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| Fleeshstar | Apr 9 2017, 12:51 PM Post #1 |
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What did Flish Shake Even Mean
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Name (of creature): Breadgun Height: 70 feet Length: 200 feet Weight: 13000 tons Base DNA: Stag beetle, Electric Eel, Diplodocus, Velvetworm, House fly, Spitting Spider, Scaly-footed Gastropod, Chinook salmon Abilities: Shooting projectiles, electric shock, absorb blows, shoot "glue" up to 300 feet away Weaknesses: Very slow, not especially smart, takes time to get up if it rolls over, it has to concentrate for a few seconds to properly place projectiles between its mandibles, is rather picky with its projectiles Defenses: thick hide, thick layers of fat, glue, shooting projectiles, electric shock Special Attributes: Can produce extremely high currents of over 16,000 volts to protect itself from the specialized muscles in its body. It can also channel this current through its mandibles to fleshy pads at the tip and then into a projectile and back into the other mandible, allowing it to almost instantly melt the projectile and send it travelling well over mach 7 at its opponents. It can also use its pincers as electric prods if necessary. It can spit an organic glue at opponents from up to 300 feet away with surprising accuracy to slow opponents down. It can pivot in place very fast for its size, and will roll over opponents if necessary. Its proboscis is very dexterous and surprisingly strong, and it uses its proboscis to find gastroliths which is stores in its stomach and drops in between its mandibles before firing. It picks what stones it wants by scent and taste, only using ones with high ore contents. The size of stone varies, but generally is around 2 to 3 feet across. Description: A very fat and stocky grub with six legs on every segment, giant mandibles, and a pair of papillae above the mandibles. Its color makes it almost identical to a bread loaf, except for the head, which is a metallic silver. Their proboscis sits below a jaw-like plate on the head, and can reach a little further than the tip of the mandibles. LOGI Info: Breadguns are slow and humble grazers, using their proboscis to siphon small grasses from the ground, often in a circle around it, before the animal moves over a body-length away and creates a new circle there. This creates large crop-circle like patterns wherever they go, making it very evident if a Breadgun is in the area. Breadguns stay in their larval form for several decades before they shed their skin as adult beetles. These beetles only live for a few hours, as they lay their eggs and die. All Breadguns are parthenogenetic. Young breadguns live underground, feeding on tree roots, but after reaching approximately 40 feet in length, they surface and move to the open plains. Very peaceful unless attacked, Breadguns do not bother other creatures. However, if they spot another Breadgun, they will attempt to kill their rival as to prevent competition for stones and food. Breadguns do not like to fire projectiles at opponents unless they feel they will hit the opponent- as such, they will usually try to ensnare the opponent in glue first to at least slow them down before shooting projectiles, aiming for the eyes or legs if possible with their projectiles.
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Originals: Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog Normal: Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown Carnalug Clause Magascutum, Wheel Nani: Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider God-Tier: Ako, Xuanwu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5343-9163-0037![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| Fleeshstar | Apr 9 2017, 03:33 PM Post #2 |
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What did Flish Shake Even Mean
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Originals: Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog Normal: Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown Carnalug Clause Magascutum, Wheel Nani: Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider God-Tier: Ako, Xuanwu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5343-9163-0037![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| DarkGricer | Apr 9 2017, 03:39 PM Post #3 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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Height to length ratio seems off, based on the pic. Especially if the mandibles are counted towards the length. |
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| Fleeshstar | Apr 9 2017, 03:46 PM Post #4 |
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What did Flish Shake Even Mean
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you're right, that's my bad. Originally it had short mandibles and I forgot I changed it.
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Originals: Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog Normal: Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown Carnalug Clause Magascutum, Wheel Nani: Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider God-Tier: Ako, Xuanwu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5343-9163-0037![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| DarkGricer | Apr 9 2017, 06:03 PM Post #5 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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Aha, I see. Weight does also seem to be a bit off. My estimate for a 200 foot black sea hare was around 3500 tons. Now, Breadgun here does have more vertical bulk than a black sea hare, but a decent portion of its length is also mandibles. So for this calculation, I will assume the mandibles are around 1/5'th of its body length, and thus about 40 feet in length. So I will scale the slug to 160 feet long. The result is a 1820 ton slug. Now, bulky as the sea hare is, as mentioned, this thing even more so, plus it has other add ons and stuff. So I think increasing the weight result by somewhere between 200-250% should give a reasonable result, which would be between 3640 and 4550 tons. Seems reasonable if you ask me. |
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Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
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| Fleeshstar | Apr 10 2017, 01:40 PM Post #6 |
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What did Flish Shake Even Mean
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The reason it's so heavy is because its mandibles have iron rods going up the length of them connected to the electrocytes as this is a requirement for the electromagnetic force to work properly. It has 40 ft iron bars in its face. Also, I used a black sea hare (2.4 feet, .015 tons) as well and got 8680 tons, and added an extra 320 tons to compensate for the height and mandibles. |
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Originals: Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog Normal: Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown Carnalug Clause Magascutum, Wheel Nani: Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider God-Tier: Ako, Xuanwu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5343-9163-0037![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| DarkGricer | Apr 10 2017, 03:15 PM Post #7 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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Ah I see, but you got it wrong. You see, I double checked the calculation, you did not get 8680 tons, you got about 8680,000 POUNDS. A ton, however, is 2000 pounds, soon actuality, you got 4340 tons. This is why I do my measurements in the metric system. So much more logical. |
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Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
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| Fleeshstar | Apr 10 2017, 04:30 PM Post #8 |
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no? I don't know what mathematical system you're using but: (.015)(200/2.4)^3 = 8,680 tons or if we do it in pounds as you claim I did, you get: (30)(200/2.4)^3 = 1,7361,111 lbs |
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Originals: Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog Normal: Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown Carnalug Clause Magascutum, Wheel Nani: Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider God-Tier: Ako, Xuanwu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5343-9163-0037![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| DarkGricer | Apr 10 2017, 05:52 PM Post #9 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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Oh, forgive me. It seems I was confused. That said, I do see where the difference in the weights of our estimate stem from us using different lengths from the sea hare. Wikipedia gave a length of 1 meter for a 30 lbs individual, whilst the length you are using is closer to 0.75 meters. Also added onto that, I only just realised, but the calculation you assumes that the length of the body is 200 feet. If the mandibles are really 40 feet long, then the weight before add-ons is only 4444 tons (Odd number, I know) using the length/weight combination you used.. |
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Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
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| Fleeshstar | Apr 10 2017, 06:50 PM Post #10 |
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I kept the length at 200 feet to compensate for the thick hide, fat, height, and girth it has on the sea hare. |
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Originals: Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog Normal: Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown Carnalug Clause Magascutum, Wheel Nani: Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider God-Tier: Ako, Xuanwu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5343-9163-0037![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| DarkGricer | Apr 10 2017, 06:54 PM Post #11 |
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Well I guess I did suggest doubling the weight. Though I'm still curious where you got that it was 30 pounds at 2.4 feet. |
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| Fleeshstar | Apr 10 2017, 08:10 PM Post #12 |
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I googled "Black Sea Hare Weight." First thing that shows up. |
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Originals: Goombat, Terrorsheild, Trooafly, Snappermouth, Turkoomz, Crocozin, Poison-Spine Frog Normal: Flamegle, Hogfish, Mulciber, Ignibruchid, Ignitherium, Mantalupus, Urinosaurus, Mapinguari, Furtusuchus, Ingrex, Spitdevil, Malocutis, Russian Rose Fungus, Torpedo Bullwhip, Lusca, Con Rit, Goliath Suncrown Carnalug Clause Magascutum, Wheel Nani: Boletot, Grove, Gattlomonstrum, Titanolimaxus, Armaruptor, Falxohirudus, Cutilamia, The Sorg, Branding Hellworm, Puddlelion, Flesh Louse, Ganglion, Marrolante, Breadgun, Belspider God-Tier: Ako, Xuanwu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5343-9163-0037![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| DarkGricer | Apr 10 2017, 09:08 PM Post #13 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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I see. However, I think I know the problem. There seems to have been a mix up in the source for that length. It uses the maximum weight for the black sea hare, but assigns the maximum length of the californian sea hare to it instead of the black sea hare's maximum length (Which is 99 centimeters instead of 75). The californian sea hare's maximum weight, however, is only about 15 pounds. Coincidentally, that happens to be the same height/weight ratio that gave me a result of 4340 tons for a 200 foot slug. |
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Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
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| Fleeshstar | Apr 11 2017, 02:06 PM Post #14 |
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I did the calculations for a goliath beetle larva that is 160 feet long and got almost 10,000 tons, and that is a much thinner animal so if anything 9,000 tons is probably very light. |
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| DarkGricer | Apr 11 2017, 03:52 PM Post #15 |
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That's Captain Gricer to you, lad!
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I found myself rather skeptical of that result. So I did some quick looking into it. Using the largest measurements I could find (5 inches and 4.1 ounces) I only got a weight of about 7000 tons, which seems much more reasonable. Though, in with that in mind, it does seem I have been underestimating the mass of this thing. So yeah, a mass of 12000-14000 tons would probably suit it. |
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Proud player of: ----------------- ------------------ Mazeer Swiftfoot Beikarahenki - --------- Goliath Fighter ---------- ---------------- -------------------------- Thorin Kirreval ---------- ------- Dragonborn Paladin ------- ----------------- -------------------------------- Alson --------------- --------- Oddball Wizard --------- ----------------- -------------------------- Fafnir Goldheart --------- ------- Hill Dwarf Barbarian ------- ----------------- ------------------------- Shayle Amberwood -------- ------- Human Psycho Binder ------- 3DS Friend code: 0447-6294-9656 Wins: 21 Loses: 13 Ties: 4 Writer of the Battle of the Maze. Battles written: 36 Missions written: 3 Number of battles/missions featuring Tyrannotank written: 7 Number of battles/missions featuring Carnotherisaurus written: 7 Credits: 18550 Creature Coupons: 0 Creatures: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Inherited/Bought: ![]() Upcoming Creatures: Legion, Vucub Caquix, Zipacna, Cabrakan, Thanatos EEC critters: Dragon's Den Gigantoctopodus Vrachotherium
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