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| X£ Nebulous | Dec 15 2008, 01:51 PM Post #51 |
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The rules we add don't necessarily take away from the different skill sets required to be successful, it just accentuates them, the obvious and the secondary. Take the 3 maps you singled out. (I'm going to assume you're lumping these into a pistoling category.) All three are very based in mid/long range pistoling, you'll get no argument from me on that, but all three also require different secondary skills. (The ones you should be using if you're at a ping or shooting disadvantage.) Ratrace: Nades, pacing, nades, nades, and nading. If you have high ping the last place on the map you want to be is where all the shooting happens. Staying near the frag nades and wearing them down is the best strat. A RR game should never end because someone gets to 50, you're best bet is to keep it a low scoring game. Derelict: Spawn points and sniper control. When the other team takes top the correct course of action is go get your teamate a spawn point out of harms way. (Should be practiced whether you have top or not, Der spawn points are some of the easiest to predict.) The best chance of taking the top is when both of you are alive. Isolate one of them into a 2v1 situation and grab or nade the sniper away, it'll make the map a whole lot easier. Hangemhigh: Stealth. Regardless if you're playing pups or not, this map is based on being able to sneak up on or flank the people holding top. A distraction from your teamate or some well placed nades usually do the trick. If you want to be technical, then yes you're right, you should use every skill on every map. But the point I was trying to make was that every map has a certain skill or two that are more useful because of the way the map is layed out. Halo is actually a great game to play competitively, there's a reason all the powerups and heavy weapons are low or in hard to reach places with little cover, they offset the shooting advantage of the top. Since we normally outlaw the use of them, there's nothing else to do except pistol each other. Don't blame the game for rules we've made that pretty much restrict all but basic strategy and accentuate shooting on every single map. Bring back pups! |
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| OTIS350 | Dec 15 2008, 04:00 PM Post #52 |
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OK I dont understand this at all...... Why does invert post clips on here that a downsyndrome baby with leprecy and no hands could do. Its just retarted, its like you want us to give you an award or praise for just playing, when most people in halo could give a shit that you exist. Heres my thoughts, if you want to post a video that people WANT to see, post a video of you breaking your halo cd and you playing outside. That is a montage or clip I would give 5 stars to. |
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| bLoc- | Dec 15 2008, 04:32 PM Post #53 |
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Halo is not a great competitive game no matter how much I wish it was. Ping/lag is a huge advantge as has been highlighted in mainy wowlag or how do i get smaller lead threads. Yeah as you stated you pretty much agreed with me. I can think of one powerup which is in a hard to reach place. It made me lol when you said sniper control but nice try. p.s The rules people have made have done nothing but increase the competitiveness of the game. rockets and frg in 2v2 are so overpowered its ridiculas. |
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| crossfire | Dec 15 2008, 05:13 PM Post #54 |
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READ THE MOTHAFUCKING THREAD, BEFORE YOU MOTHAFUCKIN POST
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so the game isn't competitive because of ping? no |
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| bLoc- | Dec 15 2008, 05:24 PM Post #55 |
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Thats not what i meant but i could see how you got that impression.(shut up beany :P) Ping is a disadvantage to one team as in any game but it affects halo more than most making it harder for people with worse conections. Neb said the rules we make make the game uncompeteive and gave his reaons why (those weapons are in hard to reach places.) However they are not imo and are very unbalanced. |
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| X£ Nebulous | Dec 15 2008, 08:52 PM Post #56 |
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I think we're looking at the game from two very different perspectives; shooting skill vs strategic skill. So we shall have to agree to disagree! B) |
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| Deleted User | Dec 15 2008, 10:04 PM Post #57 |
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Sorry to be the big bad bear and bring on the bad news, but halo is not a 'good' game. There's a reason Halo has No major LAN tournaments, No big named sponsors backing it, No Media coverage, No Pay-to-Play leagues, etc etc. Enjoying a game does not mean the game is good. Sorry bro. :( [Don't get me wrong I enjoy Halo as much as everyone in this thread, but it's the truth whether you want to accept it or not.] |
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| d'Artagnan | Dec 15 2008, 10:25 PM Post #58 |
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Translation: I cheat in every game I play, lie, deceive, boast, impersonate, and somehow that is a support for any argument I choose to make. EDIT: Halo DID have big-name sponsors, then everyone moved to H2, then to H3. I know a lady who plays H2, H3, and Cod4 for Amazon, BestBuy, and the like. In about the same amount of time it took for them to leave H1, they will leave H2, and so on. EDIT 2: The other reason Halo isn't "big" is a developer decision. Valve CHOSE to continue support on its products and mods of its products. Microsoft or Bungie CHOSE not to. This has nothing to do with how "good" the game is, even though there are many things I would change in Halo to give it more depth. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 15 2008, 10:39 PM Post #59 |
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Translation: I cheat in every game I play, lie, deceive, boast, impersonate, and somehow that is a support for any argument I choose to make. I was young and stupid when I made all of those mistakes. Hold them against me for the rest of our time here because I'll never change! EDIT: Halo DID have big-name sponsors, then everyone moved to H2, then to H3. I know a lady who plays H2, H3, and Cod4 for Amazon, BestBuy, and the like Halo1 PC had about a years worth of good marketing. Believe it or not what makes a game popular is the pub noobs/spectators. These game creators could care less about us competitive players, as long as the majority of people who play 'for fun'/the people who keep up with gaming enjoy the game. Unfortunately, gaming fans didn't really pick up on HaloPC. If they did we'd have people like GotFrag and PwnageTV backing us, as well as competitive Leagues and LAN's. And as far as sponsors: You're talking about Xbox, I'm talking about Halo1 for the PC - Just like Nebulous is. This has nothing to do with how "good" the game is, even though there are many things I would change in Halo to give it more depth. So you agree with me, but your too blindly arrogant to say to say it? You're a nerd. Stop trying to be so booksmart and go out and have a social life. -- I'm done after this post because arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall; It will never change and it's a waste of time. |
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| itspandatime | Dec 15 2008, 11:06 PM Post #60 |
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just rage quit u just got baked by neb uG 2eZ pekiface |
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| theGODD² | Dec 15 2008, 11:22 PM Post #61 |
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yo beany shut the fuck up you faggot..ma niggaa straightt upp reall talkk truee storyy werdd too yourr grandmaa shee gonn get coofiedd nigga..iight listen here ima put it in your language dawg..your grandma is my son nigga il palm her nigga shel get cockslapped leave da imprint on her noggin nigga fukk u think dis iss icygod for president holla |
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| d'Artagnan | Dec 15 2008, 11:55 PM Post #62 |
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degenerate, you've probably cheated in the last six months as well. People who are BETTER than you an have VERY GOOD NOSES for cheating are positive you've occasionally pulled a fast one in matches or scrims.
-1 year, OK. Data? Facts? Last seen sponsored tournament? Marketing statistics? -You'll need to convince us about that (pubbers / speccers) -Hm, that may be part of it, but you're completely ignoring decisions made probably by MS -I think CS1.6 isn't popular with newbies anymore---but it's still going!
Umm no, my friend plays on the PC as well as the XBOX 360. Whence the disparity?
No, you just see everything in black & white. Let's take a look:
"More" depth is relative. I would like to improve it, just as CS could be improved & deepened. Almost noone uses certain weapons; why not just toss them out after revision and make new, balanced ones? There is some depth to H1, and there is some depth to CS & its progeny. If Halo didn't have any "depth", it wouldn't be "good". Therefore, according to your present logic, it wouldn't be a "pro" game. ----back to the other line---- You've continued to boast, lie, and deceive to this very day. If you want testimony, you probably know where to find it (or avoid it!). You even got yourself a temporary "PERMABAN" from HPT. Then you came back to HPT, begged for yet another chance, even though I suspect you were all for Sod's permaban in KW. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thus, you, the "socialite", then have the gall to say this:
-Bullet form will suffice to counter what any editor would strip out of his copy -I don't try to be "booksmart" -Is "booksmart" is a semi-nonsensical catchword to collect all the self-hate, guilt, and jealousy for the other kids you think are "better" than you? I'm not. -For starters, define a "social life": -is it "hanging out with ambitionless, maybe visionless, even negative people"? -is it "getting wasted, dude" with the guys & girls who are slowly killing their bodies? -or is it the kind of meaningful human interaction, a communication without impediments, which, if you experienced it more, wouldn't sling about as an insult?
Indeed it is; for you, at least; you might want to stop banging your head against it. Oh, man, look what I wrote there---a waste of words, serving no purpose other than to lightly irk the opponent! |
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| itspandatime | Dec 15 2008, 11:55 PM Post #63 |
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u type worse than mikey and wisdom combined |
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| d'Artagnan | Dec 16 2008, 12:00 AM Post #64 |
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along with ice, tek9, the Beastie Boys, Soulja Boy, and... |
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| bLoc- | Dec 16 2008, 07:55 AM Post #65 |
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Still nothing will change the fact halo pc was not built for the competitive scene and was always a money spiiner even when it took the jump to pc. It did however get luck in its failure with lead making it a much more skilled and suited for the more hard core games. Beany are you trying to say halo 2 and 3 are competitive because they are played at lans :S. £££$$$$$£$£$$£$£$£$£$£$ is the only reason! |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2008, 08:06 AM Post #66 |
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This is all I'm going to respond to: No. Simple as that. I will never make that mistake again. I'm too talented in every game to do that again. |
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| mystik | Dec 16 2008, 08:42 AM Post #67 |
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hey faggot
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BUT WAIT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGKG3Ms-Veg | |
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| X£ Nebulous | Dec 16 2008, 10:15 AM Post #68 |
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I've been arguing more for the Xbox version here...I neglected to mention that. Halo PC came out well after all the hype had died down and the only people that played it were the devoted gamers who didn't want to give up multiplayer as Xbox Halo died. (That's why I switched.) But I adamantly disagree that the original Halo was made to be a cash cow, PC probably, Halo 2 yes, Halo 3 yes. Now a days, the only thing you need for a game to become popular is to make it easy to play. The learning curve in Halo 2 and 3 is so slight you can't even feel yourself get better. This leads to more people playing, more sales, more opportunities, etc etc. But they still owe they're popularity to us, the people that loved Halo when it came out and crammed it down our friends' throats until they loved it. We basically marketed for them, then, to reward all our hard work...they give us Halo 2...suffice it to say, that game is the worst FPS I've ever had the dissatisfaction of enduring. I'll stop here. Anyways.....end offtopic rant! Resume Beany vs degenerate. |
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| BaMbOo225 | Dec 16 2008, 10:47 AM Post #69 |
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the overall gameplay of halo 1 is not bad... if anything its great halo1 xbox was a good competitive game despite how easy it is to aim even with the controller i agree that leading added one more dimension to halo pc... but the advantage of having lower ping could really be game changing (although i know people who play better w/o 33 ping because its the lead they are most use to) halo pc could have been just as good as halo 1 xbox if it was properly ported the fact that the xbox version was limited due to the controller means that halo 1 could have gone even further competition wise on the pc. i would agree that this pc game isnt a 'good' competitive game (but still is a good game in general). but only because of how much internet connection effects the results of matches then again all competition should be done on lan so that doesnt even matter... so IM GOING TO HAVE TO ACTUALLY DISAGREE |
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| clspart | Dec 16 2008, 10:59 AM Post #70 |
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NOTHING |
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| X£ Nebulous | Dec 16 2008, 12:52 PM Post #71 |
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Riddle me this: When on a LAN do you think Halo's more competitve physically or mentally? (Shooting vs Strategy) Also, great controller or greatest controller? ![]() The Best. |
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| Nike | Dec 16 2008, 01:23 PM Post #72 |
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xfire = sonicandtailsftw Trolling Halo PC since 2006. | |
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| d'Artagnan | Dec 16 2008, 01:37 PM Post #73 |
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ditto Where's Esco? "Sorry for posting, but I felt I need to say..." |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2008, 02:11 PM Post #74 |
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It's the truth.
Mentally, definitely. My reason: At home, you're used to your pc setup, your chair, your monitor, the lights in the room, etc. On LAN you have to adjust to a totally different setup, and that's what seperates good players from the pack. |
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| invert | Dec 16 2008, 02:15 PM Post #75 |
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eat it and believe it
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i guess i can't post my other 'ns' i got with a rocket here because you guys will continue to argue, MY THREAD HAS GONE FAR. i'll make a new one for my 1337 rocket on sw YOU KNOW WAT IM TALKING ABOUT ZULU! |
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