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Topic Started: May 13 2010, 11:04 PM (3,643 Views)
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the only big men the bulls had were tony kukoc and luc longley, that's honestly it lol. other than those 2, steve kerr (kind of), and pippen, there really wasn't much of a team =/

edit: erosion that link you posted is narrated by the guy who narrates the dos equis commercials EPIC WIN LOL
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I wouldn't say that the bulls were stacked... BUT, most teams now have an all-star player, and 2 good players that if they play well, can be a solid playoff team. The bulls had 3 all-star players. I do think Rodman should be in the HoF.

Sorry for the topic change again, but I haven't been able to watch these series'.

edit // and I can't believe you goons are comparing lebron to Jordan. Lebron has no post game. He has a good shot sometimes, but his game relies on driving through people. He doesn't have finesse like Jordan or Kobe, and often times he commits a foul driving through people or turns the ball over. He also isn't clutch in playoff situations, and before someone links a buzzer beater that he got in the regular season, I'm talking about playoffs. Jordan and Kobe come up clutch in playoffs. Lebron gives up (as someone already noted). There's no doubt lebron has the potential to be better than Kobe or even Jordan, but at the moment, he isn't.
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xcutionerz
May 18 2010, 09:32 PM
lol. In reference to "Somedude"'s comment about Kobe being better than Lebron. I disagree, I believe he is already better than Jordan. Jordan didn't play people that were good, not to mention he had a stacked team. Lebron plays point guard shooting guard small forward and center for that team. He would be one of the best point guards in the league if he wanted to be. And his defense certainly surpasses Jordans. If Jordan played guys from now adays. Especially ppl like Lebron. He wouldnt put up those numbers. He would be great. But not better than Lebron. Lebron is the best that ever played the games. He took a team that had not one player that would start on another solid team, to the finals. Jordan had the best rebounder in the game(Rodman) so he had a lot of opportunities as well. People refuse to see it but if they look who jordan played against and lebron plays against they wouild see. People like Iguodala would have been extremely dominant in Jordans time. EXTREMELY dominant.
did this fuckin retard just say Kobe's or Lebron's better then Jordon or am i reading this wrong? Either way, that has to be the stupidest fucking thing i've heard since Con and Gatman were arguing about rock dating back to 227 billion years ago.
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yea i gotta agree with red-i jordan is by far the best basketball player ever and the only person you can even begin to compare against him is kobe (at the present time) and even that is iffy territory...
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May 19 2010, 12:23 PM
yea i gotta agree with red-i jordan is by far the best basketball player ever and the only person you can even begin to compare against him is kobe (at the present time) and even that is iffy territory...
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May 19 2010, 12:26 PM
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May 19 2010, 12:23 PM
yea i gotta agree with red-i jordan is by far the best basketball player ever and the only person you can even begin to compare against him is kobe (at the present time) and even that is iffy territory...
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i'm not saying kobe is the only person in the history of the NBA that is comparable to jordan, you must have read wrong, but at the present time he is. and like mech said lebron has the potential to as well, but he's just not there yet
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Rondo best Guard atm? Yeah?? I gotta say hes been outstanding so far, but is he better than Nash?? I think so..
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May 19 2010, 12:42 PM
Rondo best Guard atm? Yeah?? I gotta say hes been outstanding so far, but is he better than Nash?? I think so..
i don't think rondo's the best but the way he passes is really flashy and impressive, and i like how he facilitates the celtics offense. he'll be up there in a few years, but not right now, that title easily goes to deron williams
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rondo currently is the best pg. are you kidding me con? did you even watch the game? he is pretty much carrying celtics past the magic with his smart play. nash has been in the league much longer and hasnt been making the plays rondo has. and deron williams is sitting at home.

rondo for finals mvp.
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May 19 2010, 02:21 AM
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May 19 2010, 02:20 AM
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May 19 2010, 02:17 AM
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May 18 2010, 06:41 PM
lol.............................................................. I didn't see the 1. Howard, 2.Kobe, 3. Lebron. Man stop embaressing yourself. You are stupid. Lebron is number 1 lmao be serious. Then Kobe then maybe, maybe Howard. Gosh, quit talking. You do not watch basketball. Your probably from Canada or something.
WHAT? LOL You don't put fucking Dwight Howard number 1 overall in the league?


You build a fucking team around the center. I'm from Canada? You clearly know nothing about me and nothing about this game.
by howard being #1 do you mean for a center or...overall? like seriously?
I mean if I was drafting a team and I could pick anyone from the NBA right now, I'd pick Howard 1 overall. There is no other decent center in the league (which really helps make this decision) and he is really dominant.
pau gasol all da way XD

just because the celtics are better than the jazz doesn't mean that rondo is better than deron williams. i've watched all the games of the playoffs, and williams has impressed me more than rondo
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May 19 2010, 12:54 PM
rondo currently is the best pg. are you kidding me con? did you even watch the game? he is pretty much carrying celtics past the magic with his smart play. nash has been in the league much longer and hasnt been making the plays rondo has. and deron williams is sitting at home.

rondo for finals mvp.
agreed

Rondo is carrying the Celtics.. no LIE
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May 19 2010, 01:22 PM
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May 19 2010, 12:54 PM
rondo currently is the best pg. are you kidding me con? did you even watch the game? he is pretty much carrying celtics past the magic with his smart play. nash has been in the league much longer and hasnt been making the plays rondo has. and deron williams is sitting at home.

rondo for finals mvp.
agreed

Rondo is carrying the Celtics.. no LIE
yo i think your sig is fake
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May 19 2010, 01:23 PM
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May 19 2010, 01:22 PM
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May 19 2010, 12:54 PM
rondo currently is the best pg. are you kidding me con? did you even watch the game? he is pretty much carrying celtics past the magic with his smart play. nash has been in the league much longer and hasnt been making the plays rondo has. and deron williams is sitting at home.

rondo for finals mvp.
agreed

Rondo is carrying the Celtics.. no LIE
yo i think your sig is fake
yo i think your sig is fake..


o wait it is

got em =p
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May 18 2010, 06:41 PM
lol.............................................................. I didn't see the 1. Howard, 2.Kobe, 3. Lebron. Man stop embaressing yourself. You are stupid. Lebron is number 1 lmao be serious. Then Kobe then maybe, maybe Howard. Gosh, quit talking. You do not watch basketball. Your probably from Canada or something.
WHAT? LOL You don't put fucking Dwight Howard number 1 overall in the league?


You build a fucking team around the center. I'm from Canada? You clearly know nothing about me and nothing about this game.
by howard being #1 do you mean for a center or...overall? like seriously?
I mean if I was drafting a team and I could pick anyone from the NBA right now, I'd pick Howard 1 overall. There is no other decent center in the league (which really helps make this decision) and he is really dominant.
pau gasol all da way XD

just because the celtics are better than the jazz doesn't mean that rondo is better than deron williams. i've watched all the games of the playoffs, and williams has impressed me more than rondo
your really dumb if you dont think rondo is doing amazing.

JUST SCARED FOR YOUR LAKERS CUZ RONDO IS COMING FOR THEM
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May 18 2010, 06:41 PM
lol.............................................................. I didn't see the 1. Howard, 2.Kobe, 3. Lebron. Man stop embaressing yourself. You are stupid. Lebron is number 1 lmao be serious. Then Kobe then maybe, maybe Howard. Gosh, quit talking. You do not watch basketball. Your probably from Canada or something.
WHAT? LOL You don't put fucking Dwight Howard number 1 overall in the league?


You build a fucking team around the center. I'm from Canada? You clearly know nothing about me and nothing about this game.
by howard being #1 do you mean for a center or...overall? like seriously?
I mean if I was drafting a team and I could pick anyone from the NBA right now, I'd pick Howard 1 overall. There is no other decent center in the league (which really helps make this decision) and he is really dominant.
pau gasol all da way XD

just because the celtics are better than the jazz doesn't mean that rondo is better than deron williams. i've watched all the games of the playoffs, and williams has impressed me more than rondo
your really dumb if you dont think rondo is doing amazing.

JUST SCARED FOR YOUR LAKERS CUZ RONDO IS COMING FOR THEM
yo i think rondo can make a free throw
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May 19 2010, 12:26 PM
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May 19 2010, 12:23 PM
yea i gotta agree with red-i jordan is by far the best basketball player ever and the only person you can even begin to compare against him is kobe (at the present time) and even that is iffy territory...
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jj redick will one day show his true talent!!!
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ha Erosion, so much for your "build on Howard" down 2-0? cmon, tell him to step up, he's got a team. lol. Btw "TheAnimal" I really do enjoy debating with you more than anyone else on this thread. It's entertaining because you don't sit here and bring up dumb stuff like erosion you actually bring out facts and present why u think so and so is better than so and so. Our opinions just differ, I respect your opinion because of the way you present it, i just like to heat things up a bit. I love arguing sports you know, you get into it. But btw i don't think Rondo is the best yet. haha but its coming. At PG that is. not overall guard, Lebron will have that for another 10 years. Um. Maybe this will clarify what i mean. If the Jordan that played when he played, played Lebron, I don't think he would handle it because he hasn't seen what Lebron has seen. Lebron has watched Jordan. and learned from him. and from Kobe. Don't get me wrong. Jordan playing in Lebron's time period, would be better, by all means. Single handedly because of his drive for the game. But I don't think that that Jordan was at the level of Lebron simply because Lebron could learn from him and perfect what Jordan did. You know what im sayin? its hard to explain in text.
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May 19 2010, 02:24 PM
ha Erosion, so much for your "build on Howard" down 2-0? cmon, tell him to step up, he's got a team. lol. Btw "TheAnimal" I really do enjoy debating with you more than anyone else on this thread. It's entertaining because you don't sit here and bring up dumb stuff like erosion you actually bring out facts and present why u think so and so is better than so and so. Our opinions just differ, I respect your opinion because of the way you present it, i just like to heat things up a bit. I love arguing sports you know, you get into it. But btw i don't think Rondo is the best yet. haha but its coming. At PG that is. not overall guard, Lebron will have that for another 10 years. Um. Maybe this will clarify what i mean. If the Jordan that played when he played, played Lebron, I don't think he would handle it because he hasn't seen what Lebron has seen. Lebron has watched Jordan. and learned from him. and from Kobe. Don't get me wrong. Jordan playing in Lebron's time period, would be better, by all means. Single handedly because of his drive for the game. But I don't think that that Jordan was at the level of Lebron simply because Lebron could learn from him and perfect what Jordan did. You know what im sayin? its hard to explain in text.
it's basically hard to explain anything when you are talking out of your ass, even comparing Lebron to Jordon is just ridiculous.
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it's really not. when you refuse to look at it, then yea it is.
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May 19 2010, 02:45 PM
it's really not. when you refuse to look at it, then yea it is.
it's bad enough people compare him to Kobe, people really need to take his nuts out their mouth. To compare him to Jordon which i have never heard anyone do before cause they know better, you are just pissing in the wind.
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xcutionerz
May 19 2010, 02:24 PM
ha Erosion, so much for your "build on Howard" down 2-0? cmon, tell him to step up, he's got a team. lol. Btw "TheAnimal" I really do enjoy debating with you more than anyone else on this thread. It's entertaining because you don't sit here and bring up dumb stuff like erosion you actually bring out facts and present why u think so and so is better than so and so. Our opinions just differ, I respect your opinion because of the way you present it, i just like to heat things up a bit. I love arguing sports you know, you get into it. But btw i don't think Rondo is the best yet. haha but its coming. At PG that is. not overall guard, Lebron will have that for another 10 years. Um. Maybe this will clarify what i mean. If the Jordan that played when he played, played Lebron, I don't think he would handle it because he hasn't seen what Lebron has seen. Lebron has watched Jordan. and learned from him. and from Kobe. Don't get me wrong. Jordan playing in Lebron's time period, would be better, by all means. Single handedly because of his drive for the game. But I don't think that that Jordan was at the level of Lebron simply because Lebron could learn from him and perfect what Jordan did. You know what im sayin? its hard to explain in text.
if lebron played in jordan's era he would have gotten butt raped. and i'm not talking about 96-98; during the late 80's early 90's if u drove to the lane u were going to get hit. if u watch regular season games nowadays the majority of teams and defenses are lazy and let lebron do his thing

also lebron is not a one on one player.. HE IS ONE DIMENSIONAL. u cant be great at iso if the only thing u can do is drive. he cant stop on a dime and pull up; he cant post, i've never seen him utilize moves like a turn around J or a fadeaway. if he gets the ball in the post he does two things. he squares up and does his retarded jab step routine which is embarrassing or he backs u down until he's under the rim.

james has potential to be godlike but as of now he isnt at jordans level or even kobe lol...
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lol. Bamboo. I understand where you are coming from, but at the same time you have to understand. Name one player. Just one! That has the strength and speed in stopping Lebron from driving. There is no one! and I mean no one! in the history of the game! That could stop Lebrons drive. It wouldn't matter if he couldn't shoot(mind you he has a very good shot, but people expect his shot to be as good as kobes or as good as Lebron's driving capabilities, therefore they overlook the fact that his shot is very good. Just not where they want it to be) because no one can stop his drive, at all. Sure some nights he has some bad games, but everyone does.
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May 19 2010, 03:31 PM
lol. Bamboo. I understand where you are coming from, but at the same time you have to understand. Name one player. Just one! That has the strength and speed in stopping Lebron from driving. There is no one! and I mean no one! in the history of the game! That could stop Lebrons drive. It wouldn't matter if he couldn't shoot(mind you he has a very good shot, but people expect his shot to be as good as kobes or as good as Lebron's driving capabilities, therefore they overlook the fact that his shot is very good. Just not where they want it to be) because no one can stop his drive, at all. Sure some nights he has some bad games, but everyone does.
Yeah but Jordon could do that and everything else.
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Jordan wouldn't play like he did, against Lebron. If he started playing against Lebron then yes he would. But that Jordan doesn't know things that Lebron knows. (here comes your oblivious comback, "Yes he could") but it's a waste talking to people that dick ride Jordan cause they say people dick ride Kobe when they refuse to see they are on Jordan's dick. So both sides are wrong, but i'm on no one's side. Jordan was a much better player for his time period than Lebron is for his time period. But Lebron's time period is much harder to be dominant in because in Jordan's time they had never seen anyone totally dominate a game so they didnt no what to do(Chamberlin didnt dominate games in the manner Jordan did, he was just taller than everyone by a good 5 inches or whatever, Jordan could manipulate teams)
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