquois. Meanwhile, my fleet from the Netherland cities was setting out across the narrow sea to attack from the other side. During that fight with the Iroquois, Greece made no attempt to reclaim Athens. And then they offered me a peace treaty that gave me the Korean capital!!! I captured all of the Iroquois coastal cities and made peace for with them for a couple more of their cities, at which point my carrier was just ariving and in range to bomb their capital. At that point I split up my navy, sending some back east to The Inca, and keeping the rest on the west coast ready to move south on a coastal Korean city directly north of the Indian capital.

I think things went something like this then. I stared my attack on the Iroquois capital, and during that attack I sent some units over to the former Korean capital via Airport. Those units started their own attack on another Iroquois city which I captured around the same time I got the capital, and then I got a few more cities in the peace treaty. My attack on the Incan capital went smoothly and ended up wiping The Inca out because Greece had gotten all their other cities. At. The same time, my navy fought Korea's Turtle Ships with aid of a neighboring city-state ally, then took the city that would be my staging point for the attack on India.

India took a bit of work since their capital was off the coast, but it did fall. My Battleships cleared the land between city and coast, my aerial units bombed the city, my Destroyers and SAM cleared out their airforces, and then I just had to send a unit in to make the capture. And so it was that I won the game on Turn 414 with 12 capitals under my control.

And then after that glorious victory, I got screwed over as Brazil. :fistshake: :P
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Well Assyria fell before we could meet them. However I have seen most of the world. The only war I've seen in the New World is between the Olmecs and Inca who do not seem to like each other for some reason. Everyone else in the New World is buds besides Colombia who is a recluse who I have not seen do anything but fail miserably in science.

The Old World is completely ravaged by war. Tibet is the only Asia civ who spawned and only shares a small border with Persia and Zimbabwe who settled India. Africa is mostly a mess of cities owned by the wrong civs because of war before I met them, though somehow they all kept their original capitals except Egypt. Iberia is uninhabited except for a small Boer colony, and most of Western Europe is too except for parts of France which are owned by England. Poland owns most of Eastern Europe except for small bits of Russia, who has lost their capital to Poland unsurprisingly. Iceland isn't doing that bad despite their terrible spawn, but they could do much better I'm sure.

Also those two mystery civs are Benin and some mongolian-jerusalem hybrid thing. :P
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Fleeshstar,Oct 19 2014
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some mongolian-jerusalem hybrid thing. :P

Hahah, what? :lol:
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DF1: I love having coastal capitals! Of course, they also tend to need a lot more defending especially if you're stuck with a strong maritime power in your game but overall I like it, mostly because of the Exploration bonuses.
DF2: Very true haha! I booted up a new TSL game and found that Mongolia isn't toooooooo bad as long as you stay out of the Gobi and more towards Siberia. From there, getting to the Asian powers shouldn't bee too hard except for those protected by the mountains north of India and across the strait to Japan. The Middle East and North Africa should be pretty easy to take though. Europe.... is way too forested, god save you if you get the Celts or the British in your game. From there, Shaka would probably be easier to take through a maritime invasion, since its probably a lot easier than marching your troops through either the Great Rift Valley or the Congo, neither of which are very pleasant or easy to cross. From there the New World/Indonesia/Polynesia might be the biggest problems if only because they're insanely far away. Overall though, it shouldn't be too insanely hard though. I look forward to hearing how all of it goes!!!
DF3: It's actually not a Mod, you could do it right now if you want haha. Just go to Multiplayer and setup a hotseat/local/whatever game and switch whichever civs you want to be "Human" instead of "AI" and it basically functions like an offline multiplayer. I just happened to try it out using my mods is all since I like doing that when I download more than three new civs at once.
DF4: Dang! That Mongolia game sounded so epic! And dangit Brazil!!!! I do however, really look forward to seeing how things go in the TSL Mongolia game!!!
Flish1: Nice! Doesn't sound too bad then! In my last TSL as the Inca, Brazil and I fought, Brazil and I attacked the Maya, the Aztecs attacked the Maya and America, the Iroquois killed off the remains of America, it was a complete bloodbath half of the time. By the late game I had all of Latin America except for a few Aztec cities in northern Mexico, and the Caribbean belonged to Brazil with their new capital being Belo Horizonte in Cuba. The Aztecs owned all of the Midwest and the American south and the Iroquois owned New England. And as usual Canada remained uninhabited forevermore. At some point the Dutch, the Ottomen, and Songhai had colonized parts of South America but I quashed said colonies and assimilated them into my empire. Though no matter what the old-world civs are always way more violent. Especially Poland.
DF5: He means Khazar Khaganate, one of the many many many many many many many many many many many former Mongol territories that got turned into a Mod. Khazaria was basically the occupant of that awkward piece of land nobody remembers between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea. While I don't have that mod, Khazaria does indeed seem to be Jewish Mongolia.
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