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May 19 2010, 03:31 PM
lol. Bamboo. I understand where you are coming from, but at the same time you have to understand. Name one player. Just one! That has the strength and speed in stopping Lebron from driving. There is no one! and I mean no one! in the history of the game! That could stop Lebrons drive. It wouldn't matter if he couldn't shoot(mind you he has a very good shot, but people expect his shot to be as good as kobes or as good as Lebron's driving capabilities, therefore they overlook the fact that his shot is very good. Just not where they want it to be) because no one can stop his drive, at all. Sure some nights he has some bad games, but everyone does.
so ur saying purely by size and strength lebron is a better player than jordan? thats stupid. might as well say shaq is the best basketball palyer of all time b/c not only does he take the most efficient fgs but he's fukin 300+ lbs and probably the strongest player out there

jordan had the fundamentals down; he had all the moves. the fact that kids like u think lebron is the best player shows how bad the entire league is.. and how dumb the fans are. he travels all the time; his footwork is terrid; he has zero post moves, no midrange game. yet they call him great. dont u see the problem here?

HE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE GREAT. and dont get me wrong i think he's trying to work on it. his outside shooting has gotten better but it is still inconsistent. if he really works on this shit he can be one of the best of all time.

also to me better offense will always beat better defense. a lot of players, not just lebron and jordan are unguardable one on one; which is why its a team game. teams can stop lebron from getting to the rim
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May 19 2010, 06:18 PM
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May 19 2010, 03:31 PM
lol. Bamboo. I understand where you are coming from, but at the same time you have to understand. Name one player. Just one! That has the strength and speed in stopping Lebron from driving. There is no one! and I mean no one! in the history of the game! That could stop Lebrons drive. It wouldn't matter if he couldn't shoot(mind you he has a very good shot, but people expect his shot to be as good as kobes or as good as Lebron's driving capabilities, therefore they overlook the fact that his shot is very good. Just not where they want it to be) because no one can stop his drive, at all. Sure some nights he has some bad games, but everyone does.
so ur saying purely by size and strength lebron is a better player than jordan? thats stupid. might as well say shaq is the best basketball palyer of all time b/c not only does he take the most efficient fgs but he's fukin 300+ lbs and probably the strongest player out there

jordan had the fundamentals down; he had all the moves. the fact that kids like u think lebron is the best player shows how bad the entire league is.. and how dumb the fans are. he travels all the time; his footwork is terrid; he has zero post moves, no midrange game. yet they call him great. dont u see the problem here?

HE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE GREAT. and dont get me wrong i think he's trying to work on it. his outside shooting has gotten better but it is still inconsistent. if he really works on this shit he can be one of the best of all time.

also to me better offense will always beat better defense. a lot of players, not just lebron and jordan are unguardable one on one; which is why its a team game. teams can stop lebron from getting to the rim
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xcutionerz has to just be fucking with us. he can't honestly say lebron is better than jordan atm. Jordan dick riders, are you serious? Jordan has proved himself. The only thing that lebron has proved is that he chokes. Now if lebron moves to a better team which I'm hoping he does, where he has consistent team mates, then we will see how he does. and I think with a good supporting cast, he will shine, regardless of how ugly his game looks.

edit/ don't get me wrong, I like lebron more than kobe. but you can't say that atm lebron is as good or BETTER than Jordan. that's just ridiculous.
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May 19 2010, 06:55 PM
xcutionerz has to just be fucking with us. he can't honestly say lebron is better than jordan atm. Jordan dick riders, are you serious? Jordan has proved himself. The only thing that lebron has proved is that he chokes. Now if lebron moves to a better team which I'm hoping he does, where he has consistent team mates, then we will see how he does. and I think with a good supporting cast, he will shine, regardless of how ugly his game looks.

edit/ don't get me wrong, I like lebron more than kobe. but you can't say that atm lebron is as good or BETTER than Jordan. that's just ridiculous.
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

now stfu. Agree with you about everything else though.
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May 19 2010, 07:41 PM
mechers
May 19 2010, 06:55 PM
xcutionerz has to just be fucking with us. he can't honestly say lebron is better than jordan atm. Jordan dick riders, are you serious? Jordan has proved himself. The only thing that lebron has proved is that he chokes. Now if lebron moves to a better team which I'm hoping he does, where he has consistent team mates, then we will see how he does. and I think with a good supporting cast, he will shine, regardless of how ugly his game looks.

edit/ don't get me wrong, I like lebron more than kobe. but you can't say that atm lebron is as good or BETTER than Jordan. that's just ridiculous.
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

now stfu. Agree with you about everything else though.
outdated statistics with huge holes in them are a must in any argument. and mech didn't say anything about kobe, he said lebron wasn't anywhere near JORDAN'S level. l2read

plus, statistics don't prove everything about a player. didn't allen iverson average over 30 points during the regular season for a couple years? is he considered anything near the best? hell no lol
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May 19 2010, 07:48 PM
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May 19 2010, 07:41 PM
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May 19 2010, 06:55 PM
xcutionerz has to just be fucking with us. he can't honestly say lebron is better than jordan atm. Jordan dick riders, are you serious? Jordan has proved himself. The only thing that lebron has proved is that he chokes. Now if lebron moves to a better team which I'm hoping he does, where he has consistent team mates, then we will see how he does. and I think with a good supporting cast, he will shine, regardless of how ugly his game looks.

edit/ don't get me wrong, I like lebron more than kobe. but you can't say that atm lebron is as good or BETTER than Jordan. that's just ridiculous.
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

now stfu. Agree with you about everything else though.
outdated statistics with huge holes in them are a must in any argument. and mech didn't say anything about kobe, he said lebron wasn't anywhere near JORDAN'S level. l2read

plus, statistics don't prove everything about a player. didn't allen iverson average over 30 points during the regular season for a couple years? is he considered anything near the best? hell no lol
You are fucking stupid, first off I posted the 09-10 stats as well, how is that outdated? Furthermore, those stats were from kobes "prime" yet lebron still beats him, that obviously has merit. Second, I'm guessing the fat covered your eyes because I was clearly responding to mech stating that lebron "choked" which is why it's bolded and I say I agree with him on everything else except for that. I'm guessing people with a 3.2 gpa and lower don't know how to read.

Edit: "There's holes in the data," yeah and you weigh a hundred pounds, what facts do you have to support that opinion btw? These guys don't have any motive, the website keeps track of random stats.
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Kobe's prime was during and before da olympics.
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May 19 2010, 07:53 PM
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May 19 2010, 07:48 PM
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May 19 2010, 07:41 PM
mechers
May 19 2010, 06:55 PM
xcutionerz has to just be fucking with us. he can't honestly say lebron is better than jordan atm. Jordan dick riders, are you serious? Jordan has proved himself. The only thing that lebron has proved is that he chokes. Now if lebron moves to a better team which I'm hoping he does, where he has consistent team mates, then we will see how he does. and I think with a good supporting cast, he will shine, regardless of how ugly his game looks.

edit/ don't get me wrong, I like lebron more than kobe. but you can't say that atm lebron is as good or BETTER than Jordan. that's just ridiculous.
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

now stfu. Agree with you about everything else though.
outdated statistics with huge holes in them are a must in any argument. and mech didn't say anything about kobe, he said lebron wasn't anywhere near JORDAN'S level. l2read

plus, statistics don't prove everything about a player. didn't allen iverson average over 30 points during the regular season for a couple years? is he considered anything near the best? hell no lol
You are fucking stupid, first off I posted the 09-10 stats as well, how is that outdated? Furthermore, those stats were from kobes "prime" yet lebron still beats him, that obviously has merit. Second, I'm guessing the fat covered your eyes because I was clearly responding to mech stating that lebron "choked" which is why it's bolded and I say I agree with him on everything else except for that. I'm guessing people with a 3.2 gpa and lower don't know how to read.
o i didn't c that :O! goddamn eye fat you got me again. i got a 3.2 GPA because i slacked off in high school, but i got a 2180 on the SAT and a 31 on the ACT shits 2ez my nigga. anyway i'm off to go watch the lakers in the conference finals, i was watching the east finals but i didn't see lebron playing for some reason, he didn't get eliminated again did he? >.>
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May 19 2010, 07:59 PM
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May 19 2010, 07:41 PM
mechers
May 19 2010, 06:55 PM
xcutionerz has to just be fucking with us. he can't honestly say lebron is better than jordan atm. Jordan dick riders, are you serious? Jordan has proved himself. The only thing that lebron has proved is that he chokes. Now if lebron moves to a better team which I'm hoping he does, where he has consistent team mates, then we will see how he does. and I think with a good supporting cast, he will shine, regardless of how ugly his game looks.

edit/ don't get me wrong, I like lebron more than kobe. but you can't say that atm lebron is as good or BETTER than Jordan. that's just ridiculous.
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

now stfu. Agree with you about everything else though.
outdated statistics with huge holes in them are a must in any argument. and mech didn't say anything about kobe, he said lebron wasn't anywhere near JORDAN'S level. l2read

plus, statistics don't prove everything about a player. didn't allen iverson average over 30 points during the regular season for a couple years? is he considered anything near the best? hell no lol
You are fucking stupid, first off I posted the 09-10 stats as well, how is that outdated? Furthermore, those stats were from kobes "prime" yet lebron still beats him, that obviously has merit. Second, I'm guessing the fat covered your eyes because I was clearly responding to mech stating that lebron "choked" which is why it's bolded and I say I agree with him on everything else except for that. I'm guessing people with a 3.2 gpa and lower don't know how to read.
o i didn't c that :O! goddamn eye fat you got me again. i got a 3.2 GPA because i slacked off in high school, but i got a 2180 on the SAT and a 31 on the ACT shits 2ez my nigga. anyway i'm off to go watch the lakers in the conference finals, i was watching the east finals but i didn't see lebron playing for some reason, he didn't get eliminated again did he? >.>
Lol, 31 on the ACT, now I know you're dumb. Also any moron can do good on the SAT, it's middle school math and learning some vocabulary. 3.2 gpa, don't gimme those excuses, what do you have right now? I'm assuming with all the halo you play, it's no higher than a 3.5.
Also, I could say the same shit in 07 when cavs were in finals, good job with the comeback. Kobes more clutch than lebron, oh wait!!!!
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D Wade is my favorite player right now. His game looks so much like Jordans.
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May 19 2010, 08:37 PM
D Wade is my favorite player right now. His game looks so much like Jordans.
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May 19 2010, 08:07 PM
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May 19 2010, 07:59 PM
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May 19 2010, 07:41 PM
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May 19 2010, 06:55 PM
xcutionerz has to just be fucking with us. he can't honestly say lebron is better than jordan atm. Jordan dick riders, are you serious? Jordan has proved himself. The only thing that lebron has proved is that he chokes. Now if lebron moves to a better team which I'm hoping he does, where he has consistent team mates, then we will see how he does. and I think with a good supporting cast, he will shine, regardless of how ugly his game looks.

edit/ don't get me wrong, I like lebron more than kobe. but you can't say that atm lebron is as good or BETTER than Jordan. that's just ridiculous.
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

now stfu. Agree with you about everything else though.
outdated statistics with huge holes in them are a must in any argument. and mech didn't say anything about kobe, he said lebron wasn't anywhere near JORDAN'S level. l2read

plus, statistics don't prove everything about a player. didn't allen iverson average over 30 points during the regular season for a couple years? is he considered anything near the best? hell no lol
You are fucking stupid, first off I posted the 09-10 stats as well, how is that outdated? Furthermore, those stats were from kobes "prime" yet lebron still beats him, that obviously has merit. Second, I'm guessing the fat covered your eyes because I was clearly responding to mech stating that lebron "choked" which is why it's bolded and I say I agree with him on everything else except for that. I'm guessing people with a 3.2 gpa and lower don't know how to read.
o i didn't c that :O! goddamn eye fat you got me again. i got a 3.2 GPA because i slacked off in high school, but i got a 2180 on the SAT and a 31 on the ACT shits 2ez my nigga. anyway i'm off to go watch the lakers in the conference finals, i was watching the east finals but i didn't see lebron playing for some reason, he didn't get eliminated again did he? >.>
Lol, 31 on the ACT, now I know you're dumb. Also any moron can do good on the SAT, it's middle school math and learning some vocabulary. 3.2 gpa, don't gimme those excuses, what do you have right now? I'm assuming with all the halo you play, it's no higher than a 3.5.
Also, I could say the same shit in 07 when cavs were in finals, good job with the comeback. Kobes more clutch than lebron, oh wait!!!!
a 31 on the ACT makes me dumb? it's out of 36 genius, 31 is a really good score. and if any moron can do well on the SAT, wat'd your ridiculously intelligent ass get on it?

edit: it's so petty how you're getting personal making fat jokes. umadubad bro?
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con, you have no idea how smart "TheAnimal" can be. don't bring out the Einstein with in him. he will go all brown on your ass. t
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May 19 2010, 08:43 PM
con, you have no idea how smart "TheAnimal" can be. don't bring out the Einstein with in him. he will go all brown on your ass. t
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lucky, it's sad you get so raged over a basketball debate, NO NEED 2 GET PERSONAL BRAH. sorry you actually tried in high school and still ended up going to a community college =P either way it's not all statistics that make a player, it's their energy, their drive, the fire in their eyes. i just don't think lebron has that, it's a personal opinion, get over it.
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whoever animal is do u realize how retarded u are with this clutch stat thing?

maybe if ur gpa was higher than 3.5 u'd realize u'd need a huge fucking amount of data for this stat to actually mean anything. you would also realize that clutch moments are random and not a single one of them are the same. and even if this did mean something then obviously carmelo is a better clutch player htan both kobe and lebron? oh wait he's not.

also clutch moments dont just come in the last 5 minutes

god ur retarded
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do u think he has anything better to do?

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May 19 2010, 08:47 PM
whoever animal is do u realize how retarded u are with this clutch stat thing?

maybe if ur gpa was higher than 3.5 u'd realize u'd need a huge fucking amount of data for this stat to actually mean anything. you would also realize that clutch moments are random and not a single one of them are the same. and even if this did mean something then obviously carmelo is a better clutch player htan both kobe and lebron? oh wait he's not.

also clutch moments dont just come in the last 5 minutes

god ur retarded
for example, it doesn't specify what kind of shots are taken/who against/where on the court they are taken.
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con, you have no idea how smart "TheAnimal" can be. don't bring out the Einstein with in him. he will go all brown on your ass. t
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lucky, it's sad you get so raged over a basketball debate, NO NEED 2 GET PERSONAL BRAH. sorry you actually tried in high school and still ended up going to a community college =P either way it's not all statistics that make a player, it's their energy, their drive, the fire in their eyes. i just don't think lebron has that, it's a personal opinion, get over it.
heard ur at calpoly. Heard I'm at berkeley. Holl@. 2340 on the SAT, 35 on ACT. umadudumbbro?
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Con I think he's just insecure. Don't let his comments get to you.
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May 19 2010, 08:50 PM
Con I think he's just insecure. Don't let his comments get to you.
thanks mech, what would i do without you :)
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May 19 2010, 08:47 PM
whoever animal is do u realize how retarded u are with this clutch stat thing?

maybe if ur gpa was higher than 3.5 u'd realize u'd need a huge fucking amount of data for this stat to actually mean anything. you would also realize that clutch moments are random and not a single one of them are the same. and even if this did mean something then obviously carmelo is a better clutch player htan both kobe and lebron? oh wait he's not.

also clutch moments dont just come in the last 5 minutes

god ur retarded
looks like you're dumbass has completely ignored the gamewinners link as well, GOOD JOB. Lebron BEAT kobe in gamewinners.
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May 19 2010, 08:51 PM
BaMbOo
May 19 2010, 08:47 PM
whoever animal is do u realize how retarded u are with this clutch stat thing?

maybe if ur gpa was higher than 3.5 u'd realize u'd need a huge fucking amount of data for this stat to actually mean anything. you would also realize that clutch moments are random and not a single one of them are the same. and even if this did mean something then obviously carmelo is a better clutch player htan both kobe and lebron? oh wait he's not.

also clutch moments dont just come in the last 5 minutes

god ur retarded
looks like you're dumbass has completely ignored the gamewinners link as well, GOOD JOB. Lebron BEAT kobe in gamewinners.
did you even read bamboo's post
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